7:10 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
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>> Seattle is enamored of electric cars
That's what I thought too until son told me about getting 37 mpg on the
interstate between Nashville, Tn and Orlando, Fl. The stop and go getting
on the interstate in Nashville and getting off the interstate in Orlando
must have been enough braking-charging to keep the mileage at predicted
ave
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Seattle is enamored of electric cars. First the insight was all over the
place, but then the Priapus
Seattle is enamored of electric cars. First the insight was all over the
place, but then the Priapus comes along and is a better car, Honda brings their
accord hybrid, toyota counters, then the nizzan leaf plugs in, while the Tesla
roadster is seen more and more. Now the Tesla S is all over th
.
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>> -Curt
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>> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 13:51:21 -0400
>> From: Gary Hurst
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The range on electric is still pretty short also IIRC. Don't think it
has improved lately
I never understood the race to go with Hybrids or EVs when diesels
already have the fuel distribution network in place, the repairs
facilities are numerous and qualified and just as importantly, ther
still see on the road?
Actually to answer my own question, the largest numbers of '80s cars I see are
(in declining order) Mercedes, Volvo and Volkswagen. Considering how cheaply
made the VWs were its amazing...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 14:05:14 -0400
From: Gary Hurst
To: Merced
Well, the little guy was kinda funny-lookin'.
In what way?
I dunno... just funny-lookin'.
Can you be any more specific?
--R
On 9/2/13 2:39 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
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On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:35 PM, OK Don wrote:
> LOL = Laughing out loud. Humor. In short supply recently.
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> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
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> > i don't understand :(
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> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM, OK Don w
LOL = Laughing out loud. Humor. In short supply recently.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> i don't understand :(
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> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM, OK Don wrote:
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> > Again, LOL!!!
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> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gary Hurst
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> > > you are say
7;ve commented on the wheel bearings, also of
> note are the door cards which are cardboard where I rest my elbow and I
> tend to poke dimples into them...
>
> -Curt
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> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 13:51:21 -0400
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I tend to poke
dimples into them...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 13:51:21 -0400
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The other thing to consider is that open highway driving with a hybrid
gives significantly worse milage than an identical car without the
kes, power door locks,
power seats, stereo, satnav, etc it all adds up...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:13:02 -0400
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the we
i don't understand :(
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM, OK Don wrote:
> Again, LOL!!!
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> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
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> > you are saying i might be overweight myself?
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> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM, OK Don wrote:
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> > > I know, I was referring to the
ance.
> A friend has a 2001 Jetta gasser with 250,000+ miles but he keeps right up
> with maintenance. He's had very few problems overall.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 22:29:55 -0700
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Uh, oh. No thanks
The other thing to consider is that open highway driving with a hybrid
gives significantly worse milage than an identical car without the
batteries and electric motor(s). They are only an advantage in stop
and go conditions, so if you drive more than three or four miles
between stops, ther
very few problems overall.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 22:29:55 -0700
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I agree completely since my son has
Again, LOL!!!
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> you are saying i might be overweight myself?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM, OK Don wrote:
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> > I know, I was referring to the "pot calling the kettle black" aspect of
> > weight issues - went right over your head :-)
>
you are saying i might be overweight myself?
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM, OK Don wrote:
> I know, I was referring to the "pot calling the kettle black" aspect of
> weight issues - went right over your head :-)
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> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
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> > i said that. 350
I know, I was referring to the "pot calling the kettle black" aspect of
weight issues - went right over your head :-)
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> i said that. 3500lbs is the stuff of huge cars, not entry level ones. i
> think my VW rabbit weighed less than half that
>
i said that. 3500lbs is the stuff of huge cars, not entry level ones. i
think my VW rabbit weighed less than half that
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM, OK Don wrote:
> LOL, WHO siad that???
>
> Seriously, the weight is a result of safer cars in crashes - more steel
> around the flesh, more cr
LOL, WHO siad that???
Seriously, the weight is a result of safer cars in crashes - more steel
around the flesh, more crumple zones, more air bags, etc. I wonder if the
other manufacturers are using high strength steel like MB does now? Didn't
the high strength steel shave off 500 lbs between the 1
the weight is an outrage
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:33 AM, wrote:
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> http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-cruze-diesel-first-drive-review
> >
> > euro engine in a world car
>
>
> So the car that replaced the car that replaced the Cavalier weighs 3500lb
> with a four cylinder dies
Looks like a 55 gallon drum of 'diesel exhaust fluid' is about $150-200.
Mitch.
> Uh, oh. No thanks.
> Gerry
>
> Snip.Compared to the gas-powered Cruze, you also lose a couple cubic
> feet of rear cargo space thanks to a 17-liter diesel emission fluid tank.
> That urea fluid, which helps put
Uh, oh. No thanks.
Gerry
Snip.Compared to the gas-powered Cruze, you also lose a couple cubic
feet of rear cargo space thanks to a 17-liter diesel emission fluid tank.
That urea fluid, which helps put the clean in clean diesel, will need to be
refilled at least every 10,000 miles.snip
> http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-cruze-diesel-first-drive-review
>
> euro engine in a world car
So the car that replaced the car that replaced the Cavalier weighs 3500lb
with a four cylinder diesel in it?
I'm thinking about that W201 with a 2.1 Bluetec in it and wondering wha
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On Aug 31, 2013 6:29 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
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>>> Also, which company has th
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-cruze-diesel-first-drive-review
euro engine in a world car
clay
On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> wow. is it a daewoo motor?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:23 AM, clay wrote:
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>> Came out in late May.
>>
>> clay
>>
>> On
wow. is it a daewoo motor?
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:23 AM, clay wrote:
> Came out in late May.
>
> clay
>
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
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> > there is a diesel chevy cruze???
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:31 AM, clay wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe the diesel Cruze. I hear th
Came out in late May.
clay
On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> there is a diesel chevy cruze???
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:31 AM, clay wrote:
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>> Maybe the diesel Cruze. I hear the petrol ones get quite good mileage.
>>
>> clay
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alex Cha
there is a diesel chevy cruze???
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:31 AM, clay wrote:
> Maybe the diesel Cruze. I hear the petrol ones get quite good mileage.
>
> clay
>
> On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> > On Aug 31, 2013 6:29 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
> >
> >>>
> Also, w
Maybe the diesel Cruze. I hear the petrol ones get quite good mileage.
clay
On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2013 6:29 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
>
>>>
Also, which company has the most reasonably priced parts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Moot point on a new car.
>>
>>
Make sure the VW is NEW. Used VW are not as reliable and even the sales people
at dealerships steer clear of them.
clay
On Aug 31, 2013, at 6:58 PM, OK Don wrote:
> OK, given those parameters, go to your nearest VW dealer and test drive a
> Passat TDI - you might like it. I don't find the seats
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Gerry Archer wrote:
I agree completely since my son has a hybrid Fusion.
The Passat is now at 13,300 miles and the average over that time is 44mpg,
with a one time high of 53. Wife gets about 33mpg dirving around town in it.
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>
> Friend of mine has a 2013 CVT Sentra. Lifetime MPG keeps creeping up, most
> tanks are
Gerry Archer wrote:
I agree completely since my son has a hybrid Fusion. Problem is that I'm
looking for around 40 mpg on the highway and 30 mpg around town. Hybrid
Fusions cost about $10K more than I want to spend. Corollas, which are
selling around here fairly cheaply, get up to 40 mpg on t
On Aug 31, 2013 6:29 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
Also, which company has the most reasonably priced parts?
Moot point on a new car.
G: Not if you keep them for 30 years. (grin)
Which is why I didn't recommend the new Dodge Dart. It's a worthy
competitor to the Fusion IMHO and gets clo
My take on really good car for long trips would be an S series benz.
I drove to Colorado and back this past July 4th week. Covered 1250 miles in 22
hours, all in one sitting. No sore butt, cold air and other than having to
stay awake, not too tired after the trip. Got back home to Seattle in
On Aug 31, 2013 6:29 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
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>>> Also, which company has the most reasonably priced parts?
>>
>>
>> Moot point on a new car.
>
>
> G: Not if you keep them for 30 years. (grin)
>
Which is why I didn't recommend the new Dodge Dart. It's a worthy
competitor to the Fusion IMH
I'll do that next time I'm in Ocala which is the closest dealer. Hopefully
his prices are better than the local dealers. I've read a lot of good
things about the Passat and nothing bad.
I drove a Mercedes C class loaner from the dealer and wasn't impressed
either; especially with the ride.
Ge
From: "Curt Raymond"
"Best" is a very relative concept. I like the Jetta/Passat. A gasser of
either will run in the $18-20k range, the TDI Jetta starts around $23k with
the Passat about $3k more.
G: Those are good prices.
My in-laws have a Fusion, I think theirs is a 2008. Its a very goo
IIRC, there are at least three different seat options (that come with the
different trim levels) - should be one that will work for you. We have the
middle one - electric drivers seat, manual passengers seat.
FYI, we bought a set of Oregon Aero seat cushions for the 182 - they make a
HUGE differen
t;OK Don"
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OK, given those parameters, go to your nearest VW dealer and test drive a
Passat TDI - you might like it. I don't find the se
OK, given those parameters, go to your nearest VW dealer and test drive a
Passat TDI - you might like it. I don't find the seats quite as comfortable
as a Mercedes seat, but my wife can't tell the difference. Otherwise it
meets all your requirements, with the cost of parts being an unknown (for
me
y Archer
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On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "Gerry Archer"
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Okay, you convinced me. What's the best riding, best seated car for long
trips that can be bought for around $25K or less?
New or used?
G: New.
Also, which company has the most reasonably priced parts?
Moot point on a new car.
G: N
On Aug 31, 2013 12:52 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
Okay, you convinced me. What's the
best riding, best seated car for long
trips that can be bought for around
$25K or less?
New? Ford Fusion ticks all your boxes for comfort, reliability, and good
climate control. Get the four instead of the V-
g its been relatively warm but although the AC works on my
190D I rarely use it, I can handle the heat just fine...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:07:36 -0400
From: "Gerry Archer"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
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On Aug 31, 2013 12:52 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
>
> Okay, you convinced me. What's the
> best riding, best seated car for long
> trips that can be bought for around
> $25K or less?
New? Ford Fusion ticks all your boxes for comfort, reliability, and good
climate control. Get the four instead of
On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
> Okay, you convinced me. What's the best riding, best seated car for long
> trips that can be bought for around $25K or less?
New or used?
> Also, which company has the most reasonably priced parts?
Moot point on a new car.
> Coldest a
Okay, you convinced me. What's the best riding, best seated car for long
trips that can be bought for around $25K or less?
Also, which company has the most reasonably priced parts? Coldest air
conditioning?
Also, what's a SanGauge? Internet turns up nothing related to car repair.
Gerry
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