off to the left...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:21:21 -0500
From: Rolf
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
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Yes, there is some wierd ness with the w
I always thought my '85 190D 5spd felt a little weird compared to my '83 240D
4spd, 1st is way off to the left...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:21:21 -0500
From: Rolf
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
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I take it all back. There are some issues, I def need the larger
flexdisks from the 300D on the front. The carrier bushing needs to be
replaced. The gearing needs to be shortened up, 2.88 might be ok 3.07
would be a hoot. 65mph is 1850 rpm. 70mph is 2000. Once the turbo kicks
in it really winds
l transmission. EPC knows all (but I've
>> no time to research today).
>>
>> -Max
>>
>>
>>
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
>> Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 7:56 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion
010 11:56 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
the 123 now, big heavy lots of torque. I was also dickering around with
the clutch pedal (sits really high seems that there is no adjustment,
today).
-Max
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 7:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
If I sounded rude, I am sorry. I very much appreciate your input. I am
just frustrated with the lack of any adjustment
behalf of Rolf
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 7:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
If I sounded rude, I am sorry. I very much appreciate your input. I am
just frustrated with the lack of any adjustment!
-Rolf
On 11/11/2010 7:31 PM, Rolf wrote:
> With
: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
the 123 now, big heavy lots of torque. I was also dickering around with
the clutch pedal (sits really high seems that there is no adjustment,
also engages r
ion.
-Max
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
Sent: Wed 11/10/2010 11:56 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
the 123 now, big hea
on.
-Max
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
Sent: Wed 11/10/2010 11:56 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
the 123 now, big heavy lots of torque. I was also dicker
I've been buying from Rusty since this group was headquartered in Canada,
and I can assure you that Rustys people make mistakes. It would be
unbelievable if they didn't considering the number of items they deal with.
Gerry
--
I find that hard to believe, 99% s
manny tranny shifted mighty fine.
Wilton
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
I've never been able to find a
I find that hard to believe, 99% sure I ordered mine from him last time.
On a side note, my new setup is using teflon/pvc bushings or the like
-Rolf
On 11/11/2010 02:07 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
Someone at Rustys told me they didn't. Anyway, 20 years isn't long
enough for this list. 20 yea
Someone at Rustys told me they didn't. Anyway, 20 years isn't long enough
for this list. 20 years from now I don't want to have to take it apart and
put in a new bushing.
GerryAge 81
From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>
Rusty ha
Rusty has the plastic bushings. they generally last 15-20 years.
My wife complained about the '83 240D shifting poorly. The problem
turned out to be the shifter mechanism which had a plastic "spacer"
that was very worn. I tried to buy a used mechanism or repair
parts, both without success;
My wife complained about the '83 240D shifting poorly. The problem turned
out to be the shifter mechanism which had a plastic "spacer" that was very
worn. I tried to buy a used mechanism or repair parts, both without
success; so I redesigned the mechanism using two springs, a cross bar, and a
AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
There are a couple of threads out there that cover this swap pretty
well, I don't know that I can add much to it. Other than be prepared to
have lots of energy and redo everything atleast 2x. :D AND USE LOCTITE
ON
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:03:54 -0500 "WILTON" wrote:
> I thought my 80 240D manny tranny shifted mighty fine.
>
> Wilton
As does our '82 240D/3.0.
Craig
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I thought my 80 240D manny tranny shifted mighty fine.
Wilton
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From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
I&#x
Exactly - the 240D had a very nice shifter (after replacing the nylon
bushings).
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've never been able to find a 123 or 124 manual trans when I had jingies
> to spend, but the older MBs with real transmissions shifted very
I've never been able to find a 123 or 124 manual trans when I had
jingies to spend, but the older MBs with real transmissions shifted
very nicely, and those are all getrags
I can't imagine that the 123/124 shifts that badly.
That's surprising, as the one in the '84 190D is very nice. Sounds m
That's surprising, as the one in the '84 190D is very nice. Sounds more like
an old VW or Porsche shifter!
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> Alex Chamberlain writes:
>
> > The car magazines of the time weren't happy with the ergonomics of the
> > stick-shift 300E either. I
Alex Chamberlain writes:
> The car magazines of the time weren't happy with the ergonomics of the
> stick-shift 300E either. IIRC the shifter was described as "numb" and
> "rubbery"
The description I've heard of the shifter is "broomstick in a bucket of
rocks"
Allan
--
1983 300D
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Rolf wrote:
> the shifter REALLY takes some getting used to. Because the
> sweet spot was so high I was paying more attention to clutch slippage than
> anything else...
The car magazines of the time weren't happy with the ergonomics of the
stick-shift 300E either
Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
the 123 now, big heavy lots of torque. I was also dickering around with
the clutch pedal (sits really high seems that there is no adjustment,
also engages really high, think I am going to shim out the slave
cylinder to compe
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Rolf wrote:
> As
> of now I have only driven it around the block a few times. Charleston is a
> hoof but might make for a nice spring break...
>
Yeah, what I want to know is how it drives! Do the gear ratios seem
appropriate to the power band? How's the turbo
09, 2010 10:37 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
Pretty much. And rebuild the rear end. And a new head heheheh.
Can't wait to take it out to Road Atlanta and see what the top speed
is...
-Rolf
On 11/09/2010 09:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
ame.
-Max
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:37 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
Pretty much. And rebuild the rear end. And
Pretty much. And rebuild the rear end. And a new head heheheh.
Can't wait to take it out to Road Atlanta and see what the top speed is...
-Rolf
On 11/09/2010 09:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Rolf,
How did it go? Is this swap into a die
car?
-Max
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
If all goes well and Rusty comes through on some parts
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Rolf,
How did it go? Is this swap into a diesel engine car?
Subject line says 87 300D.
Now he just needs an intercooler, a variable turbo, and more fuel.
Mitch.
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Rolf,
How did it go? Is this swap into a diesel engine car?
-Max
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my
car?
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:39 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
>
> I
If all goes well and Rusty comes through on some parts I will be
swapping out my leaky auto for a 5spd manual. Hopefully I can do it in a
day I'll have 2 sets of helping hands in theory.
-Rolf
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