Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-13 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26 -0500, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > My basic feeling is that most manuals are not very helpful. > > They tend to say remove this or disconnect that but fail to tell you > how you might accomplish that task. Most automobile services manuals, particularly the factory manuals,

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-13 Thread Randy Bennell
My basic feeling is that most manuals are not very helpful. They tend to say remove this or disconnect that but fail to tell you how you might accomplish that task. Things like electrical plugs often have tricks that one must figure out before damaging them while trying to get them to let go.

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-12 Thread OK Don
I think he wants to pull the engine, not replace the mounts. He's shocked to find that there are shocks on the engine - Ed, I don't think there's much different between the turbo 617 and your 616 engine, as far as R&R is concerned. The shifter stays in the car, one rod gets disconnecte3d from the

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-12 Thread Dieselhead
MOtor mounts and engine shocks are not that difficult. Put a block on top of a jack and under the oil pan. Loosen the big bolts on each side motor mount. jack up the engine half an inch or so. remove the allen bolts holding the motor mounts to the frame. Pull out the old mounts, put in the

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-12 Thread Ed Booher
Ok, how about a step by step for someone that hasn't ever pulled an engine before. I just learned that apparently the 123's have engine shocks as well as engine mounts? So does that mean there are two shocks, and two mounts? You unbolt all four and then the engine drops to the concrete with a reso

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Craig
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:17:13 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > In general that is the method to do any engine, the 123 is/should be no > different. Fuel lines, electrical stuff, vac lines, and water hoses. > You'll of course have to disconnect the drive shaft and anything > attached to the tranny f

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you separate it you are doing it the hard way. The use of a leveler makes it much easier. On 4/6/2011 7:46 PM, Allan Streib wrote: The one time I pulled engine and transmission together I had a hell of a time getting the thing tipped enough to clear the front of the engine bay (this was wi

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, FAR easier. On 4/6/2011 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: And it is far easier to do it as a complete unit (engine and tranny) than a single component... Dan Sent from my iPod -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320, 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350S

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Allan Streib
I had a leveler. Basically I could not get the engine tipped enough for the front to clear the crossmember at the front of the engine bay before the valve cover hit the firewall. I finally SQUEEZED it out by removing the valve cover, that gave me a few more inches. You really have to get it near

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread OK Don
A leveler between the hoist and the engine makes it a LOT easier when you pull the engine and tranny together. Yo don't need to lift it higher, and inserting it back in the re0installation phase is also made easier. I think mine was around $40 at the equivalent of Harbor Freight - money well spent!

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Allan Streib
The one time I pulled engine and transmission together I had a hell of a time getting the thing tipped enough to clear the front of the engine bay (this was with the fan removed and radiator out). Not sure if the W123 is roomier in that regard, but I'd be inclined to separate the engine and transm

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Dieselhead
It should be in the 123 manual or the OM616/617 manual. It is good to read, but not always very clear. too much detail/steps about some things and not enough about others. That means it is a typical manual. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used par

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff
And it is far easier to do it as a complete unit (engine and tranny) than a single component... Dan Sent from my iPod On Apr 6, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > In general that is the method to do any engine, the 123 is/should be no > different. Fuel lines, electrical stuff, vac line

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas
In general that is the method to do any engine, the 123 is/should be no different. Fuel lines, electrical stuff, vac lines, and water hoses. You'll of course have to disconnect the drive shaft and anything attached to the tranny from the car (shifter!). Just have a good crane, maybe with one

Re: [MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread Randy Bennell
pretty straight forward undo various bits keep track of them with notes, taped labels and perhaps a digital camera lift the old one out reverse the procedure be careful do not hurt yourself various folks will argue for days about whether it is better to remove the engine and transmission o

[MBZ] W123 Engine removal and reinstallation step by step

2011-04-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Does anyone know where I could find step by step instructions - preferably illustrated - on removing and reinstalling an engine from a W123 turbo diesel (or similar)? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archive