Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I have no experience with these on a Mercedes diesel (living in the mild PNW now), but when I was living in upstate NY I installed a hose heater on my Volvo 122S. I would power it up when I got up in the morning, leaving it on for about an hour. The car would start right up and the heater and

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread Max Dillon
The block heater should seal up just fine - I don't think I've ever heard of one leaking. Have you checked to make sure it's not already there? Many times they were installed from the factory, but no cord was included; original owner received a coupon for the cord at purchase. Block heater

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Difficult to install? Not if you have a hoist and a 8' long wrench. Difficult to seal? Not unless a big piece of the engine block comes out with the old plug when you try to unscrew it. (has this ever happened, or is it something we irrationally worry about when the torque goes north of 500

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Me jumping on a 5 foot breaker bar on says, if the block comes with it, the block was no good to begin with. I transfered mine from a 2.4 to the 3.0 with both engines out, it just takes time and a willingness to not listen to that something's going to break... feeling for once. If you have the

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread Max Dillon
@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 12:38:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!! Me jumping on a 5 foot breaker bar on says, if the block comes with it, the block was no good to begin with. I transfered mine from a 2.4 to the 3.0 with both engines out, it just takes time

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread Fmiser
Chris N John wrote: So, my question is: the block heaters sound more dependable and efficient Yup. Definitely. but hubbie is concerned about problems installing in the old car. He thinks it will be hard to seal up after removing the old plug, which seems to be another big concern, too.

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread Dieselhead
What everyone else said is right. You can get a block heater from Rusty at 800 741 5252. They are cheaper than the hose kind and take 1/2 the electricity. In the winter, I would opt for paying some shop (preferably with MB Diesel experience) to install it. You need a hoist and the starter

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread Fmiser
Dieselhead wrote: You need a hoist and the starter will have to come out. It is possible to raise the hood to vertical and remove the manifolds and do it from above. I did mine from the top. With the turbo, start, head and manifold still attached. I wish I had photos or video of the events

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!

2010-12-15 Thread R A Bennell
You will find other possible solutions out there if you look. I remember external strip heaters were avaliable in the 70's. The fellow who parked beside me had one on a Honda Accord in about 1978. I remember him cleaning it off in the summer as some oil had got on it and it smoked when hot.

Re: [MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?

2010-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond
The block heater will use about 1/2 the electricity to get the engine warm enough to start ~400W vs ~1000W, your electricity bill will thank you. Getting the plug to seal is not an issue (its threaded) but getting the old plug out can be. Something best left to a professional if you're not sure