On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Actually I think Darwin posited it as survival of the fittest which
actually has very little to do with physical strength.
... which is why I prefer (for cars that I would actually drive) '70s MBZs
to '70s US supercars.
I held my tongue when my son's teacher said, the only way to learn
multiplication tables is to memorize them. But it was hard. When we left
the room I told son never to listen to her about math, and ask me if he
couldn't figure out how to do something. That seems to be working well so
far,
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I held my tongue when my son's teacher said, the only
questions. I
got a perfect score in that class too and still ruined the curve for
everybody else.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:20:51 -0600
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] corn ethanol
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Read this in another forum.
Any comments? Loren?
Mitch.
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1239047/m17370463/#m17370463
Corn ethanol wasn't really a scam, at least not originally. You have to
understand how it began.
During the Dust Bowl of the Great Depression, the U.S. suffered crop
The infrastructure is already in place to produce, store, distribute and
process corn. Given the millions of gallons of fuel we use per day it is
currently the only alternative to oil we could possibly fall back on in short
notice if we had to.
On Dec 9, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley
The US is poised to become a net energy exporter and reserves now exceed
the ME. With Canada, N America is awash in oil. Using corn for fuel is
somewhat nonsensical.
--R
On 12/9/12 10:33 AM, Dave Walton wrote:
The infrastructure is already in place to produce, store, distribute and
process
Assuming the current political environment that gives us relatively cheap
oil will continue ad infinitum is naive.
Failure to prepare alternatives would be irresponsible.
On Sunday, December 9, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:
The US is poised to become a net energy exporter and reserves now exceed
Also with the return (at least it feels like it here) of the dust bowl,
that excess capacity might not be so excess as it seems. We might need to
eat that corn, what little is produced during the droughts.
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:14 AM, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Assuming the
Having been in the alternative fuel business for the past 14 years and had
a more than passing look at ethanol production... I do not agree with your
blanket statement of irresponsible.
In actual application, as processing exists today, ethanol is
irresponsible, for a multitude of reasons. Not
Valid point. In fact, there is currently a looming shortage of all grains
worldwide. Russia, and the Balkan states for example have had more than two
years of drought and low production. Rice is going short in the Pacific rim
for this years production. Famine is just around every corner you look.
Do you let the free market allocate resources to the people willing to pay
the most, or do you let the government step in and control who gets what
and at what price? It might keep you from a good night's sleep to know that
our selfish lifestyle would be the direct cause of suffering and death in
Grant sez:
and we are turning edible corn
into untaxed whisky to burn in our cars.
I am not sure the varieties grown specifically for ethanol are what I
(or anyone else) would consideredible I have not seen any info
about the food use of ethanol specific varieties.
There is some
Survival of the specie has always depended on the strong surviving while
the weak perish, but only for the last how many billion years?
Modern wise man apparently has decided that government intervention is
necessary to put nature in balance. The debate is now before us... who will
win.
I know
On Dec 9, 2012 8:28 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
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The US is poised to become a net
energy exporter
So say the people touting stock in small companies doing horizontal
drilling and fracking. I'm not sure I believe it.
Alex
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they actually know how to fix anything. Nobody really knows
how to fix the economy, its not like theres a private one to practice on.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:57:58 -0700
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On Dec 9, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
The thing I hate about our current political standoff for instance is how
both sides seem to think they actually know how to fix anything. Nobody
really knows how to fix the economy,
I would disagree. The people
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Survival of the specie has always
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