[MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread

2007-12-03 Thread Euan
Hi folks Down here in the Colonies, Mobil 1 synthetic oil is available (in exchange for body parts) but in a desperately poor range of options. So, I'm obliged to fall back on the MB specs data on the rear panels for guidance. Should I be looking for oil meeting *229.1* or *229.3* criteria? I

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2007-12-04 Thread OK Don
>From the master in 2005 --- "Mercedes suggested first 228.x and then 229.x series oils in passenger car diesel engines thru the '90s. For older light duty diesel engines 228.x oils were required and recommended (Delvac 1 and Mobil 1 5W-40 is 228.5 rated oil - the very highest rating for HEAVY D

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2007-12-04 Thread Timothy Robinson
s Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread > >> From the master in 2005 --- > > "Mercedes suggested first 228.x and then 229.x series oils in passenger > car diesel engines thru the '90s. For older light duty diesel en

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2007-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Timothy Robinson wrote: > > Mobil 1 with SuperSynTM 0W-30 Any remarks? All the cars in your sig have OM617 engines. If you want to use oil that much thinner than MBZ recommended, water is even thinner and much cheaper, although water's pourability at low temperatures is not as good as Mobil

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2007-12-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
recommendations. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 12/4/07 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread Timothy Robinson wrote: > > Mobil 1 with SuperSynTM

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2007-12-04 Thread Timothy Robinson
: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread > > > > Timothy Robinson wrote: >> >> Mobil 1 with SuperSynTM 0W-30 Any remarks? > > All the cars in your sig have OM617 engines. If you want to use oil that > much thinner than MBZ recommended, wate

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2007-12-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
y Robinson Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread Thanks, Mitch... What weight then is best on the Mobil 1 with SuperSynTM for the OM617 year round? 5W40 then? > From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL P

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2007-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond
ere REALLY cold, like where its -20 in the daytime I'd probably use 0w40 but since I don't I'll stick with 5w40 year round. -Curt Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:38:29 -0500 From: Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread To:

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2007-12-04 Thread Timothy Robinson
teful to you. AVERAGE YEAR ROUND, what weight of the Mobile 1 Thanks! Tim > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:27:08 -0600 > To: "'Mitch Haley'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

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2007-12-04 Thread John Robbins
Timothy Robinson wrote: > AVERAGE YEAR ROUND, what weight of the Mobile 1 5w-40 Turbo Diesel Truck (if you can find it). This is what I use, year round. 15w50 is the next best. 0w40 is really only remotely called for if you live in Canada or some other really cold climate. John ___

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2007-12-04 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread Timothy Robinson wrote: > AVERAGE YEAR ROUND, what weight of

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2007-12-04 Thread pm7088
Behalf Of John Robbins > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:10 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread > > Timothy Robinson wrote: > > AVERAGE YEAR ROUND, what weight of the Mobile 1 > > 5w-40 Turbo Diesel T

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2007-12-04 Thread John Robbins
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: > IIRC Marshall used to say that 15-50 would flow as well as 5-40 except in > the most extreme cold climates. Therefore I use 15w-50 year round here in > NE. The reason I suggested 5w40 over 15w50 is that the 5w40 is the same thing as Mobil Delvac 1 John

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2007-12-04 Thread Timothy Robinson
5 300D 225K (das Boot) 1985 300D 324K (das Rauschgift-Auto) > From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:06:55 -0800 (PST) > To: Diesel List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread > >

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2007-12-04 Thread Timothy Robinson
oops... I mean, then it's 5W40? > From: Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:02:15 -0500 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread > > I'm

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2007-12-04 Thread John Robbins
;> Task for the day was to read these oil threads, check out Mobile 1 and try >> to learn what weight would be best to run in the cars. Before I buy eight >> cases of oil at AutoBarn (10% off and free shipping), according to "das >> Buch" it's 10W40??? >> >

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2007-12-04 Thread LarryT
, December 04, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread > Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: >> IIRC Marshall used to say that 15-50 would flow as well as 5-40 except in >> the most extreme cold climates. Therefore I use 15w-50 year round here in >> NE. &g

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2007-12-04 Thread LarryT
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread > Thanks, Tom... > > See, I'm quite a novice here and I'll admit. Oh, I'm good enough with >

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2007-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: > > The reason I suggested 5w40 over 15w50 is that the 5w40 is the same > thing as Mobil Delvac 1 ..and probably has enough TBN to go 25,000 miles on higher sulphur fuel. Diesel truck oil is overkill, but then again, some people would say synthetic oil is overkill. If you

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2007-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Timothy Robinson wrote: > > Task for the day was to read these oil threads, check out Mobile 1 and try > to learn what weight would be best to run in the cars. Before I buy eight > cases of oil at AutoBarn (10% off and free shipping), according to "das > Buch" it's 10W40??? I don't have a 617 boo

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2007-12-04 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote: > If you are going to pay $4 a quart, may as well get the best, and > that's 5W40 diesel oil. Where are you getting it for $4 a quart? Walmart doesn't sell the 5w40 around me... I have to get it from Autozone at $6 a quart. Might be worth driving 30 miles to the next town's

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2007-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: > > > Where are you getting it for $4 a quart? Walmart doesn't sell the 5w40 > around me... I have to get it from Autozone at $6 a quart. The Walmart near me sells a gallon for a bit over $20, so not much difference. When 5qts of 15W50 is also a bit over $20, I buy that ins

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2007-12-04 Thread Allan Streib
As I recall, even before ULSD, M1 oil would generally reach the soot limit before anything else was depleted, assuming a good engine. Allan On Dec 4, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > I wonder how long it would take to deplete the buffering agents > in 15W50 with an OM617 running ULSD fue

Re: [MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread [APOLOGIES]

2007-12-04 Thread Euan
Yeah, sorry, Bob. My fault. I guess it *was* a little insensitive. I didn't intend it to be an oil thread (see my original posting) - just a quick smash-and-grab for clarification. Euan Christchurch NZ > It's kinda creepy having an oil thread so soon after Marshall's passing. > It's kinda like