Looks to be at least 50km off the coast over the North Sea.
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On 2/20/2024 3:53 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list wrote:
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uk meteor w/ at least one fragmentation--
https
The same author at that outlet was using camels only three weeks ago…..
Asteroid the size of 112 camels to pass Earth Wednesday - NASA - The Jerusalem
Post (jpost.com) <https://www.jpost.com/science/article-733651>
Regards, Chris Monrad
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From: &qu
Meteorites have now been recovered.
Models suggest a single main mass of around 1kg from the terminal
explosion and multiple small pieces from earlier fragmentation events
along the meteor path.
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It was heading generally eastward over the Channel and was still burning
when it crossed the French shoreline. It is likely to have dropped
meteorites on land.
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On 2/14/2023 3:29 AM, Graham
To be fair, we are sitting right now on a planet worth a lot more than
that! And we don't have to go anywhere to investigate it.
Resource quantity isn't really the problem. It's accessing those resources.
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Hey guys,
Just want to check in to see if we have more information on a landing in
central Indiana. The state is still trying to figure out the mystery
explosion/boom that cannot be explained. My first thought was an object
crashing to earth.
Here are a couple of articles. So far, a couple of
Chemical or liquid stain of some sort. Not part of the photographic image.
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On 3/25/2022 2:09 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list wrote:
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To add…the hot tub is quite loud with the jets running.
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> On Jan 19, 2022, at 8:24 PM, Chris Friedman
> wrote:
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> I saw this article from 2018 when I was looking for news about my sighting.
> I was not aware of the 2018 sighting. Maybe we are in a h
ote:
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> Hello Chris
>
> Did you hear anything during the event?
>
> https://www.meteorite-times.com/the-noblesville-meteorite-a-cosmic-contrast-of-young-and-old/
>
> Best,
> Martin
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>
>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:10 PM Chris Friedman via Meteorite-list
anywhere nearby.
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On 1/20/2022 7:32 AM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote:
What velocity range to meteors decelerate to when they enter dark flight? It
someone sees it breakup directly overhead (i.e. prior t
If you saw it break up near the horizon, any meteorites produced are 100
miles or more away from you. For meteorites to be within a few miles of
your location you would have seen it break up directly overhead.
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local news or social media about the sighting. If you are a serious
hunter of meteorites and would like to reach out to me for more info, send me
an email.
Thanks!
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property. The owner of the property typically has no claim to the
vehicle wreckage.
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On 4/3/2021 9:24 AM, Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list wrote:
I have not seen a Federal Regulation pert
kids' game where you
dare somebody to keep their back to you while you touch the back of
their neck with a hot iron, and then actually touch them with an ice
cube? Most people startle and believe you've burned them.
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On 11/29/2020 5:35 AM, Steinar Midtskogen via Meteorite-list wrote:
Another one peaking much, much brighter than the full moon last
myself for provenance
purposes. If you have any questions at all feel free to ask!
Have an excellent night and thanks for any and all consideration
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possible to derive actual information about the energy dissipated in the
atmosphere and delivered to the ground.
Typical kinetic energies for fireball events like this may be on the
order of 10^11 joules or more- say, 100 tons TNT equivalent.
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as in "only every few hundred or thousand years".)
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On 1/17/2018 7:22 AM, Greg Redfern via Meteorite-list wrote:
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Has there been other bolide events that have had a seismic cor
Hope this cleared some of the questions up.
Regards,
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On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:49 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
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> No Adam,
>
> I just gave some praise towards you, to someone. However,
>
> I'm in no
Almost certainly not a Taurid.
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On 11/17/2017 1:40 PM, Finbarr Connolly via Meteorite-list wrote:
Hello,
These Taurid fireballs are really putting on a show, here's yet another one
-
No, this isn't spam in the usual sense. It's clearly directed towards
meteor and meteorite people- long rants about how unfair the meteorite
classification system is. It's somebody who is very disgrunted, or
mentally ill. Or both.
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A weird little dialog between that sender and another at yeah.net has
been getting sent to the IMO info email address for the last week or so.
Complete lunacy, apparently.
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On 8/12/2017 2:18
If you see a meteor that appears to strike the ground, it's probably
over 100 miles away. Maybe much more. That's because they stop burning
when they're a few tens of miles high.
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simply didn't have enough time for that process to proceed
beyond the outer few millimeters.
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On 6/29/2016 1:29 AM, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list wrote:
Elton...I agree with most of that..
is warm on landing.
The interior will be cold, and the outer few millimeters might be near
ambient, simply because of the warmer air encountered over the last
minute or so of dark flight. But within a minute I'd expect the outside
to get colder again because of transfer to the cold in
ast that with a meteorite: much smaller surface area compared with
volume, low thermal conductivity, very high speed of impact, and very
little friction (with most of the surface never even contacting the roof).
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ce from the fireball to the witness.
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On 11/4/2015 8:25 PM, Doug Ross wrote:
Thanks for the very informative and interesting discussion. Could the altitude,
angle and distance from which a m
information in a complete report.
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On 11/4/2015 4:48 PM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list wrote:
Hi John,
I think there are definitely things that can be learned by looking at the
spectrosc
mplex, so there's no simple correlation between these
things and color that we can make much use of.
Common groups of factors tend to lead to common colors, which is why we
see specific colors with specific showers.
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ponents (often too subtly for people to report accurately), and that
above all, it's almost impossible to make any assumptions about
meteoroid composition from color.
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On 11/4/2015 5:21 A
Look closely at the full resolution video and you can see the meteor's
wings flapping!
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On 4/16/2015 10:48 PM, Stephen Thompson via Meteorite-list wrote:
Nice catch !!..The motion,
, and by extension for the terrestrial atmosphere."
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On 12/12/2014 1:50 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote:
I am curious how such a definitive conclusion can be reached from the
a
It's certainly real. That's a typical meteor train dissipation pattern.
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On 11/19/2014 7:17 PM, Robert Woolard via Meteorite-list wrote:
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One of our local radio stations posted
I caught this nearly overhead from central Colorado on my camera. I
believe it was probably the decaying COSMOS 2495 (Norad 39732). I should
have two angles on it tomorrow confirming that this was not a meteor.
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Nope, I think not.
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On 5/27/2014 4:52 PM, Art Jones via Meteorite-list wrote:
In the news from this am:
An Ohio man believes a meteorite hit his car early Sunday morning. Joe Massa of
If I click "Reply
list" (which I'm using here) it just goes to the list email. No need to
manually paste anything in.
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On 5/9/2014 7:09 AM, Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list wr
value).
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On 4/14/2014 1:54 PM, Matson, Rob D. wrote:
Hi Chris/Shawn/All,
There is obviously something squirrely going on in that generated orbit.
For one thing, look at the error bars on the vel
odels demonstrate that it's not difficult for a small
body to drop a few rocks on the ground without ever depositing the sort
of energy into the atmosphere we associate with bright fireballs lasting
several seconds and producing audible acoustics at ground level.
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minal explosion or multiple fragmentation events along their paths
warrant close examination as potential meteorite producers.
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On 4/13/2014 4:47 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
Hi Shawn, This is a fairly n
.
Suffice to say, last night's meteor showed the characteristics of a low
to medium speed parent body- something between 11 km/s and say 40 km/s.
What is the source of the data you are using for your calculations?
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; who understand the difference
between disproving an theory and simply finding a much better one.
Frankly, I think we're the ones with the best tuned BS filters.
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On 4/10/2014 12:41 PM,
ections in the optics from the eyes of the deer.
No such solid refutation has been produced for the Norway video. In
fact, I haven't seen any refutation at all, only evidence for a much
more likely scenario.
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remembering. If this had been trivially rejected
from the beginning, no analysis would have been performed, and that
would be unfortunate.
And that's getting real.
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On 4/10/2014 11:
than honest and reasonable- a video that accidentally captured something
that might reasonably be interpreted as a falling meteorite.
Even if some piece of evidence actually disproved that hypothesis, we
should simply say that it was "disproved", not "debunked".
Chris
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Seems pretty normal. While there's still at least a reasonable
possibility of a meteorite, I'd expect a lot of chatter among people
interested in meteorites. Once it's demonstrated that the meteorite
explanation is extremely unlikely, people move on. What's left
The hypothesis has not been debunked by NASA.
I hardly think the parachutists are making things up. I just think
they're a bit confused about how science works.
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On 4/9/2014 4:59 PM, Mi
The apparent trajectory, size, shape, and albedo are all reasonable for
a meteorite. More importantly, none of the physical parameters are
inconsistent with a meteorite, so the hypothesis remains valid, simply
very unlikely.
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unwarranted.
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On 4/9/2014 4:23 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
Actually it seems NASA has debunked it and they parachutists themselves admit
it is a stone from the parachute, which I said from moment one
omething
trapped in the parachute, and given the odds against capturing an image
of a falling meteorite, that's by far the most likely possibility. But a
meteorite remains a possibility, although not a likely one.
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Suppose a fusion crusted stone is found shortly after a fireball. When
examined it shows a celestial age of a few million years and a relatively short
formation age. More examination shows it to be a stone formed on earth,
ejected into space and returned here. Is it meteorite or a meteorwrong
The jumper already has his shoot open. An expert diver with a high
performance shoot could still be going very fast, of course, but in all
likelihood there would be a pretty good delta-v in this case (it looks
like his jumping partner sails past pretty quickly still in free fall).
Chris
Of course, as I said earlier, there are much more likely scenarios than
a meteorite. I was just taking exception with any blind assertion that
this was fake, absent clear evidence of such.
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It certainly could be a hoax. If so, however, it's instructional,
because it seems technically accurate. Most people trying to fake
something like this would probably have flames and smoke coming off the
object. That's what we typically see with fake
Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly
slowly with respect to terminal velocity.
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On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote:
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:
Daytime fireballs are easily missed, and small meteorites can be
produced with neither a significant fireball nor any audible atmospheric
acoustics. A fireball would have been several minutes earlier, and most
acoustics as well.
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27;d think that between the front and back cameras,
calculating a ground position could be done with pretty high accuracy.
The area they were searching on the video seemed much too large.
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On 4/3/201
ng", on nothing more than statistical uncertainty.
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On 4/3/2014 9:51 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his
pack came out w
plays a
role as well. This makes meteor spectra very useful. But human color vision
being what it is (our eyes being very poor spectrometers), it isn't possible to
accurately determine meteoroid composition visually.
Chris
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cesses are operating.
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On 1/25/2014 7:54 AM, Francesco Moser wrote:
Hi all!
I have a question for you regarding falling stars and fireballs!
Which is the physical process that heats a meteoro
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On 1/12/2014 9:25 PM, drtanuki wrote:
List,
Colorado Fireball 12JAN2014
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/01/colorado-meteor-12jan2014.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
ments.
(Just something to think about; context is everything. )
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installed as a component of Windows. You can select a font, copy
individual existing characters, modify them, and save them to a new
character code.
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On 12/27/2013 5:25 PM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote
et invited back.
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On 11/8/2013 5:06 PM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote:
Jacob, my 12 year old son, has a class called "Weird Science" and asked me to
present to his class about meteorites. I w
would have arrived at the ground above terminal velocity, and
we'd treat it as a much more ordinary event. Nothing like a few craters
to make a fall seem much more energetic than it actually was.
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This meteor was caught on two of our network cameras. Preliminary
information is at http://www.cloudbait.com/science/fireball20131023.html
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On 10/23/2013 10:26 PM, drtanuki wrote:
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x27;t stimulate our red sensors enough to show
color. So we see a "red" nebula as "green".
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On 9/10/2013 12:51 PM, Doug Ross wrote:
Thank you for the explanation, Chris. I ha
the total luminous energy, which means they don't have
much effect on the color ("color" being a physiological phenomenon, not
a physical one).
This isn't to say there might not be some cases where meteoroid
composition is reflected in the color, but you can't
Duration is not a reliable way to distinguish between meteors and space
junk. You can only do that using velocity, which is difficult to do from
one vantage point. I've recorded re-entering debris that only glowed for
a few seconds.
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"Analyse" is a perfectly acceptable spelling, and is the standard way of
spelling the word in British English.
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On 5/2/2013 10:46 AM, Adam Hupe wrote:
Then there is also the puz
ically called a "meteor" (something
the IAU is considering formalizing last I heard).
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Michael Mulgrew wrote:
>A "meteor" can't collide with anything!
>
&
t the acceleration of gravity changes with height, and therefore the
weight changes as well, since the mass is invariant (except for the
little detail of ablation...)
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On 4/9/2013 3:08 PM, Michael Mu
at much
higher pressures than are present around a meteor.
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On 3/31/2013 4:56 PM, William Feek wrote:
Hi All,
Do the diamonds in Ureilites undergo ablation, and if so, what does the crust
on them lo
So if they land on the Earth meteors become Meteorites, whether or not
they hit anything besides the ground! I guess the one
found on Mars is a Marseorite!
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On 3/26/2013 2:21 PM, Marc Fries wrote:
Howdy ladies and gents
The scientists at Galactic Analytics have been working on a project behind the
scenes
es place, and a good deal more is known about the body that exploded
over Chelyabinsk.
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On 3/25/2013 8:31 PM, Kelly Beatty wrote:
Chris...
It's extremely doubtful that this body coul
The time delay between the airburst and the shock arriving at the
ground, directly beneath the burst, was about 90 seconds (not 11),
making the height about 28 km.
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On 3/25/2013 10:31 PM, Don
esting
scientific reasons for detecting bodies like this, there isn't much of a
public safety case to be made.
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On 3/25/2013 8:10 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
I was just in Chelyabinsk, a cit
and property from
small asteroids is absurdly small compared to a large number of other
things that we actually have some control over.
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On 3/25/2013 3:15 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
Congratu
Came across a similar one in an Allende Thin section (which I no longer
have).
See: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1992JRASC..861R
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It it's suspended before it strikes, is it a "meteorite" or a "meteoroid"?
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On 3/12/2013 8:59 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:
All ancient life-beari
miss.
Bottom line, this isn't something worth worrying about.
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On 3/10/2013 4:19 PM, Don Merchant wrote:
Hi List. Just wanted to post a thought. Here is a link of which a piece
of Chinese spa
h the heavy components farther back along
the meteor path than the light ones- not because they started that way,
but because they were blown that way.
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On 3/6/2013 2:37 PM, Peter Richards wrote:
the
seller my opinion on his items in my very best "diplomatic language".
I, for now, will wait until one of the dealers I know has some of this fall
in stock, at a price I can afford, whether from a dealer's listing on EBay,
or from
-type, which I don't think is sufficient information to make
any association to an existing potential parent asteroid.
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On 3/1/2013 8:59 AM, MEM wrote:
Chris or Others?
Has a family or pos
use it was materially stronger, and because it
didn't explode until it was much lower.
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On 2/27/2013 10:42 AM, Carl Agee wrote:
Hi Chris,
Do you have any references you could point me t
ormation on possible material comes not from how the meteor breaks
up, but from the deceleration profile and mass estimates.
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On 2/27/2013 11:52 AM, Pict wrote:
Chris,
Working on oil and gas we
produce an impressive sonic
wave, and probably further disrupts the meteoroid itself.
I don't that there are any electrical forces of a significant size to
affect the structure or motion of the meteoroid, although atmospheric
electrical effects probably occur (e.g. electroph
ases do we have a recovered orbit
for a meteorite fall, allowing for the possibility of recognizing the
parent body's orbital classification as well.
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On 2/26/2013 4:26 AM, lebof...@lpl.ar
, lens distortion, and various sensor artifacts. It's
hard to actually locate the center of the meteor from such data.
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On 2/25/2013 5:56 PM, Steve Dunklee wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/
g are the product
of various artifacts, both visual and photographic. Also possible are
atmospheric effects related to the supersonic shockwave or compression
zone. But not a physical body, I think.
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ginal orbit of the body is unambiguously determinable. We can always
say with near complete certainty whether a given meteor is associated
with a particular body, and with absolute certainty when it is not.
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I'm surprised you're interested in meteorites, since you clearly lack
even the most basic understanding of meteor radiants- and clearly are
unwilling to learn from people who actually know something.
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n the vast majority of cases, the height of disruption is above 30 km,
but the actual point depends on the total mass, composition, and
structure of the meteoroid.
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On 2/16/2013 8:27 PM, E.P. Gro
If the object was a Carbonaceous type or a small comet there may not be
much to find of anything. Tagish Lake fell on the ice
but if it had fallen through what would be left to find?
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The posted orbit for the Russian meteor doesn't resemble in any way 2012
DA14. There is a difference of 7 degrees in the
inclination alone - about 4 degrees for the meteor and 2012 DA's
inclination is 11.6 degrees.
Both the Node and Arg Peri are also different.
Chris. Spratt
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there seems to be no reasonable or
likely scenario that could explain these bodies being related. But the
odds of two such bodies being where they were at that time are not
particularly long at all.
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them to deviate so much in their
orbits- meaning that it would still be a coincidence that they arrived
at the same time.
There is no reasonable or likely mechanism for a body to split and
produce products with radically different orbits.
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y nut,
knock yourself out (as well as your so-called anonymous "expert"). These
events were unrelated. That is as certain as anything can be.
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On 2/16/2013 12:04 PM, Bjorn Sorheim wro
My goodness. What is it about a meteor that brings so many crazies out
of the woodwork?
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On 2/16/2013 6:41 AM, noakes wrote:
What's wrong with this picture. Sonic booms (multiple) , clo
would require first separating them, and then subjecting each
to a different history of three-body interactions.
If the "foremost" celestial mechanics expert in your country says the
two are similar, he is not competent. I don't notice him speaking out.
Chris
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