Here are my ideas on bugs: Bugs happen! They're a fact of life,
omnipresent in all software.
Showstopper bugs should not slip through testing and into release
software.
Correct: _should_ not. That does not mean _will_ not. Mistakes
happen, at least as often as accidents. If
To everyone reading (and answering) this subject:
The guy is trolling. We are all going into his troll. (This is proven by the fact that
he just *wont* stop.)
Trolling is a technique used on the News lists since long time. Sometimes with
disastrous result for the list. It's been quite rare on
At 03:53 PM 6/6/99 +0200, you wrote:
To everyone reading (and answering) this subject:
The guy is trolling. We are all going into his troll. (This is proven by the
fact that he just *wont* stop.)
I agree, he's trolling. He claimed to be a programmer, but then over and
over he claimed that
From: Gustav Schaffter
The guy is trolling. We are all going into his troll. (This
is proven by the fact that he just *wont* stop.)
Amen to that. No one can possibly thing that *everything* works from their
point of view and everyone else's view is wrong or unimportant. I would
think that
I second that.
At 16:33 06/06/1999 +0100, you wrote:
NO MORE. The end..
Chris Jefferson, Girton College, Cambridge, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2.
However, it won't
Stephen Whitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He claimed to be a programmer, but then over and over he claimed that
bugs should *always* be caught in testing, prior to release. That
proves he's lying, because no programmer can believe that happens in
the real world.
A complete set of test-cases
Peter Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is normal. Because of the bug in v17, all the math it was doing
was wrong, so using that 77% would have been a waste since it was
incorrect data. There is no need to try and retrieve that data. It's
useless.
Are you sure of that? What if the
If what you say is true, then whoever designed version 17 acted in a
completely unconscionably rash manner by releasing it without thoroughly
testing it for problems as serious as that. And has therefore shot the whole
GIMPS effort in the foot by setting it back many weeks.
Hopefully,
Well, you've dropped the annoying Mandelbrot quote, but you're still trying
to stir up trouble on my favorite mailing list.
In a message dated 6/5/99 10:27:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Are you sure of that? What if the bug didn't happen to strike my run, or the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, you've dropped the annoying Mandelbrot quote, but you're still
trying to stir up trouble on my favorite mailing list.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble. However, between your insulting of my sig
file (absent temporarily, due to my ISP's mail trouble and my
From: Paul Derbyshire
and your accusing me of flame-baiting, I begin
to suspect that you, who I formerly had not even
noticed, are in fact trying to flame-bait the list.
I don't think that anyone's trying to flame anyone at all, but I can't
Evidently you haven't been monitoring the list.
Paul Derbyshire wrote:
Sounds like a lot to me. This CPU I have can finish LL tests in that kind of
time, except that I have a habit of using it for other things a lot of the
time.
It may seem like a long time to you, but I've been interested in Mersenne
Primes as an observer since around
All,
alright, everybody break it up!
Well, you've dropped the annoying Mandelbrot quote, but you're still
trying to stir up trouble on my favorite mailing list.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble. However, between your insulting of my sig
file (absent temporarily, due to my ISP's mail
"Rick Pali" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think that anyone's trying to flame anyone at all, but I can't
[the rest is missing]
???
... might it not be a good idea to ask to be apprised of the situation
before accusing the very people who make all this possible of
being "completely
Paul Derbyshire wrote:
Sounds like a lot to me. This CPU I have can finish LL tests in
that kind of
time, except that I have a habit of using it for other things a
lot of the
time.
It may seem like a long time to you, but I've been interested in Mersenne
Primes as an observer since
Here are my ideas on bugs:
Bugs happen! They're a fact of life, omnipresent in all software.
Showstopper bugs should not slip through testing and into release software.
Bugs should allways be caught in the testing, but so often they aren't.
Minor bugs yes, massive showstoppers no.
In the
My motivation is to help. This spectacular bug caused some of my help to have
been wasted.
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On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 11:07:04PM -0600, Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erm? Regardless of when I found out, it remains a fact that to release
non-beta software to the general public without a thorough testing *is* a rash
act.
The software *was* tested - the testing missed this
This is normal. Because of the bug in v17, all the math it was doing was
wrong, so using that 77% would have been a waste since it was incorrect
data. There is no need to try and retrieve that data. It's useless.
--Peter
At 04:11 06/04/1999 -0600, you wrote:
Before the upgrade, I was 77% of
Before the upgrade, I was 77% of the way through an exponent in the 7M area.
Now it says 0%. It looks like it couldn't read older versions' save files and
started over! How do I recover that 77%? (I assume it would have to be checked
to see if the version 17 error struck it, and either corrected
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