with el'cheapo snows was the best snow vehicle I've ever
had... Just put it in gear, dump the clutch and it'd dig until it found
something solid to push off of.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:35:43 -0500
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] tires, again
To: Mercedes Discussion
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From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:10 AM
Subject: [MBZ] tires, again
Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't
Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't
usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking
for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching
for sales.
I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been
Michelins are ok, but high-priced. Best price/value I have found is
Conti Touring. The higher-end major brand tires are often ok, but
are high-priced. Avoid Wal-mart/Sams.
At 09:10 AM 7/13/2007, you wrote:
Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't
usually have
i spent my whole life worshiping at the shrine of michelin. my neighbor
sells goodyear tires and told me to try goodyear assurance, which he'd sell
me at cost. best tire i've ever used by far.
On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D
On 7/13/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michelins are ok, but high-priced. Best price/value I have found is
Conti Touring.
I like how the Contis ride and handle, but they don't last in my
experience. I like the mid-priced Dunlops, anything in the
All-Season High Performance or
If you do get occasional snow, check out the Nokian WR So far as I know
it's still the only all season tire that is also rated as a snow tire,
but they wear as long as most other all season tires
http://www.nokiantires.com/en/tire_wr.aspx?season=summer
In some places, if you get tangled up
I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have
Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every
Michelin I've ever owned.
I have Dunlops on my bike, and they are far more
popular among bike people than Michelins. In fact, I
don't think I've ever heard a biker suggest a Michelin
in a
3 of the 4 Dunlops on my SDL slipped belts on the same weekend. It
was a very rough, slow ride home. Wear is a tradeoff with
traction. I prefer softer tires with traction and a 40k or so
wearlife over longer lasting tires that send you into the ditch if
you spit in front of them. IMHO,
I have had good service from Michelins, long miles on them, which I
think must be due to a fairly hard compound. A hard compound is
probably not the best for all-weather use, if I understand that soft is
generally better in rain, snow, etc.
Perhaps the mile warranty might be indicative of the
On Jul 13, 2007, at 11:14 AM, LWB250 wrote:
I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have
Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every
Michelin I've ever owned.
Although I've Michelins on the two diesel wagons, and a set of
Yokohama Avids on the S class I did note Consumer reports
i'm of the feeling that i want tire to perform, first and foremost;
if it won't do that well, i don't care how long they last!
i've got Pirelli P3000 Cinturatos on the '85 300D right now that i'm
happier with than the Michelins i had on there before these; i disliked
the handling of
On 7/13/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I prefer softer tires with traction and a 40k or so
wearlife over longer lasting tires that send you into the ditch if
you spit in front of them. IMHO, sticky tires are the cheapest and
best insurance you can buy.
Oh, I agree strongly! But my
I put a pair of Jokohamas on a 124 and within a month one came apart
on the interstate, and did $2500 damage to the car. no warranty or
repair from Jokohama. You will NEVER find Jokohama on MY car ever again!!!
At 04:35 PM 7/13/2007, you wrote:
replaced earlier this year
with Yokohama,
Ah, thank you for that information. Hopefully as a Japanese company
which usually strive for zero defects any issue with tires exploding
were addressed.
Of course it's hard to know if it was a manufacturing issue or nail
lurking for you that day. I would think if it was widespread we
I have NOT been pleased with any Contis I've tried in the last 20 years.
They don't last and their traction on light snow in NIL.
Marshall
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Marshall Booth wrote:
I have NOT been pleased with any Contis I've tried in the last 20 years.
One of my cars came with a pair of new Conti touring tires. Don't remember
where they were made, but I do remember it was not Germany. They both went
egg shaped on me within 30k. I can't remember
I have Kumhos on 3 of the 4 MBs now - and so far they're great tires -
but I haven't had any of them any longer than two years/20k miles.
They are quiet, sticky, and do fine in the rain.
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin
Interesting. I guess there is no consensus, which is why everyone
hates oil and tire threads on the list. Conti is the only brand and
have never had a slipped belt with. I will admit that 20-30 years
ago, when Eurotire was in business, I always bought German made
Contis. I am not sure I
I've never been fond of michelins either. They last a long time, but
they're just plain squirilly. I've had about the same luck with
Yokohamas. I had a set of those on a car for over 80k miles, but they
scared me half to death when it rained or on a mountain road
---Robert
LWB250 wrote:
On Jul 13, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:
Interesting. I guess there is no consensus, which is why everyone
hates oil and tire threads on the list.
The sad thing is that oil is a $50 and 5K miles decision roughly,
where as tires are a
$500 (or much more) and 50K mile decision and
Wickford, RI
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Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:56 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] Tires Again -
I need to get 4 new tires for my wifes work car - a 91 MB 300D - and was
considering Kuhmo
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From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:36 AM
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I have Falkens on my Subaru Forester AWD. They stopped the hydroplaning
on wet roads
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My vote is for German made Contis, hands down. I can't find anyplace to
buy them anymore. I have several US made Contis on several vehicles with
no complaints SO FAR***
Last night, one of the Jokohamas I had on the 300TE came apart
rumor has it that Loren wrote:
I can say without a doubt, the Jokohamas are coming off and Contis are
going on.
going on. I have driven Contis hundreds of thousands of safe miles,
with never a problem or slipped belt. Keep in mind though, that
those were German made Contis.
I'm sorry
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rumor has it that Loren wrote:
I can say without a doubt, the Jokohamas are coming off and Contis are
going on.
going on. I have driven Contis hundreds of thousands of safe miles,
with never a problem or slipped belt. Keep in mind though, that
those were German made
service they would not need to advertise it.
Trampas
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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 4:40 PM
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My vote is for German made Contis, hands
I've never had Kuhmos on a car, but their big truck tires are very nice,
impressive handling and braking even when empty.
My personal favourite for cars anymore is Nokians. you just can't beat
those things for traction, especially in adverse conditions, and the
price isn't bad either.
rumor has it that Mike wrote:
Bet that farm truck could use a set of Geolander MT's..
Mike, Who must think Philip's farm truck needs lot's of
tractionlol - Original Message -
From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rumor has it that Loren wrote:
But I suspect this is like the
: Re: [MBZ] Tires Again -
rumor has it that Loren wrote:
I can say without a doubt, the Jokohamas are coming off and Contis are
going on.
going on. I have driven Contis hundreds of thousands of safe miles,
with never a problem or slipped belt. Keep in mind though, that
those were
] Tires Again /rolling resistance comment and question
In a message dated 7/10/2006 7:17:21 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I put Conti's on my 280 and I like the way they feel in the wet and they are
so quet even when you run them hard. Yep, lots of choices out
' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Again -
I personally had some Continentals Contact Extreme tires. I threw them away
with only 10k miles on them. They were the worse tires In the mornings
it felt like you were driving over 2x4s in the road
as to what are good tires and which
are not. And what you want to get out of them...
Levi (:
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:55:24 EDT
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Again /rolling resistance comment and question
In a message
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rumor has it that Mike wrote:
Bet that farm truck could use a set of Geolander MT's..
Mike, Who must think Philip's farm truck needs lot's of
tractionlol
cheaperBuyer
beware.
Mike
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From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Again /rolling resistance comment and question
I'm not quite sure I agree
oh boy, here we ago again.
Mike Canfield wrote:
Also to be mentioned is where the tires are purchased and at what store.
Tires bought in the warmer climates seem to be harder and therefore get less
traction. I assume this is to compensate for the hotter conditions the tire
must operate
How true! I also tried the generals from Sams. Wear fast and slip
belts. The goodyear allegra from sams, also in 205/65 15 for the SDL have
held up ok. They just cost more than they are worth, and you have to put
up with all the Sams BS. Sears, Sams and all such places have lines only
Firestone in general are all shit and should be avoided at any
coststhey consistently perform at the bottom of the charts in
testing against their peers.
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
Loren Faeth wrote:
I have found in the past 2-3 years that i can buy Contis (Contact touring)
for less than the price just about anything else available that is a decent
tire. (S rated or better) I do not consider the wallyland 29.95 Douglas
tires to be decent tires.
I bought a couple of
It's not about how long they last. It's about how scary they are in
the wet. PO put cheapy Douglas tires on my old W123 (probably just to
get it to pass inspection so he could sell it), and it would try to
swap ends quite often in the rain. Not a good thing. These were
relatively new tires. I
Gary Thompson wrote:
It's not about how long they last. It's about how scary they are in
the wet.
I've got the Douglas Xtra-Trac, drove them through a Michigan winter.
No traction problems noted, except on ice. Went through a pond twice
a day at 50mph for a couple of weeks in March. (I knew
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Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 6:36 PM
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Just my 2 cents, don't rule out Continental if you want quietness and good
wet weather performance. Then there's BF Goodrich if you want something
that lasts, a little noisier, but a darn
: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:30:02 -0400
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Thanks for the reminder, Harry, I have Conti's on my 911 and am very happy
with them - I believe they're original equipment on the 911 and other
In a message dated 7/10/2006 7:17:21 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I put Conti's on my 280 and I like the way they feel in the wet and they are
so quet even when you run them hard. Yep, lots of choices out there, good
and bad
Harry and all,
I tried the
Thanks for the reminder, Harry, I have Conti's on my 911 and am very happy
with them - I believe they're original equipment on the 911 and other
Porsche models. And they *do* handle great and are quiet.
There certainly are a lot of tire choices!! Choice, fruit from the tree
of
capitalism.
My vote is for German made Contis, hands down. I can't find anyplace to
buy them anymore. I have several US made Contis on several vehicles with
no complaints SO FAR***
Last night, one of the Jokohamas I had on the 300TE came apart on the
interstate and cause $2000 damage to the TE.
I need to get 4 new tires for my wifes work car - a 91 MB 300D - and was
considering Kuhmo but Sears sold out but will get more soon. I'm also
looking at Sumitomo and Falken. Next in line are Michelin and Pirelli - we
normally run Michelins on it.
I've heard good things about Kuhmo - but
I've had great experience with Kuhmo's. Never tried the Falken or
Sumitomo. Personally, I'd just order the Kuhmo's from tirerack and then
have Sears install them (assuming you like Sears over some other place for
some reason).
Levi (:
On 7/9/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to get
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From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Again -
I've had great experience with Kuhmo's. Never tried the Falken or
Sumitomo. Personally, I'd just order
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Again -
I've had great experience with Kuhmo's. Never tried the Falken or
Sumitomo. Personally, I'd just order the Kuhmo's from tirerack and then
have Sears install them (assuming you like Sears over some
In a message dated 7/9/2006 5:57:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need to get 4 new tires for my wifes work car - a 91 MB 300D - and was
considering Kuhmo but Sears sold out but will get more soon. I'm also
looking at Sumitomo and Falken. Next in line are
Goodyear Assurance. I've always bought Michelins as this is the gospel and
i'm prone to religious faith, but my neighbor is a goodyear dealer and sold
me these at cost, assuring they were better than any michelin
They are really, really good, certainly a lot better than the michelin
symmetrys
my kuhmo experience hasn't been all that great. i guess they are best of
the cheap tires, but being better than the pep boys specials is anything to
rave about
On 7/9/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've had great experience with Kuhmo's. Never tried the Falken or
Sumitomo.
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