Woodlandtaylors wrote:
Yes,
All the non-turbo's I have start in second, as does my 1989 300CE as does my
1987 420SEL. The turbo's 300 CD, D & SD I have all start in first gear and
they have to climb out of the driveway when cold, when hot (normal operating
temperature) climbing the drive in seco
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> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:56:45 -0500, you wrote:
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> Now after all the bandwidth that has been spent on this issue
> the last few days, I've started to get confused as to how my
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:56:45 -0500, you wrote:
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Now after all the bandwidth that has been spent on this issue the last
few days, I've started to get confused as to how my car was starting.
So, this morning I paid particular attention.
I started the engine.
Backed out of the driveway.
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> US model diesels start in first, gas models start out in 2nd. Only
> exception is my 85 380SL. All of the man
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US model diesels start in first, gas models start out in 2nd. Only
exception is my 85 380SL. All of the many gas W126 models I have owned
start o
Marshall wrote:
"In the early '90s Mercedes saw the error
of their ways and allowed the gas transmissions to start in 1st. Cars
built a year or two before 1st gear starts became standard COULD be
converted (it was NOT a cheap conversion - required that the valve body
be removed and some
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 10:38 PM, OK Don wrote:
All of my 201s start in 1st (at least the way I drive them).
Marshall
Come to think of it my 84 2.2 started in 1st every time. The PO had
the trans rebuilt and it worked great. People could be installing shift
kits that force a 1st g
Marshall Booth wrote:
John Berryman wrote:
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 02:18 PM, Dave M. wrote:
and I would have SWORN that all 124
diesels started in first. Kaleb? Don? Sunil? What's the deal?
The Euro 124 w/2.5 diesel, owner's manual that I have mentions the
2nd gear start and I hav
So the breaking point is either pre/post '90, euro/US, or both.
On 1/24/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 09:54 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
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> > All of my 201s start in 1st (at least the way I drive them).
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> > Marshall
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> My "new" 86 19
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 09:54 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
All of my 201s start in 1st (at least the way I drive them).
Marshall
My "new" 86 190D 2.5 Euro definitely starts in 2nd unless I put my
foot into it a little further.
I'll give it to you verbatim from the 124 Euro manual
John Berryman wrote:
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 02:18 PM, Dave M. wrote:
and I would have SWORN that all 124
diesels started in first. Kaleb? Don? Sunil? What's the deal?
The Euro 124 w/2.5 diesel, owner's manual that I have mentions the
2nd gear start and I have driven US versions,
I just read my owners manual for the '90 300D 2.5, US. There is no
mention of starting in second. It does have a bold warning that
states:
"It is dangerous to shift the selector lever out of "P" od "N" is the
engine speed is higher than idle speed. If your foot is not on the
brake pedal, the car
orrectly, I'll post an apology.
Werner
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Werner Fehlaue
no
John Berryman wrote:
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 07:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
every 124 diesel I have ever owned or driven has started in 1st
Do you always floor them on take-off?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 07:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
every 124 diesel I have ever owned or driven has started in 1st
Do you always floor them on take-off?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 02:18 PM, Dave M. wrote:
and I would have SWORN that all 124
diesels started in first. Kaleb? Don? Sunil? What's the deal?
The Euro 124 w/2.5 diesel, owner's manual that I have mentions the
2nd gear start and I have driven US versions, they all started in
every 124 diesel I have ever owned or driven has started in 1st
Dave M. wrote:
Different years & models have the 2nd gear start. My 1986 and 1990
300E's both started in second gear, and I believe all years did. My
1987 300D starts in first gear, and I would have SWORN that all 124
diesels start
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
> Yes, but the '90 124 2.5 Diesel starts in 2nd, unless you "floor" it.
> Werner
When properly adjusted, most turbo diesels SHOULD sit in second and drop =
into 1st as soon as you push on the accelerator (unless you are pointed =
down hill and BARELY touch the pedal). A fe
Donald Snook wrote:
From what I understand, the gasser 126's start in 2nd gear and this is
why they are little slow off the line. A few questions? Why did
Mercedes do this? If it starts in 2nd then does it ever go into 1st?
Is there a way to change this? Is there a reason not too?
It was
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Different years & models have the 2nd gear start. My 1986 and 1
ying practice.
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> OK, but the question specific was to a US model W126 gas model. I know
> nuttin' about W124'
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 01:37:43PM -0500, Werner Fehlauer wrote:
> Yes, but the '90 124 2.5 Diesel starts in 2nd, unless you "floor" it.
I didn't think it was supposed to. Granted, that is a 722.4 and not a 722.3,
but the 87 300D and TD I have both start from first.
K
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> > US model diesels start in first
Yes, but the '90 124 2.5 Diesel starts in 2nd, unless you "floor" it.
Werner
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US model diesels start in first, gas models start out in 2nd. Only
exception is my 85 380SL. All of the many gas W126 models I have owned
start out in 2nd and the W126 diesels started out in 1st.
For further clarification, check your specific owners manual.
On 1/24/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTE
On Tuesday, January 24, 2006, at 10:26 AM, Donald Snook wrote:
From what I understand, the gasser 126's start in 2nd gear and this is
why they are little slow off the line.
I don't believe this to be the case for that particular model.
A few questions? Why did
Mercedes do this?
From what I understand, the gasser 126's start in 2nd gear and this is
why they are little slow off the line. A few questions? Why did
Mercedes do this? If it starts in 2nd then does it ever go into 1st?
Is there a way to change this? Is there a reason not too?
It may have been emissions rela
>From what I understand, the gasser 126's start in 2nd gear and this is
why they are little slow off the line. A few questions? Why did
Mercedes do this? If it starts in 2nd then does it ever go into 1st?
Is there a way to change this? Is there a reason not too?
Donald H. Snook
McDonald,
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