Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Bosch make different racks for different countries, but you should be able to order what you need in terms of racks if you do some homework. The one we got in 2010 is still in service but the door itself is flimsy torsionally and the metal at the hinges was giving up, literally cracking. Not impre

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
We have a Whirlpool "Quiet Partner I", which was about $200 a few years ago. Quieter than the 1994 Maytag it replaced, but not terribly quiet. Plastic tub. No filters, not many options, just gets the job done. I don't remember which brands make repair info available to home owners, but I t

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Bosch make different racks for different countries, but you should be able to order what you need in terms of racks if you do some homework. The one we got in 2010 is still in service but the door itself is flimsy torsionally and the metal at the hinges was giving up, literally cracking. Not impres

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I like the hidden controls. And their racks can be funky and tale a little getting used to. Dan > On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Do you guys like the hidden controls in the top or the ones with the front > controls? It seems the hidden controls ar

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Do you guys like the hidden controls in the top or the ones with the front controls? It seems the hidden controls are the popular ones these days. On 4/2/2016 7:39 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Different Bosches come with different racks but the guts are all pretty much the same, just w

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Different Bosches come with different racks but the guts are all pretty much the same, just with different controls. I bought a Bosch off the floor at Lowes and got them to swap the racks for another one on the floor, the ones I liked were like the ones on a machine I got in Houston. There ar

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I bought the cheapest available at the local hardware store, it works great, no filters to clean. I think the pump is a macerator (so?) type that grinds it up a bit as it pumps it out to the sink-mounted disposal. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 __

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well this maytag is pretty quiet, but I am just so annoyed with having to take it apart and clean it out all the time. I hate to ditch it already when its so new but I guess I can just put it out in the garage and have it available in case the dishwasher in the rental house craps out. I do li

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

2016-04-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ditch it like we did and buy a Bosch. You’ll never regret it. It’s so quiet the cat’s purring downs out the sound it makes. It cleans stuff that we used to hand wash because we knew it wouldn’t come clean in the Maytag. Dan > On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wro

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers ?? How does Stainless Steel reflect the heat ?? Is there a magic property involved where a cooler item {Stainless box} can drive heat into a hotter item {The scalding hot dishes} ? This seem to defy thermo 101 that I learned 40 years ago. Were

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:57 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers you work for HD? Im thinking I want SS interior, and about the cheapest I see is in the 599 range. Douglas wrote: I sell em at home depot and they are al

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-16 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: "I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the dishes, which seems to get worse and worse. Im looking for a new one. Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?" We lived in our house for 4 years without a dishwasher. So, when we remodeled the Kitchen, I made sure to

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:23:17 + (UTC) pm7...@comcast.net wrote: > OK, I crawled into my dishwasher and closed the door. > > > It's dark, damn light went out And I thought only refrigerators had lights ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For n

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
You don't need a new one, you need to fix your old one. The things that spin around and shoot water at the top and bottom need to be cleaned out, or replaced (they're very cheap). You can clear or replace the filter at the bottom two. It will work like new. I just did it to mine. Jaime On Su

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Rich Thomas
-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers ?? How does Stainless Steel reflect the heat ?? Is there a magic property involved where a cooler

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread R A Bennell
I wonder if the stainless interior will make it noisier. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread pm7088
rn Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:43:31 + (UTC) pm7...@comcast.net wrote: > > > ?? How does Stainless Steel reflect the heat ?? > > Is there a magic property involved where a cooler item {Stainless box} > can drive heat into a hotter item

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Douglas
Just more so than plastic D -- From: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:43 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers ?? How does Stainless Steel reflect the heat ?? Is there a magic property involved wher

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:43:31 + (UTC) pm7...@comcast.net wrote: > > > ?? How does Stainless Steel reflect the heat ?? > > Is there a magic property involved where a cooler item {Stainless box} > can drive heat into a hotter item {The scalding hot dishes} ? This seem > to defy thermo 101 that

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > As far as I know I have never seen any filter assembly.  Where might this be > located on a maytag? > It's often in the bottom hidden under the rotating spray whatchamacallit (I want to call it the agitator, but obviously that's not righ

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread dave walton
Grab some tools and start taking it apart. Follow the path of the water - start at the inside bottom. Worst case you will break something and have to go buy a new one. These things are way simpler than the cars we work on. -Dave Walton On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Mitch Haley
pm7...@comcast.net wrote: ?? How does Stainless Steel reflect the heat ?? Is there a magic property involved where a cooler item {Stainless box} can drive heat into a hotter item {The scalding hot dishes} ? This seem to defy thermo 101 that I learned 40 years ago. Were the rules changed when I

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread pm7088
? Pete - Original Message - From: "Douglas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:20:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers In addition to the non staining of the interior. The SS interior will reflect t

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Douglas
In addition to the non staining of the interior. The SS interior will reflect the heating back onto the dishes for drying. Douglas -- From: "OK Don" Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:01 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" S

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Heated dry cycle is an electricity hog. When ours finishes I open the door and prop it with a clothes pin. I open the door and roll out the bottom rack. After the steam clears, I roll out the top rack. Then I make sure all the bowls are situated so they don't trap any wat

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Douglas
Yes I work for HD have for 18 years. Is the one you are looking at a Adora by GE? Douglas. -- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:57 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread OK Don
Has a plastic tub ever broken or leaked for you? Why pay a premium for the inside of a dishwasher??? DO you spend a lot of tie admiring the dishwasher tub? On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > you work for HD? Im thinking I want SS interior, and about the cheapest I > see

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you work for HD? Im thinking I want SS interior, and about the cheapest I see is in the 599 range. Douglas wrote: I sell em at home depot and they are all about the same for cleaning. If you replace they are only going to last 5-7 years these days. For quiet its really a matter of what type

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Douglas
I sell em at home depot and they are all about the same for cleaning. If you replace they are only going to last 5-7 years these days. For quiet its really a matter of what type on sound absorbing material they put on the outside of them. For me I'd buy the least expensive model that had SS int

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Heated dry cycle is an electricity hog. When ours finishes I open the door and prop it with a clothes pin. All the dishes are hot so they dry fine. -Curt Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:24:53 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If this thing has any screens, I have not seen them. I will investigate though. Curt Raymond wrote: Have you cleaned the internal screens? Rinsed it with CLR? We recently cleaned the screen on our 30 year old Kenmore, made it run like new again... -Curt Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:35:13 -0500

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Have you cleaned the internal screens? Rinsed it with CLR? We recently cleaned the screen on our 30 year old Kenmore, made it run like new again... -Curt Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:35:13 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers Message-ID: <4b9d5

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im not sure this thing ever really cleaned them very good even when new. pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Fix the Maytag. YOU have obstructed lines. plugged filter, non spinning wand, etc. There has been no relevant design change is home style dishwashers, you have a good machine and it's broken

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im talking about the customer reviews on Lowes website. John Reames wrote: Remember that reviews have favored Toyotas over Mercedes in the past... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
As far as I know I have never seen any filter assembly. Where might this be located on a maytag? dave walton wrote: Take apart the bottom filter assembly. There is a small hole that clogs and causes the accumulated food particles to dump back on the dishes rather than down the drain. -Dave Wa

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread pm7088
I do our dishes by hand. How else would I get them into the dishwasher. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "Mountain Man" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:36:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern S

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-15 Thread pm7088
Fix the Maytag. YOU have obstructed lines. plugged filter, non spinning wand, etc. There has been no relevant design change is home style dishwashers, you have a good machine and it's broken -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" To: "merced

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread John Reames
Remember that reviews have favored Toyotas over Mercedes in the past... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 14, 2010, at 21:24, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to Bosch, Kitchen and

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Mountain Man
rusty wrote: > Wash by hand. That is what we do. We? What type of fairy are you? Can I see your dishwater hands? Very good - I bet Mrs rusty sez you are a wonderful husband, if you do wash dishes. We do our dishes by hand also - not me, but us. mao ___ http://w

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas
The Bosch gets hot from the water, and you leave the door closed for some length of time and it dries the dishes. i don't think it has a separate heat blower to dry them. The instructions say to leave it closed for some length of time. --R On 3/14/2010 9:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I we

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread dave walton
Take apart the bottom filter assembly. There is a small hole that clogs and causes the accumulated food particles to dump back on the dishes rather than down the drain. -Dave Walton On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
Compare the prices that you find at Lowes with Sears - we found that Sears was at least $50 lower for the same model. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to Bosch, > Kitchen and, and a Frigidair. There were a

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to Bosch, Kitchen and, and a Frigidair. There were a few whirpool models that have the silver ware deal in the door, I kind of like that. I am thinking I want one with a stainless steel tub rather than plastic. Reading on lowes,

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Dieselhead
I bought a kitchenaid DW in 1980, and it was/is a good one, and still going. I'd talk to very experienced repair guys and ask them which they think is the best value. I have a friend who has been in the appliance repair business since he came up from underwater, and learned to live on dry la

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
We bought one laswt year to replace a worthless Maytag. Ended up with a Kenmore. The sales critter was showing us which Kenmores had the gots from which other makes - You could see the same guts if you looked carefully. It's quiet, much more so than any other one we've owned (this is the fifth, I t

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Buy a Bosch. They are on the expensive end but well worth it. Very quiet, do a great job, and all stainless steel inside. I bought one about 1.5 yr ago from Lowes, they had some kind of rebate on them, $50 if I recall. I think they are made in NC too, so domestic manufacture with Deutsche e

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Russ Williams
Both Daughter and S-I-L have Bosch dishwashers. Low Decibel and do a good job of cleaning. S-I-L's is about 8 years old and was one of the top of the line models. She hasn't had any problems with it. Daughter's is 2 years old a mid-price model No problems so far. Much quieter that S-I-L's. Rus

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread buymbparts
Wash by hand. That is what we do. --Original Message-- From: Redghost Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mar 14, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers Change your soap, clean the filter and sanitize. The

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro
I don't know too much about them but when I shop for a new one I'm going to compare decibel level. I hate our noisy one. Bob R On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the dishes, > which seems to get worse and wo

Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Redghost
Change your soap, clean the filter and sanitize. The next time you load the washer, do not cram it full. The recent brood of dishwashers is garbage. They have to meet new energy and enviro rules, which has made them less able to actually wash a dish. Best DW I have had is a 1976 KitchenA

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