Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Penoff
We do, along with many other social networking sites. It's all part of CIPA, which affects out eligibility for Federal funds. We use hosts files regularly to selectively filter sites that may not be objectionable but are distracting. Dan On May 24, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Fmis

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Exactly. When little Johnny wants to go to Pandora to listen to music instead of study or do research, we need to find a way to prevent him from accessing it. Hosts files are the perfect means of doing this, which is exactly why we use them. Easy to update and change, easy to manage. Dan On M

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: I think apple's decision to ban flash on the ipad/iphone is a good one. It is a pig. Flash was bad when it came out, and has never gotten any better. I generally don't allow flash to load, and quickly leave websites that require flash, unless there is something non-flash th

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-24 Thread Dieselhead
Adobe products are mildly annoying as are some websites who rely on them. Just yesterday T-Mobile sent me an mail saying my bill was ready. I had to download and install a new version of Acrobat Reader just to look at the bill and then I couldn't save it because of the way they created it. Norm

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-24 Thread Dieselhead
I think apple's decision to ban flash on the ipad/iphone is a good one. It is a pig. Flash was bad when it came out, and has never gotten any better. I generally don't allow flash to load, and quickly leave websites that require flash, unless there is something non-flash that is interesting.

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: Uhh. He has them all pointed to 127.0.0.1 - or localhost. In otherwords, a dead end. None of those will ever load anything. I don't think that's what you did in the schools A lot of schools block, or should block, facebook. I know my niece's high school does. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey writes: > Try a different browser for awhile. Those Quad G5's are _fast_! Ah I didn't realize it was a PPC mac. If you like FireFox, you might try the G5 build of tenfourfox then http://www.floodgap.com:80/software/tenfourfox/ Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Jim Cathey
I get this idea that this is not how it should be. I think it is Firefox that is buggering it, as the system monitor shows FF running over 1GB of memory usage as time goes on, and varying CPU usage up to 80-90+% sometimes. If you kill FF and it's back to normal, then what's the confusion? Wha

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick writes: > Ditch Flash player, it eats 95% of CPU time while idle. Yeah I always have Flash (actually all plugins) and Java disabled in my browsers. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to w

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Brian Toscano
I'm surprised all you folk who like to heat your home with your server grade equipment just didn't buy and install Websense. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > > > Tim C writes: > > > > > > > > About the only way I know to handle Facebook is Chrome, so > > > > when it misbehave

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Brian Toscano
Adobe products are mildly annoying as are some websites who rely on them. Just yesterday T-Mobile sent me an mail saying my bill was ready. I had to download and install a new version of Acrobat Reader just to look at the bill and then I couldn't save it because of the way they created it. Norma

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Fmiser
> > > Tim C writes: > > > > > > About the only way I know to handle Facebook is Chrome, so > > > when it misbehaves at least you can close just the one tab. > > On May 23, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > > > > I handle facebook like this: > > > > $ grep facebook /etc/hosts > > 127.0.0.

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Google "flash blocker" -- I use it all the time, but I'm still running 10.4 here (10.5 if I need to, 10.6 on the MacBook). It keeps Flash off unless you tell it to run, saves lots of CPU time. Flash is probably the worst software out there at the moment, almost as bad as ATM. Must be writ

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Interesting you say that. About every week the Flash updater wants to update Flash, which of course means going through some various hoops to get the files, approve the update, typing in codes, then shutting down the browser and restarting it, and various other annoying activities. Not sure h

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Craig
On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:45:46 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Nothing like adding your favorite sites to the hosts file that's a > simple workaround we used to do in the schools... Yes, indeed, but note the IPs he's assigned to them; a request for facebook anything doesn't leave his box. Craig >

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread clay monroe
It is all the crap that makes OSX able to run windows. Unix based OS, unlike winblows. On May 23, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Tim C wrote: > On May 23, 2012 8:30 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: >> >> Tim C writes: >> >>> Blah blah blah Windows. >> >> We're talking about an iMac though. >> > > Which is

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Ditch Flash player, it eats 95% of CPU time while idle. Safari isn't anything to get excited about, either. Peter On May 23, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Firefox is a pig. Any reason you are not just using Safari? Rich Thomas writes: I have this iMac, it has 4GB of memory and

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Dan Penoff
Nothing like adding your favorite sites to the hosts file that's a simple workaround we used to do in the schools... Dan On May 23, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Tim C writes: > >> About the only way I know to handle Facebook is Chrome, so when it >> misbehaves at least you can

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Tim C writes: > About the only way I know to handle Facebook is Chrome, so when it > misbehaves at least you can close just the one tab. I handle facebook like this: $ grep facebook /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 facebook.com 127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net 127.0.0.1 faceboo

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Tim C
On May 23, 2012 8:30 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > > Tim C writes: > > > Blah blah blah Windows. > > We're talking about an iMac though. > Which is why I thought it was funny that Clay was giving the Windows 98 lines about regular rebooting and how you have to clean up things after you've been usi

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Brian Toscano writes: > If that was the case they would always display pages the same, which they > don't. Well, WebKit itself is a moving target, and it's probably the case that at any given time, the current Chrome and Safari are often built on slightly different versions of WebKit. Allan --

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Tim C
On May 23, 2012 3:47 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > If I close FF (and usually I have to do a force quit) and restart it, reload my session, it seems to be fine for awhile. Facebook seems to be the app/page that hangs most, or maybe is causing the problem. Facebook has a lot of Javascript and other

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Tim C writes: > Blah blah blah Windows. We're talking about an iMac though. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Brian Toscano
Agreed. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Tim C wrote: > On May 23, 2012 5:58 PM, "clay monroe" wrote: > > > > As time goes on, the processes build up and become more sticky. Might be > good to reboot every month or so. Also good to do some system clean up of > preferences and things with disk

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Tim C
On May 23, 2012 5:58 PM, "clay monroe" wrote: > > As time goes on, the processes build up and become more sticky. Might be good to reboot every month or so. Also good to do some system clean up of preferences and things with disk tools Blah blah blah Windows. Linux FTW! :) -Tim __

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Brian Toscano
If that was the case they would always display pages the same, which they don't. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Brian Toscano writes: > > > I never use Firefox - I use Safari and if I run into problems I use > Google > > Chrome. > > Safari and Chrome are just a differe

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Brian Toscano writes: > I never use Firefox - I use Safari and if I run into problems I use Google > Chrome. Safari and Chrome are just a different UI over WebKit. I would be surprised if there was a significant difference in processor/resouce utilization. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread clay monroe
FB could be hogging system resources under FF. How many additional do-dads have you got FF running? The more plug ins, the more it will hog. There are also bound to be things FB is hooking into and not letting go of when you log out. As time goes on, the processes build up and become more st

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Brian Toscano
I never use Firefox - I use Safari and if I run into problems I use Google Chrome. Apple's own Preview app is usually what bogs my system down. When I hear the fans speed up, I usually need to restart Preview. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Dave Cavner wrote: > Type 'top -u' (no quotes) i

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Dave Cavner
Type 'top -u' (no quotes) in Terminal to view the processor hog(s). If you want to keep FF, keep add-ons to a bare minimum. Ditto the number of open tabs. Restarting the browser often/daily will keep the memory leaks in check. FFs ad blockers are fabulous when they work but make some sites appe

Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Allan Streib
Firefox is a pig. Any reason you are not just using Safari? Rich Thomas writes: > I have this iMac, it has 4GB of memory and 4 CPUs and 1 TB drive (half > empty) with a 2TB connected for backups. The thing runs bog slow > sometimes with the spinning wheel, with Thunderbird, Firefox, maybe a >

[MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks

2012-05-23 Thread Rich Thomas
I have this iMac, it has 4GB of memory and 4 CPUs and 1 TB drive (half empty) with a 2TB connected for backups. The thing runs bog slow sometimes with the spinning wheel, with Thunderbird, Firefox, maybe a Preview doc or two, iTunes, and maybe an iChat and something else running (and Finder, w