Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
A little town (Mars Hill) in SC got nuked back when. Fortunately it did not go off, but it messed up a house and the people who owned it got nada from the feds (the man of the house did get 2 cartons of Luckies from What's My Line though). --R On 9/27/2010 10:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-28 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I'm not seeing a Mars Hill in SC, there's one in NC though. Same one? Walt, who had some weird dreams after reading the criticality accident page last night... On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A little town (Mars Hill) in SC got nuked back

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Oops my bad -- Mars Bluff (I knew it was Mars something) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Bluff,_South_Carolina http://www.scetv.org/index.php/carolina_stories/show/incident_at_mars_bluff/ --R On 9/28/2010 9:30 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: I'm not seeing a Mars Hill in SC, there's one in NC

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-28 Thread WILTON
Mars Bluff? Wilton - Original Message - From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors I'm not seeing a Mars Hill in SC, there's one in NC though. Same

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying? Other than a really big bomb Don't know about 1945, but ten years later people knew what they were carrying. You know those island runways where a successful landing meant all you can see is water in front of

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-27 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: And I have the scars to prove it. Well... Don't leave us all hanging - tell on about the story of the scars. Scars from no science? Scars from no tech back then? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-27 Thread Dieselhead
Secret message to mao: You gonna answer the email I sent you off list? Chairman mao wrote: Not much of that type of weird death defying stuff happening today in the realm of what we want to call science. There is no science anymore - it is all indoctrination. Science: you don't get funded

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-27 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: Secret message to mao: You gonna answer the email I sent you off list? I did, I did - yesterday. I marked it OFFLIST so you would see it - you did not see it? I will resend if you don't see it. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-27 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: But the peasants will take up their pitchforks eventually and throw the bums out. My cynicism does not allow for that likelihood. I would hope for the same, but I doubt that will occur... ever. Too much control exists in media and other mechanisms of indoctrination to allow

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I misspoke, it was a sub-critical mass that would release a goop of energy the was measurable on the meters of the day. Still pretty heady stuff for the day. -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. On

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:25:06 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole That doesn't conform

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Curt Raymond
: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors Message-ID:     aanlktikvhu+l-trajmowj4oaqzqkraif8uo2eertq...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dieselhead wrote: ?Then I can start on the 2 OM616

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: Actually, there were two incidents of that, though not exactly as described. Ever since, it has been mandatory to do those types of experiments remotely (like 1/4 mile away) with machines doing the moving of material together. Yeah - and what about fatboy over Hiroshima? That had

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: Yeah - and what about fatboy over Hiroshima? That had to be one frightening flight in an old airplane. Hiroshima got Little Boy and Nagasaki got Fat Man I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying? Other than a really big bomb Allan

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: Hiroshima got Little Boy and Nagasaki got Fat Man I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying?  Other than a really big bomb Thanks for the names - you got the idea... I thought at one time I heard an account that spoke about the percussion wave that they

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Dieselhead
THe B29s were pretty new at the time, not old. But I think you mean old to us now. in the link I posted a week ago about Jack Shelley, there was a link to the recordings of theinterviews Jack did with the crew of the Enola Gay, who dropped the Hiroshima bomb, and with the Nagasaki crew, and

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Dieselhead
They were told what to expect when and after it went off. Probably were told is was a really powerful bomb that was hoped to end the war and save lives. It was, and it did. To the plane crew, it was pretty much just another day at work, until later when they learned what it was and what it

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread Dieselhead
Some crude tech by today's experience - but hey - it got the job done. Not much of that type of weird death defying stuff happening today in the realm of what we want to call science. There is no science anymore - it is all indoctrination. mao And I have the scars to prove it.

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread WILTON
Fairly new airplane then; probably less than a year old. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-26 Thread WILTON
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors Allan wrote: Hiroshima got Little Boy and Nagasaki got Fat Man I wonder if the pilots had any idea what they were carrying? Other than a really big bomb Thanks for the names

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Rich Thomas
That's a great story for Sat morning. Just think, not only would you save on lighting bills, but heating bills as well! --R On 9/25/2010 10:44 AM, Dieselhead wrote: SWIMBO surprised me. She snagged some used doors. I was happy because I had found homes for all the used doors I had collected

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:44:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: But, these doors have an interesting history. They are connected to the Manhattan project. Thus the glow in the dark reference. Interesting story. Thanks for sharing. Nobody living knows what went on in there, but it

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I know we have a few Nukes guys here. Anyone work on a CE reactor? Please contact me of list as I have a piece of memorabilia that may be of interest, very cheap. -- Pete Arnold Faith is knowing there is an ocean because you have see a brook. -William Arthur Ward- On 9/25/2010 12:13

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Dieselhead
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:44:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: But, these doors have an interesting history. They are connected to the Manhattan project. Thus the glow in the dark reference. Interesting story. Thanks for sharing. I figured it was a good bit of story for a

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:39:07 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I figured it was a good bit of story for a Saturday, and the AMAZING part is it was SWMBO's idea! Hang on to her. That is what I thought the first time also. But over the years I have heard it from many people who

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote:  Then I can start on the 2 OM616 engines, hoping to make one that will propel the 80 4 speed. 123 240D (UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE ME A OM602 Bring a trailer here and take the '81 engine here? It was a good runner when rust put it on the sidelines. And, rust will take it

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Rich Thomas
I used to work with a guy who claimed to have worked at one of the nuke labs back in the 50s. Someone in a class was demonstrating what happens when you bring 2 pieces of some element (plutonium maybe, I forget that detail) together closer and closer. The idea was that the count would go

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole on the donut, for an instant you have a critical mass that will peg all the meters. Brilliant young men

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Allan Streib
Hm. Still sounds fishy to me. Nuclear fission in a critical mass happens on a timescale that makes the speed of the sphere falling through the donut hole a comparitive eternity. Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net writes: I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:36:34 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I used to work with a guy who claimed to have worked at one of the nuke labs back in the 50s. Someone in a class was demonstrating what happens when you bring 2 pieces of some element (plutonium maybe,

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:41:40 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Hm. Still sounds fishy to me. Nuclear fission in a critical mass happens on a timescale that makes the speed of the sphere falling through the donut hole a comparitive eternity. Nevertheless, it was done, and it

Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors

2010-09-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole That doesn't conform to any definition of 'tickling' I'd think of. They did used to do it, or so I