Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think red?

2013-08-14 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Well there is mention of 'new air conditioning' whether this refers to a top up, who knows Hendrik who is not allowed to top up AC systems On 14/08/13 12:12, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I do like that burlwood dash and the CLEAN engine bay. Almost droolworthy, even though I didn't see a

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The R129 does seem nice and modern, in the style of the W201 and w124. Issue I would have is that they boogered them up with electronics and disintegrating wire harness. Just too many bells, whistles, and

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-13 Thread OK Don
I don't think the first R129's had the folding hardtop, but I can't find a definitive answer in a quick search. The R129 is based on the W124 and has many interchangable parts. from Wikipedia (YMMV): Designed in 1984, the R129 was based on the shortened floorpan of the Mercedes-Benz W124

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't think the first R129's had the folding hardtop, I didn't think _any_ of them did. Thought that showed up with the SLK. Just like 113 (?) and 107, it has both a folding soft top and a separate drop-on hard top. The R107's rather dated rear diagonal swing axle Say what? 107's got

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think 10k?

2013-08-13 Thread Hendrik and Fay
If it was red with a beige interior, also the rust is a worry, just how much is there? Hendrik who thinks a sports car should be red On 13/08/13 00:16, Allan Streib wrote: You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable. Until then, it's a project with all the speculative

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think red?

2013-08-13 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah this looks a better buy http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/3989184443.html Hendrik who used to have red car but it wasn't sporty On 13/08/13 00:37, Dan Penoff wrote: It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its own. 1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think red?

2013-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I do like that burlwood dash and the CLEAN engine bay. Almost droolworthy, even though I didn't see a reference to ICE COLD AC. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think red?

2013-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I do like that burlwood dash and the CLEAN engine bay. Almost droolworthy, even though I didn't see a reference to ICE COLD AC. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah this looks a better buy http://tampa.craigslist.org/**

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread dseretakis
You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I would offer him 2-3k On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Allan Streib
You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable. Until then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails. A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and run well. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: You

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am going to sell my car to Dimitri, since he is compassionate about its value. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable. Until then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Dan Penoff
It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its own. 1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices are all over the map. Search the Tampa Bay CL for SLs and you'll see everything from beaters that need things like windshields to crazy dealers asking

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread dseretakis
Oh. I didn't realize that it's a non-runner. 3K is still way too low. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable. Until then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread dseretakis
Ok what car are we talking about? I'm referring to the 300SEL 4.5. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its own. 1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Sorry. Thought you were referring to the original subject car. Dan On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:10 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok what car are we talking about? I'm referring to the 300SEL 4.5. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Dan Penoff

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Mitch Haley
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok what car are we talking about? I'm referring to the 300SEL 4.5. 1986 560SL with hard top and torn soft top. Had fuel leak. Replaced everything but the fuel pump, still leaks so he assumes the pump is bad. Won't start on its own which makes me fearful of the

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Hattaway
You must mean the monthly fuel bill for it?? (c: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all. I would offer him 2-3k On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I should pull a Kleb

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread clay
The R129 does seem nice and modern, in the style of the W201 and w124. Issue I would have is that they boogered them up with electronics and disintegrating wire harness. Just too many bells, whistles, and flashing lights to go wrong. clay On Aug 11, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Larry T wrote: at

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The R129 does seem nice and modern, in the style of the W201 and w124. Issue I would have is that they boogered them up with electronics and disintegrating wire harness. Just too many bells, whistles, and flashing lights to go

[MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out. Dan ___

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would offer him 2-3k On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Allan Streib
If you want it... can't hurt to ask. But if he says yes you are sorta obligated, at least the way I look at things. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me.

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I was thinking $1500. If he bites, I would do it. There's nothing there that's so bad as to make it a money pit. I'm not taking any bets, however. I think the big deal killer is that it's not currently driveable. That will take it out of a lot of people's consideration unless they're

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I highly doubt he will take it. Usually they have to get 3 or 4 people offering them that sort of money then they start figuring out that's what they will get and take the next offer that comes along. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Very true. However, this is Dad's old car and Dad isn't around any more, nor does there appear to be any sort of sentiment in his effort to sell. Looks like it's taking up driveway space. I sent him a rather detailed note with my concerns and the justification for my offer. If anything, he

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Larry T
at least you'll find outhow negotiable the price really is. It does sound like lot of work -- and these cars are not very easy to work on with very expensive parts. Also consider the cost of labor - even if you can do some yourself, most people can't -- I suggest you add labor and

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

2013-08-11 Thread Allan Streib
I don't know why people get offended by lowball offers. If someone make me an offer that is too low, I just say sorry, I can't accept that. It's just an offer... not a personal insult! What does annoy me is if somone says something like would you take $1,500 and then if I say yes, they

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?

2013-08-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
The M117 engine is pretty good, except that the timing chain guides need to replaced every now and then. This is a KE-jetronic (CIS/E) car, maybe the fuel pump relay going wonky? However it is a reliable system and reasonably simple. Of concern is the 'corrosion' on the engine, looks like it was

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?

2013-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a third generation (yes, that's third!) MB indie in town. The father (still living), two sons and a grandson or two are the business. They have forgotten more than the local stealerships will ever know. When I had my W112 the old man used to get the giggles whenever I brought it in,

Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?

2013-08-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Well that sounds good then, guess all you can do is put your hat in the ring and see what happens, personally I would prefer a 420SL, 560 is overkilll for places with speed limits. Hendrik who has the lowly 6 banger family truck On 12/08/13 10:19, Dan Penoff wrote: I have a third generation