Re: Mersenne: Mersenne M38

1999-07-08 Thread Herb Savage
>Actually, now that the exponent for M38 is known, I can say >that I had narrowed it down to 5 candidates (7 before the >Oregonian article). They were: >5,750,881 6,382,513 6,836,327 6,972,593 >7,143,163 7,213,391 7,310,981 George's original message said it was in th

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-08 Thread Herb Savage
At 08:25 AM 7/8/99 -0700, Eric Hahn wrote: >Fixing this one 'leak' won't do the job, if you know how >and where to look... It would have stopped me. >Besides, *some people* know how to keep quiet about certain >things. You didn't see this person going around announcing >it to the world immediat

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-08 Thread Eric Hahn
>NOW it does, after the official announcement Remember >when Roland found M37? Someone found a 0x000 >residue in the report and beat George to the punch, so Scott >modified the reports so that they would NOT post a zero >residue automatically. So THIS time, when word came t

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-06 Thread Jeff Woods
NOW it does, after the official announcement Remember when Roland found M37? Someone found a 0x000 residue in the report and beat George to the punch, so Scott modified the reports so that they would NOT post a zero residue automatically. So THIS time, when word came that

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-06 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 09:50:42PM -0700, Eric Hahn wrote: >>(Note to Scott - create a dummy non-zero residue a stick it >>in the cleared exponents report). >Too late!! The Cleared Exponents Report reads: I think he meant `next time' :-) /* Steinar */ ___

Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-05 Thread Eric Hahn
>(Note to Scott - create a dummy non-zero residue a stick it >in the cleared exponents report). Too late!! The Cleared Exponents Report reads: 6972593 62 P 0x 01-Jun-99 13:57 nayan precision-mm Unsubscribe &

Mersenne: Mersenne M38

1999-07-05 Thread Eric Hahn
>On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 07:45:11PM -0700, Eric Hahn wrote: >>It hasn't been announced yet... but from what little information >>that is available, i.e. The Oregonian newspaper article, the >>exponent must be =at least= 6,643,859. >Hmmm, my guess was at about 6,2 million, but nobody else guessed

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-05 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
At 07:19 05.07.99 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I'm curious - had this already been tested by >someone else using the defective v17 software? No. /* Steinar */ Unsubscribe & list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-05 Thread GivenRandy
I'm curious - had this already been tested by someone else using the defective v17 software? Randy Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.aol.com/GivenRandy public key at http://members.aol.com/GivenRandy/pgpkey.asc Unsubscribe & li

Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-04 Thread George Woltman
Hi all, As the newspaper should announce the new prime on Monday or Tuesday, I've placed the info on the new prime at http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm Congratulations to Nayan Hajratwala and all GIMPS members for our fourth success! Each Mersenne announcement is different. This

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Jeff Woods
At 08:04 AM 7/1/99 -0400, you wrote: >Well either that or I am *SEARCHER SUPREME*, but then I would have been >the first to find it, on Landon's site. > >I would assume that George would know since he probably gave the exponent >to him in the first place. There is a very short list of people tha

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Lucas Wiman
> Found it -- 2^6972593-1 :-) > Well, finding that in 30 seconds must mean you knew it was there, or you > were incredibly lucky... Does George know about this? Lucky. I went to yahoo.com and typed in 38th, and then stopped. I realized that I should look for the record holders, and through some

RE: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
At 14:10 01.07.99 +0200, Hoogendoorn, Sander wrote: >Try Landon Curt Noll Yes, I tried it after I send that message. The exponent is hardly secret now that even I can find it :-) /* Steinar */ Unsubscribe & list info -- http://www

RE: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Hoogendoorn, Sander
Took me a bit longer but has M38 has 2098960 digits ;-) At 02:21 01.07.99 -0400, Lucas Wiman wrote: >>The page belongs to a previous record holder... >Took me about 30 seconds to find it. >It's nice to see a thirty-eighth line in /root/math/ref/mers... I didn't! Am I _that_ bad at searching the

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Nicolau C. Saldanha
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > At 02:21 01.07.99 -0400, Lucas Wiman wrote: > >>The page belongs to a previous record holder... > >Took me about 30 seconds to find it. > >It's nice to see a thirty-eighth line in /root/math/ref/mers... > > I didn't! Am I _that_ bad at searching

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
At 08:32 01.07.99 -0300, Nicolau C. Saldanha wrote: >Try the other record holders, there are not too many of them. >You can find links to their home pages at www.mersenne.org. >http://www.mat.puc-rio.br/~nicolau Don't worry, I've found it already. Looks like I lost the guessing game... /* Steina

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Lucas Wiman
>>>The page belongs to a previous record holder... >>Took me about 30 seconds to find it. >>It's nice to see a thirty-eighth line in /root/math/ref/mers... >I didn't! Am I _that_ bad at searching the web? I looked at Gordon's page >and Roland's page (found nothing), but couldn't find Joel's page.

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
At 07:17 01.07.99 -0400, Lucas Wiman wrote: >You aren't searching for the right people. He didn't say it was a *GIMPS* >record holder. You've just gotta know where to look. Found it -- 2^6972593-1 :-) Well, finding that in 30 seconds must mean you knew it was there, or you were incredibly luc

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
At 07:17 01.07.99 -0400, Lucas Wiman wrote: >All right, here's a hint: he held the record for largest prime, which was also >a non-mersenne prime. Check the largest prime by year... David `Mr. Cray' himself? :-) /* Steinar */ U

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-07-01 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
At 02:21 01.07.99 -0400, Lucas Wiman wrote: >>The page belongs to a previous record holder... >Took me about 30 seconds to find it. >It's nice to see a thirty-eighth line in /root/math/ref/mers... I didn't! Am I _that_ bad at searching the web? I looked at Gordon's page and Roland's page (found n

Re: Mersenne: M38

1999-06-30 Thread Lucas Wiman
>The page belongs to a previous record holder... Took me about 30 seconds to find it. It's nice to see a thirty-eighth line in /root/math/ref/mers... -Lucas Wiman Unsubscribe & list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Mersenne: M38

1999-06-30 Thread Simon Burge
I notice that there's a page on the net somewhere that lists M38. I take it that this isn't meant to be public information yet? The page belongs to a previous record holder... Simon (guessing around 6972???, but then I know now :-). __

Re: Mersenne: M38 guess

1999-06-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Jun 30, 1999 at 07:43:33AM -0400, St. Dee wrote: >I'll guess p~=6,740,001 :-) I'd recommend using a prime, but that's your problem, of course. Well, nobody has gone _over_ your guess, so it probably doesn't matter. (In all other case, choosing the highest non-checked prime above 6,740,00

RE: Mersenne: M38 guess

1999-06-30 Thread Willmore, David
> > > Make my guess for M38, p~=6,740,000 > > > > I'll guess p~=6,740,001 :-) > > > > Kel > > I would like anyone betting on M38 tu use an exact exponent! > Not ~= blahblah > If u dont know any exact exponents, then check > http://www.entropia.com/primenet/cleared.txt > and pick one there that c

SV: Mersenne: M38 guess

1999-06-30 Thread Lars Lindley
> On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Ken Kriesel wrote: > > > Make my guess for M38, p~=6,740,000 > > I'll guess p~=6,740,001 :-) > > Kel I would like anyone betting on M38 tu use an exact exponent! Not ~= blahblah If u dont know any exact exponents, then check http://www.entropia.com/primenet/cleared.txt and

Re: Mersenne: M38 guess

1999-06-30 Thread St. Dee
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Ken Kriesel wrote: > Make my guess for M38, p~=6,740,000 I'll guess p~=6,740,001 :-) Kel Unsubscribe & list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Mersenne: M38 guess

1999-06-29 Thread Ken Kriesel
Make my guess for M38, p~=6,740,000 Ken Unsubscribe & list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Re: Mersenne: M38 in the news

1999-06-27 Thread Chip Lynch
This is a pretty good article... a few things I didn't know; someone should add a history section to the FAQ, for those of us that haven't been around too long. ;-) On the other hand, there are a few things that could be polished up in the article... to quote: "Although in theory an infinite n

RE: Mersenne: M38 in the news

1999-06-27 Thread Rick Pali
From: Luke Welsh > http://www.oregonlive.com/news/99/06/st062601.html Interesting article, but this particular line took me by surprise: "And if your computer doesn't find one, take heart. Kurowski plans to offer financial compensation to participants in distributed Internet computing networks w

Mersenne: M38 in the news

1999-06-27 Thread Luke Welsh
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/99/06/st062601.html Unsubscribe & list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Re: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff )

1999-06-14 Thread David L. Nicol
Chris Nash wrote: > maybe every electronic device in my house will be > squaring and subtracting 2 in its idle time. make that every stitch in your clothing David Nicol 816.235.1187 UMKC Network Operations [EMAIL PRO

Re: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI,and other random stuff )

1999-06-11 Thread Chris Nash
I'm on a roll tonight. Here's another one from me. Sorry guys, but this one was just too plain freaky to be a coincidence. > The technical term is "superconductor" and I can conceive it quite fine :-) > (This will probably provoke more cryonics postings.) I can see it now, George will be asking

Re: [Re: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff )]

1999-06-11 Thread Paul Derbyshire
Chris Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 10^12Hz... wow! Can you imagine the technical innovation needed to get a > machine where light only travels 0.3mm in a clock cycle? That's some > densely packed, erm, stuff... probably not silicon, the sort of thing > we probably can't conceive right now (e

Re: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff )

1999-06-11 Thread Chris Nash
Once again my apologies for lowering the tone, and many thanks for some sensible and thought-provoking responses! > Following conservative estimates of cpu power and number of participants > doubling every two years, I'd guess that we will have a our first billion > digit prime in 2021, when we

Re: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff

1999-06-11 Thread Nicolau C. Saldanha
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Chris Nash wrote: > Hi folks, > > As we all impatiently await verification of M38(?) a really stupid thought > occurred to me, so apologies if it's a lot more ignorant than Chuck W.'s > "definitive" post on the subject of GIMPS v SETI, or distributed computing > in general. >

RE: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff )

1999-06-11 Thread St. Dee
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Colin Percival wrote: > > So we are about 7.5*10^10 P90 years away from our first billion digit prime. > Following conservative estimates of cpu power and number of participants > doubling every two years, I'd guess that we will have a our first billion > digit prime in 20

RE: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff )

1999-06-10 Thread Colin Percival
At 07:49 PM 10/06/99 -0700, you wrote: >> > My apologies for being so inane, but I wonder whether the EFF *b*illion >> > digit prime prize or SETI will happen first, too... >> > [Gilmore, John (AZ75)] Unless someone comes up with a MUCH faster > algorithm, or a parallelizable algorit

Re: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff

1999-06-10 Thread Spike Jones
Chris Nash wrote: > If the verification of M38 is making us impatient, how on earth would we > feel if SETI did find E.T., and we had to wait thousands of years for our... If SETI found a signal, antennae all over the planet would focus on it and large numbers of brains would consume themselves

RE: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff )

1999-06-10 Thread Aaron Blosser
> [Gilmore, John (AZ75)] Unless someone comes up with a MUCH faster > algorithm, or a parallelizable algorithm, since a 90 GHz Pentium > would > take (to one significant figure) 80 years to test _one_ exponent, my > guess > would be SETI (assuming, of course, that there ac

RE: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff )

1999-06-10 Thread Gilmore, John (AZ75)
> > -Original Message- > > From: Chris Nash [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 8:32 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff > > > > My apologies for being

RE: Inane Stuff (Was: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff)

1999-06-10 Thread Gilmore, John (AZ75)
e- > From: Chris Nash [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 8:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff > > Hi folks, > > As we all impatiently await verification of M38(?) a really stupid thought > oc

Mersenne: M38, SETI, and other random stuff

1999-06-10 Thread Chris Nash
Hi folks, As we all impatiently await verification of M38(?) a really stupid thought occurred to me, so apologies if it's a lot more ignorant than Chuck W.'s "definitive" post on the subject of GIMPS v SETI, or distributed computing in general. If the verification of M38 is making us impatient,