And parts made from unobtanium
G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
"Common Sense 101" is not on any college curriculum that I've ever seen.
However, it is on every successful business curriculum that lasts more than
a generation.
Some of the applicants I have seen in business surely have their "Darwin
"Common Sense 101" is not on any college curriculum that I've ever seen.
However, it is on every successful business curriculum that lasts more than
a generation.
Some of the applicants I have seen in business surely have their "Darwin
Award Application PhD" with a minor in "Transgender underwater
> > > Dan wrote:
> > >
> > > Former next door neighbor is an engineer, does “forensic
> > > commercial HVAC” work for an insurer, whatever that is.
> >
> > > That’s the difference between an engineer and someone with
> > > practical experience.
> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > There are desk engineers
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:15:39 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
wrote:
> > Former next door neighbor is an engineer, does “forensic
> > commercial HVAC” work for an insurer, whatever that is.
>
> > That’s the difference between an engineer and someone with
> > practical experience.
>
> There are desk en
Better to find kids with common sense, then teach the ones with aptitude
engineering simulation.
A dufus I knew in kolledge gragitated, and went to work for Boeing. He
could not find his ass with one hand and a mirror in the other. Not one
shred of common sense.
However a friend of mine w
Very true. And this guy is good with his hands and pretty competent in that
regards. However, sometimes critical thinking and thinking “outside the box”
can go a long way compared to book learning….
-D
> On Apr 23, 2018, at 5:15 PM, fmiser via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> Dan--- wrote:
>
>> For
> Dan--- wrote:
> Former next door neighbor is an engineer, does “forensic
> commercial HVAC” work for an insurer, whatever that is.
> That’s the difference between an engineer and someone with
> practical experience.
There are desk engineers (good at reading plans, calculating from
the data the
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:51:40 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
wrote:
> Craig wrote:
> > ... from Denver to Calhan, Colorado...
>
> Did you ever drive Elbert Rd in your Denver-Calhan trips? It seems
> that was the road? It was delightful to drive instead of I-25.
Yes, we drove CO-83 and Elbert
Craig wrote:
> ... from Denver to Calhan, Colorado...
Did you ever drive Elbert Rd in your Denver-Calhan trips? It seems
that was the road? It was delightful to drive instead of I-25. Of
course, we were much further south from you in Drennan, just east of
Ellicott Hwy.
tin.man
Former next door neighbor is an engineer, does “forensic commercial HVAC” work
for an insurer, whatever that is.
Wandered over one day to hear him fussing over a weed wacker he had
disassembled. He’s trying to thread the flat spring for the recoil starter
back into the cup that contains it. H
>> Educated Engineering Students did that?
> Educated engineer != common sense.
True dat. Same variety of practical don't-kill-yourself abilities in
engineering school as anyplace else.
Only would have taken _one_ person on that trip to have any experience
properly loading trailers, or else
boats
> > Curley wrote:
> >
> > ISU solar car team did that about 10 years ago on I35
> > somewhere around KC. Smashed the big Dog van, the trailer,
> > the solar car, and a few kids.
> Mitch wrote:
>
> Educated Engineering Students did that?
Educated engineer != common sense.
My observation of that incident is, it clearly demonstrates the disconnect
between "education" and "practical application".
"Education" of today give a false sense of "knowledge equals result", while
"Practical Application" frequently kicks "Educations" ass, via the
application of real world resul
yep Enginerroring Well, to be fair, there is no requirement to be on
the team. Generally, most of them are in the kolledge of
enginerroring. (more properly called, College of computer simulation)
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
On April 22, 2018 at 10:59 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
> On April 22, 2018 at 10:59 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> ISU solar car team did that about 10 years ago on I35 somewhere around
> KC. Smashed the big Dog van, the trailer, the solar car, and a few
> kids.
Educated Engineering Students did that?
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Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
It also takes the stupidity to accelerate instead of slowing when the shimmy
starts, doesn't it?
YUP!
Or does it sometimes just hit you hard and fast without prior warning?
Depends on the level of stupidity. Light tow/heavy load with no tongue
weight could
ISU solar car team did that about 10 years ago on I35 somewhere around
KC. Smashed the big Dog van, the trailer, the solar car, and a few
kids. Not a happy day. The disaster in moving sez to keep their
trailers at 45 MPH or lass.
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Just got home with t
Keep lots of weight on the tongue. There is no truck too big for a
load, but there are lots of "trucks" too small for a load.
Glad you were out of the way.
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Just got home with the 190d. Earlier as I was coming out of Springfield Mo the
speed goes from 60
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 09:09:32 -0500 tyee165 via Mercedes
wrote:
> Back in 1982, my father was still alive and still had the sawmill. We
> bought a new house in the fall of 1981 and wanted to fence the yard
> that next spring. Dad gave us a load of 4x4s and some were 16 footers.
> I borrowed a util
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody crapped their pants on
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> On April 21, 2018 at 9:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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> On April 21, 2018 at 9:56 PM Curt Raymond via Merce
> On April 21, 2018 at 9:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> I learned this the first time I towed a snowmobile trailer, I didn't have
> enough tongue weight and it wanted to wag something fierce above about 45mph.
> Pulled over and shifted the machines forward and all was well. F
I learned this the first time I towed a snowmobile trailer, I didn't have
enough tongue weight and it wanted to wag something fierce above about 45mph.
Pulled over and shifted the machines forward and all was well. Fortunately I
didn't try to go any faster...
-Curt
On Saturday, April 21,
Exactly. The wind load of a passing vehicle "could be" enough to start the
oscillation, which is rapidly magnified by the amount of unbalance from the
center of the trailers moment arm.
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Yes the point of
Yes the point of no turning back probably varies with the relative weights
of tow vehicle, trailed load, trailer length yada yada. You arent going to
necessarily know where the point is or that you are approaching it when you
swerve for the pothole. Providing some buffer is what all the trailer
loa
Trailer brakes firmly applied at onset of oscillation "can" dampen them
enough to make an immediate stop and save further damage. in some
instances.
As this excellent video shows, the amplitude of the initial oscillation
strongly impacts both the frequency and amplitude of the out of balance a
Nice video.
I'm bookmarking it.
It appears that a large disturbance gains rapidly in amplitude, but a smaller
(but still pretty serious) one still self-damps at the test speed shown.
I'm still thinking that if it starts from going too fast in a straight line you
should usually be able to stop
It is in unstable equilibrium. Unloading the tongue creates a positive
feedback loop so any perturbation is amplified. Not always anything to be
done about these once they begin.
https://youtu.be/4jk9H5AB4lM
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018, 4:44 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wro
If the dude would have simply let off the gas and slowed down a little he would
have got it under control. He seemed to have just continued to try and gain
speed all the while it started fish tailing worse.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 21, 2018, at 6:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
It also takes the stupidity to accelerate instead of slowing when the shimmy
starts, doesn't it?
Or does it sometimes just hit you hard and fast without prior warning?
Mitch.
> On April 21, 2018 at 7:29 PM G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> Loading the car with engine aft of the trailer axle
Yep
On 4/21/2018 6:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
Loading the car with engine aft of the trailer axles [or axle] set it all
in motion even before the guy pulled on to the highway.
Tongue weight and center of gravity is critical to successful trailer work.
Hope the guy survived and hope no
Loading the car with engine aft of the trailer axles [or axle] set it all
in motion even before the guy pulled on to the highway.
Tongue weight and center of gravity is critical to successful trailer work.
Hope the guy survived and hope no one else was injured. All it takes is a
simple violation
Glad your timing was right!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
On April 21, 2018 4:21:07 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:
>Just got home with the 190d.
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I did that in a Ford Escort wagon and a trailer with a load of bricks. Didn’t
have the bricks properly loaded over the trailer’s axle and when I got up to
speed on the interstate the trailer started to fishtail, broke loose and spun
me around in a complete 360, ending up on the left side of the
Just got home with the 190d. Earlier as I was coming out of Springfield Mo the
speed goes from 60 up to 70. Right at the 70 zone I start getting up to speed
to pass a truck pulling a car in the right lane. I am in the left lane. I think
he may have had the car on a car dolly but it might have be
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