Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

2020-12-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Vintage Usenet thing, I’m showing my age. Amazingly true, however. -D > On Dec 21, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Somehow I'd managed to never hear of it but it's a pretty good rule. > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law >

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2020-12-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Somehow I'd managed to never hear of it but it's a pretty good rule. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: End of thread - Godwin’s Law. -D > On Dec 21, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Andre

Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

2020-12-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
End of thread - Godwin’s Law. -D > On Dec 21, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Barbaric is a better word. Are you comparing Gov. Baker to the Nazis? > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:39 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On 2020-12-2

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2020-12-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Barbaric is a better word. Are you comparing Gov. Baker to the Nazis? On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:39 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2020-12-21 10:23, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > > > He has encouraged people to rat out their neighbors though which has > >

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2020-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-21 10:23, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: He has encouraged people to rat out their neighbors though which has shades of WWII Germany that I'm not excited about. Is it too political to point out that Annelies (Anne) Frank would not have lasted a week if 1940s Dutch behaved like 20

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2020-12-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The governor is a "Republican", we all "MA Republican" anyway. He's said he can't legally force people to stay home and he can't force people not to gather in private homes, so he at least has some respect for the limits of law. He has encouraged people to rat out their neighbors though which ha

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2020-12-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
You live in MA, right?  Will never happen... --FT On 12/21/20 10:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: My governor wants to close gyms even though he admits that the bulk of new COVID cases are from holiday parties at private homes. I wrote him an email suggesting he fix his rectal/cranial

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2020-12-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Those kind of vision experiences are why I've started dialing back my blood pressure medication. If I jumped out of bed to go to the bathroom I needed to know where the wall was so I could catch myself. Now only taking the pill 4 days a week those symptoms have gone from 50% of the time to abou

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2020-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-19 15:57, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Thanks for these numbers and explanation. I got one of those finger things back when COVID started. I notice about 95% resting (watching TV) but 95-97% if more active. Seemed counterintuitive but this explains it Yes, Karl, thanks for

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2020-12-19 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Karl Wittnebel Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun The better sensors have a little waveform graph. It has to have a smooth sinusoidal pattern to get a good reading. In hospital, we say everything over 92% is fine. Around 90

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2020-12-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The better sensors have a little waveform graph. It has to have a smooth sinusoidal pattern to get a good reading. In hospital, we say everything over 92% is fine. Around 90% and lower, there is a sigmoidal relationship between the hemoglobin saturation and the partial pressure of oxygen. This hel

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2020-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-19 12:01, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Yes normally humans with healthy lungs walk around at 97% or better. Anything under 92% is dodgy. Mine is usually 94-97, often reading 95. My dad (COPD) was usually 97-99. (same numbers whether using his fingertip gizmo or mine) Anything

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2020-12-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Karl, with blood type A negative how much more likely am I to: 1) contract COV 19, and 2) if so, become seriously ill? The medical literature is a little choppy on this subject. On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:02 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes normally humans w

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2020-12-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yes normally humans with healthy lungs walk around at 97% or better. Anything under 92% is dodgy. It is usually measured with little red light things you put on your finger or ear lobe; you can buy little battery powered versions on Amazon for ~$20. When otherwise healthy people get hypoxic like t

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2020-12-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The scary part is that some of you could have been superspreaders and not known it, leading to unknown numbers of fatalities. Theoretically of course. Only contact tracing could have determined this with any certainty. On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:31 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebe

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2020-12-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I suspect I could have had it in February.  I was actually out in California at the time and most of that week I felt like crap.  I never had a cough but felt like I had a fever and was somewhat strange and out of the blue. On 12/18/2020 10:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Mitch Haley

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2020-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-19 07:25, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: We were both convinced we had it in February, as we had sore throats, flu-like symptoms, etc. I did an antibody test in August or September and it was negative, so I’m guessing that means I didn’t have it. Or your body managed it with T-Cells

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2020-12-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
* desaturating 1. *The act, or the result of the act, of making something less completely saturated; more specifically, the percentage of total binding sites remaining unfilled; for example, when hemoglobin is 70% saturated with oxygen and nothing else, its desaturation is 30%. Thanks chicoms! A

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2020-12-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We were both convinced we had it in February, as we had sore throats, flu-like symptoms, etc. I did an antibody test in August or September and it was negative, so I’m guessing that means I didn’t have it. -D > On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mitch Haley

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2020-12-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > This was back in May, when standard treatment was 'go ahead and feel > like crap until it runs its course, and call an ambulance if you're > dying' I think that's still the treatment. Two of my boys had it, one brought it home from school at Thanksgiving brea

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2020-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
What treatment did they have, especially early on? My sister had zero treatment. For at least three weeks she was so sick that it was a major task just to go to the front door for a bag of groceries and drag it to the refrigerator 20' away. (bedroom to front door is more than 20') This was back

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2020-12-18 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
I am not paying that close of attention to the circus. White folks so far, as the natives are not online for shots yet. The ANC retirement home will be getting injected this day. No report on how it impacts a gerontologic group. Clay inter urinas et faeces nascimur > On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:

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2020-12-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Clay Monroe via Mercedes writes: > AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation. Is that among indigineous people or non-natives? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

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2020-12-18 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Well, there is always the covid option. My sister was desaturating while trying to walk her dog on level ground. She is a distance swimmer normally. Other people I know who have had it were avid runners before, and still cannot run two months later. People in their 40s and 50s. But yeah, the vaccin

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2020-12-18 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation. Not the astronomically comic 1 in a million the legacy media and Kool-Aid Corps tout. And this was in young and healthy population of medical workers. Not a million mile Benz, more akin to a soap box racer Clay inter urinas et faec

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2020-12-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's pretty funny Andrew, good one! - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 11:56 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For every nurse that collapses there are at least 5 who don't. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

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2020-12-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
For every nurse that collapses there are at least 5 who don't. On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 11:38 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2020-12-18 11:35, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > I had to sit for 15min after each injection before they would let me > > leave. th

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2020-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-18 11:35, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I had to sit for 15min after each injection before they would let me leave.  there is some small chance of anaphylaxis or other rxn with it among some people so they watch the injectee after. i think this goes with any vaccine. Same with my

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2020-12-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I had to sit for 15min after each injection before they would let me leave.  there is some small chance of anaphylaxis or other rxn with it among some people so they watch the injectee after. i think this goes with any vaccine. All I know is I want to get it ASAP (if I have not already had it

[MBZ] OT Vax fun

2020-12-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Nurse Collapses on Live Television shortly after receiving COVID-19 VACCINE https://youtu.be/Wrp4w0OQmAQ How long until the tech overlords ban this one? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com