Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-31 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 30, 2006, at 1:42 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Yes! That seems a very reasonable solution! What gets me is that in my Saab, the ignition is down there. Yeah it's nice to be different, but the junk that can fall into there... The kicker is that my dealer-installed sunroof drips slightly

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-31 Thread OK Don
Isn't that a George Carlin quote? How does one know when sour cream has gone bad? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:42:33 -0500 John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: You open the refrigerator door and see everything else standing there with their hands up and the sour cream holding a pistol, robbing them at gunpoint.

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-31 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:37 PM, OK Don wrote: Isn't that a George Carlin quote? Its a question I asked out of curiosity. I suppose he could have too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Very pleasant news this evening! The signals started working great! It didn't take many flicks of the hazard switch to affect a change. What a great feeling to have them working again for no money and no work! (my kind of repair). Thanks for the reminder that operating the hazard switch can affect

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:19 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: The thing about the Pepsi syndrome vs switches in horizontal locations is that the goo has no place to go once it gets in there. That's why I usually just take 'em out and clean them out thoroughly. -- Jim Skins like those used to protect

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: That's a good name for it. Although other sticky colloids and suspensions can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream. DO NOT ASK how I know! ;) Alex Chamberlain How does one know when sour cream has gone bad? Johnny B. I Mac

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
It'll grow red or green lumps on top. It'll also smell something bad, unlike normal sour cream. ~ ~On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: ~ ~ That's a good name for it. Although other sticky colloids and ~ suspensions ~ can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream. DO NOT ASK how I

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:29:39 -0500 John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: That's a good name for it. Although other sticky colloids and suspensions can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream. DO NOT ASK how I know! ;) Alex

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Knoble
How does one know when sour cream has gone bad? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am It has mold growing on it. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Red or green lumps! How Christmasy! (Johnny is making a joke... but, really, there IS a difference, just like when yogurt goes bad [although ironically the fact that it's already spoiled in a sense DOES make it last longer].) Alex Chamberlain, who has made yogurt from scratch for the fun of it

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Brian Chase
Yes! That seems a very reasonable solution! What gets me is that in my Saab, the ignition is down there. Yeah it's nice to be different, but the junk that can fall into there... The kicker is that my dealer-installed sunroof drips slightly and guess where it drips down into? Brian 83 240D 84

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: You open the refrigerator door and see everything else standing there with their hands up and the sour cream holding a pistol, robbing them at gunpoint. Craig That's bad. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Ah! yes, its up on the cluster. Surprising the things that I forget. Maybe it's all this college-knowledge I'm trying to cram into my brain. Actually it's that I'm keeping so busy with other things that I haven't really gotten to know my new 240D yet. I'll try turning the dimmer and hoping. Is

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-28 Thread Jim Cathey
I'll try turning the dimmer and hoping. Is removing it a bear? Two screws, once you have the cluster out. And that's not usually too hard either. -- Jim

[MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing with, that little box located near the shifter - well, they're not working anymore. Incidentally the dash lights are also out. I changed the fuse - no help. I have unplugged

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:49:12 -0600 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing with, that little box located near the shifter - well, they're not working anymore. Incidentally

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing with, that little box located near the shifter - well, they're not working anymore. Incidentally the dash lights are also out. I changed the fuse - no help. I have unplugged

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread BillR
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
1981 300SD 273k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread R A Bennell
issues so far. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out Huh. Too bad these things are so cranky. That's not very nice. I went

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
I went out this a.m. and hit the hazards, and got some reaction - they work normally, and if I hit the right side turn sigs. while the hazards are on, they work (the left stop blinking when I do this in other words). Huh? When the hazards are on the turn signal lever should be inoperative.

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yeah, that seems funny to me too, but it happened. So you're saying that the hazards operating is essentially the hazard switch telling it to run both turn signals at once? And when this happens, the input from the turn sigs. is negated, or has no effect? Not trying to make things difficult, just

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Jeff Zedic
Try turning the hazard switch on and off 30-50 times! The dimmer for the dash lights is on the cluster just below the gauges on the right side I think. If not then it's the one on the left side. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread BillR
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out Yeah, that seems funny to me too, but it happened. So you're saying that the hazards operating is essentially the hazard switch telling it to run both turn signals

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Try turning the hazard switch on and off 30-50 times! The dimmer for the dash lights is on the cluster just below the gauges on the right side I think. If not then it's the one on the left side. It's the one (on the left) that makes the nasty scrapey/scratchey sound when you twist it. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Yeah, that seems funny to me too, but it happened. So you're saying that the hazards operating is essentially the hazard switch telling it to run both turn signals at once? And when this happens, the input from the turn sigs. is negated, or has no effect? Exactly. Reading the schematic for