New meteorite collectors on this list may be interested in purchasing a copy of
my book dedicated to this endeavor. Please visit
www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com. I am grateful that world-wide sales have
been steady during the two years since it was published, and that the book has
been fav
New meteorite collectors on this list may be interested in purchasing a copy of
my book dedicated to this endeavor. Please visit
www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com. I am grateful that world-wide sales have
been steady during the two years since it was published, and that the book has
been fav
There are only a few more signed and numbered copies of my book, "The Art of
Collecting Meteorites" left to be distributed. As I write this, there are 18
hours left to bid on eBay for copy #444 of 500. As prices for this First
Edition have been climbing, (thank you!) all of the remaining sig
Ron Baalke continues to provide us valuable information published everywhere
in the world about meteorites. An article he just cited titled, "Mars
Meteorite Similar to Bacteria-etched Earth Rocks" caught my attention.
Writer Mark Floyd heralds another clue in the ongoing search for
extra-t
I apologize for embracing so tardily the nomination of Steve Arnold and
Geoff Notkin for the "People's Choice Award". I don't keep up with the list in
"real time".
I would like to add my whole-hearted approval to Greg Hupe's idea and
nomination and would like to offer a few "at-a-boys", "cu
List Members:
I'm down to the last 100 copies of my book "The Art of Collecting
Meteorites" that will be signed and numbered. Copies can be purchased at:
_www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com_
(http://www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com)
As some of you know, this is a self-published wo
Sales of my book "The Art of Collecting Meteorites" remain steady, and I
will be numbering and signing only about another 100 copies.
I was pleased to have the book reviewed in the December, 2005 issue of Sky &
Telescope and have been informed that another review will appear in a
meteorit
On Sept 28 at 8PM looking to the SE from my driveway in Fort Myers I
observed two parallel "stars" of about -2.0 magnitude. I called over a neighbor
to
look, as this was not part of any constellation or planet.
We saw first one, then the other fade out completely without movement during
th
For those interested in numerology, the winner of my eBay auction for signed
copy #333 of "The Art of Collecting Meteorites" has apparently declined to
follow-though with the purchase, so I am offering it again here.
If anyone on the list would like to purchase this particular copy, email me
The winds of soon-to-be Hurricane Dennis (the Menace) will hit Jamaica
tomorrow, mon. And they will likely build until they reach a Cat 3 storm
(111-130mph/ 177- 208 kph) this weekend here off the SW coast of Florida. This
is the
earliest record, going back to 1851, of four named storms by J
If anyone knows with 100% absolute certainty the curators of the national
meteorite collections in London and Paris, please email me off list with
particulars.
Thank you.
Kevin Kichinka
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I am in the process of writing the conclusion to "The Fall in France", part
one being in the current issue of "Meteorite".
It would be helpful for me to know if anyone has had the opportunity to
privately view the Natural History Museum's historic meteorites, L'Aigle,
Chassi
gny, Orgueil
Guten nacht, Martin (and list members):
I noted your reference on the m-list to "CRW" - catalogue repository weight.
This is my invention and a tool to better assess the available universe of
old and/or historic meteorites when trying to predict value.
It is not difficult to calculate. Jus
Thanks to Mike Jensen for the heads-up on the paper newly published by Dr.
Jeff Grossman and Adrian Brearley refining the measurement of classification
for chondrites.
In the last couple of days, including today, I've been working on a feature
for "Meteorite" magazine that includes discussi
My latest work, "The Art of Collecting Meteorites" has been out for almost
three months. I am gratified at the positive reception it has received. Quite a
few people have chosen to purchase additional copies to keep aside in "mint
condition" or to share as gifts. Dealers of minerals and meteo
Re: The Care and Feeding of "The Art of Collecting Meteorites."
Not-to-Worry Dept. - All books sent to USA addresses have "Delivery
Confirmation" attached. Thanks to our US Postal Service, books sent as early
as
February 8 reached their destination on February 10..or not yet. Pardon
All orders for "The Art of Collecting Meteorites" received from individuals
and dealers as of 12:00PM EST today, Monday, February 14, are winging around
the world as we speak.
There is still time to order a signed and numbered copy and this can be
accomplished by looking at:
_www.thea
For those who ordered my new book, "The Art of Collecting Meteorites," it
has arrived via land transport here in SW Florida and I am working
day-and-night
packing and shipping orders.
The orders are being filled in the sequence they came in. Those who paid via
Paypal on January 23 and 2
In the first ninety-six hours it has been on sale, more than one-hundred and
fifty members of this list ordered my new book, "The Art of Collecting
Meteorites." I am humbled and honored by your response.
Geoff Notkin viewed the final proof yesterday and is pleased. The quality
exceeds ou
All meteorite enthusiasts are invited to preview my new book.
It has been almost three years since I began this project, and along the
way, a very select group have offered their kind assistance.
Dr. Joel Schiff carefully edited the manuscript.
O. Richard Norton provided a momentum-buildi
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Dear List-members -
1.Are there any labs, museums or Universities in Europe presently examining alleged
meteorites simply for authenticity, NOT classification, and subsequently returning the
true-or-false specimen without a charge for the service?
2. The website for the IMCA (International Met
In the upcoming February issue of "Meteorite" I am publishing a feature proving that William Thomson (1761-1806) discovered the "Widmanstatten Pattern" four years prior to Widmanstatten.
Thomson found it when he etched the Krasnojarsk PAL.
If anyone has a quality digital image of the "Thomson
Open Letter to Mike Farmer:
I've just got around to reading your letters of the weekend to the list and myself. You have insulted and threatened me on this list.
I am puzzled by some of your statements. I want to answer some of your questions. I demand an explanation or an apology with my na
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Bob Evans:
I don't recognize your name, aside from being a restaurant with daily "early bird " specials, and would encourage you in the future to research the people you address before directing ignorant, child-like public messages in their direction.
FYI - I've twice
A couple of items about Mike Farmer's journey:
1. All "meteorites are deemed owned by the Geological Survey of India, without compensation." Adam Hupe tells me that he didn't visit India for a recovery effort because he couldn't obtain a permit. It is Mike's responsibility to be aware of local
Dear fellow travelers,
I've been to Calcutta twice on my trips to Nepal and since there seems to be some interest in the city I'll contribute a few written snapshots. Mike's a lucky guy to be there.
Mike has already noted the flooded streets. Like many Asian cities that are at or a few meters
Having recently purchased a 2mm thick slice of Gujba, I'm wondering what special care I need to take to store it, i.e., will the metal "chondrules" rust. Has anyone in the group had a problem with this one.
Thank you,
Kevin Kichinka
Thank you to Bernd, Piper Hollier, Mike Jensen, Norbert Klassen, Peter Marmet, Peter Scherff, Bjorn Sorheim and David Weir for taking a moment to track down a "Bolivia-wrong" for me.
And under the category of "Teach a man to fish." next time, I now know where to look up this type of info.
The H.H.Nininger Collection of Meteorites (1933 version) lists a meteorite that I find no where else in the literature. It'll be obvious to many on the list why I would like to know about this.
"Ollague, Bolivia, South America. Pallasite. P. Found 1924. Known Wt. 6.66 Kgs. Specimen:146a. 376 gr
For the first time in months I have a chance to contribute to the m-list. I've got two or three lives going at the same time these days leaving little time for mischief.
A few months ago we were treated by an esteemed list member with a game of meteorite names that were scrambled to form small
It is telling that Mr. Baalke is reminded of the thoroughly discredited N-dog story* by today's dubious claim that a meteorite has fallen and burned a hut in India. The first reports indicate that no meteorites have been found in the hut.
Perhaps this will become another example of Mr. Baalke's
I've been too far from electricity most of this year to contribute to the list, but for the moment I'm plugged in.
Heads up. Early Tuesday AM, Mars will be around one degree from the Moon for Western USA observers.
That's truly a Kodak moment.
Kevin Kichinka
I just had a conversation with Blaine Reed about the latest fall near Chicago. Blaine has a degree in geology (cum laude) and is quite good at classifying rocks from here and beyond. I wondered if he knew if this latest-and-greatest was an LL6, L6, anomolous achondrite w/attached dumbbell tectites,
We have a "lost" meteorite. Weighing in at 470 grams, completely crusted.
Stands well on one end, resembling a monolith. Disappeared in last 60 days
from owner in Australia.
Owner not looking to recover stone or money, just information. Please call
Blaine Reed @ (970) 874.1487.
Kevin Kichinka
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We have a "lost" meteorite. Weighing in at 470 grams, completely crusted.
Stands well on one end, resembling a monolith. Disappeared in last 60 days
from owner in Australia.
Owner not looking to recover stone or money, just information. Please call
Blaine Reed @ (970) 87
Readers of the list may recall reports a couple of months ago from several
towns in Florida and South Carolina of "earthquakes" and mysterious, rolling
ground waves.
At the time, the US Air Force claimed that no craft had set off sonic booms
(often done during training over the Gulf of Mexico)
If anyone has a copy of the above catalogue and is willing to entertain a few
questions from me about its contents for an upcoming submission to
"Meteorite", please contact me off-list.
If anyone wants to sell one, I'll entertain offers.
Thank you,
Kevin Kichinka
Geoff:
I sure missed being in Tucson this year with all of my friends because of business I
(still) have here in Costa Rica, but was able to keep in touch by all the postings
placed by others. I even missed sleeping on Blaine´´s hotel room floor where the
layers of crud on the unwashed carpet c
Item 1 - The mystery of the continuing rumblings around Florida is quite
intriguing. I've personally experienced two such events here in SW Florida
while working at the computer in a very quiet environment. Both times, there
was a sense of approaching subterranean rolling thunder, seemingly
ori
Whoops, please note the above in the afore mentioned package.
No more coffee after breakfast for me.
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Here's a package of miscellany that should appeal to a beginning collector
looking for micros and "filler" specimens. I've included more than meteorites
in the "spirit" of the upcoming Tucson Rock and Gem Show.
The entire package of fifteen items plus bonus is $219, including U.S.P.S.
w/trace
Many of us get a chance to investigate freshly reported meteorite falls of
which 99.99% are quickly resolved. Here's one that's going to remain a
mystery.
I've just spoken with a 72-year-old gentleman who believes that a meteorite
fell through his R.V.
All of the information contained herein
Those using AOL may have seen the photos shown here tonight labeled "Earth as
Art." For those who haven't, paste the below reference for a surprising view
of the Bolivian Amazon Basin.
Blaine Reed and I took two trips to Bolivia in an ultimately successful
search for the country's first authent
>From Nininger's "Find a Falling Star" we know he used eyewitness accounts and
survey techniques to successfully predict where fragments of "Sioux County"
(Eucrite) would be found. After-the-fact calculations were made for Paragould
and Pasamonte to determine the size of their strewnfields.
"..
Are they "heard" on AM or FM?
Tuning in tonite from a front row seat,
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Sold in Bag..."Gold Basin".
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Big One?
Gibeon.
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She is mine, she is mine -
Ensisheim.
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Of course alien shit's OK. Everyone's shit's OK.
(Sikhote Alin...)
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Rubin's All Mad? (How cruel, Jeff)
No, he's.Mundrabilla.
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Than move to "Canyon Diablo".
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Could list member Steve Drummond please contact me privately? I don't have
your phone or email address in my files and I'd like to correspond with you.
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Contest #8
Before I flame out into that great strewnfield in the sky, I have two places
I need to visit in a meteoritical sense:
1. Chassigny, France.
Bruno and Carine (or perhaps young Master LaBenne) would hopefully join me as
interpreters as we go chateau-to-chateau asking the residents ab
I've recently returned from a couple of weeks in Scotland including an
excellent visit with Rob Elliott. We did drink beer, actually Guinness Stout,
at "room temperature" (which is the correct temp for Guinness) although he
had all of the windows of his home open such that the ambient temperatur
Last February, after almost four years of debate, Ron and I finally agreed on
words to appear on the "Nakhla" page on the NASA website he administers. I
consider the site a vital source of truth for meteorites. The US Government.
Not hyping meteorites for sale. Unbiased and unvarnished.
Since
There's nothing inherently wrong with re-posting a message, even one from a
year or two ago, although it would be courteous to at least tell the
l-members that it's an "old message".
Ron has re-posted his "theory" of the dog with it's "woulda, shouda, coulda
fuzzy logic" with the closing plea
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In 1998 I had a two-part article on Nakhla published in "Meteorite". Last
year, I had a two-part article on Chassigny published in "Meteorite."
In either case, I spent literally hundreds of hours locating papers written
immediately following the falls, some provided
Rob (and list members):
I've corresponded a couple of times lately with Alan Rubin regarding his new
book and a nonexistent dog.
He wrote back:
July 15/02 - "I apologize, but I had simply forgotten about your paper in
"M!" The only double-checking I did was to look up Nakhla in the latest BM
Reading the love-in that's passing for the meteorite list these days has made
me ebb and flow emotional, so I'll add my two hearts (are better than
one-YES) to the moment.
I enjoyed several stellar meteoritical moments during the last hours worth
sharing with young and old, "Big" and "Small" a
We've finally had high speed Internet made available to our neighborhood,
courtesy of Comcast Cable. For the moment we're keeping our AOL service,
although we'll downgrade to the $14.95/mo. "bring your own connection" since
we like "AOL Anywhere" when we travel (and don't like Hotmail).
Withi
Fred, Bernd and fellow m-listers:
It's always great to read other's adventures-tinged-in-meteorites and any
adventure lubricated with cheap, but quality beer, is even better. Good
report, Fred.
Fred mentions finding some interesting going-ons at the Vienna Museum,
particularly regarding a po
Last night and again this morning, the local NBC affiliate has featured a
"meteorite " that was discovered in Naples, Florida just down the road from
my town of Fort Myers. Any meteorite from Florida would be especially
interesting since we only have Bonita Springs H5 (found in an Caloosa India
AOL is reporting that the journal "Science" will publish this week data from
the orbiting Odyssey spacecraft indicating that it has detected WATER ICE
UNDER THE SURFACE OF MARS, "a finding that could be a giant step in the
exploration of Mars."
Congratulations to those at NASA and cooperating
Amigos y amigas:
Of course you are correct about my mistimed restaurant. Call it tequila
induced old-timers disease. But can I get credit for spelling "Tucson" right?
AND
I realize that in the classic Rellano recipe the skins are toasted over a
flame and removed. I prefer them fried in oil an
Buenos Dias los todos!
In today's USA Today ("Life section, p. 3) Tucson's famous "El Charro"
Mexican restaurant is featured in an article "Grab a Taste of America."
El Charro was last February's scene for the "Meteor (sic) Mayhem Birthday
Bash celebrating the compleanos (twirl over the "n
Hi Christian:
Sahara 85001 had something of an interesting history. I purchased a slice
from Blaine with the "Sahara 85001" name a couple of years ago. When I was
typing out a label, it dawned on me that the Labenne Sahara "series" started
with "97." So what was this "85" about. Then I found t
As some of you know, Darryl Pitt's father passed away on March 4. Because of
some business, I had been corresponding with Darryl just the day before as
Darryl was enroute to Michigan to be with his father (and mother) during the
expected last moments. Darryl did take the time to write back on M
Friends:
Kathy and I are not going to be able to use our timeshare week this year and
rather than rent it out through the resort (and pay a fee) I thought that
we'd discount it, and offer it here first. To keep with the meteorite theme
of this list, I will be glad to bring my collection of met
For some time now, but apparently permanently, I am unable to view Dave's
site, http://www.geocities.com/~dweir/
I am wondering if (just) AOL, or any another other ISP, is causing what I am
suffering, to wit:
1. Click on site
2. Wait for 100% load
3. Click on left hand box "achondrites" (or anyt
Thanks to everyone who wrote.
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If anyone has sub-gram frags of Zagami, Shergotty or any dessert Martian
NWA's they want to sell, please send me a list.
Gracias mi amigos,
Kevin Kichinka
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It is really a privilege to be able to have the members of this list as a
resource. Because of a discussion I was subject to with a person for whom I
have the highest respect, it was important to me personally to survey this
group to find a % that recognized the phrase "emerald rough."
About
For the benefit of a person very important to me and influential in the world
of meteorites, I need to determine the % of "USA" v. "the rest of the list"
that knows what the term "Emerald rough" defines. I'll publish the definition
and survey results in 48 hours (assuming there are results to r
I mailed this to everyone on Wednesday but apparently AOL didn't bother to
put it through. Perhaps it's important enough to "try again".
Kevin Kichinka
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On page 6D of today's USA Today there's a small feature entitled "CO2, not
H2O, may be cause of Mars gullies". A photo
I'm not a "Believer" per the definition I note here on the list, but I am a
"seeker." I'm seeking an answer. What are the tubes? I note that my most
honored colleagues and people in the position to know, Ron B and Allan T,
didn't address this in their messages.
So though we've now somewhat vi
Thanks to Sterling for his "head's up" on this outrageously "unique" feature
recently photographed on the surface of Mars. If you were in a rush and
didn't check it out, here's another
chance..http://www.enterprisemission.com/samp5.htm
I'm wondering if Ron Baalke might be able to get some
I've already received a 1/2 dozen suggestions on how this will work for me
(you know who you are!). I'll try again now.
Thank you good friends,
Kevin Kichinka
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I've tried several times over several days to visit <
http://www.uark.edu/campus-resources/metsoc/metbull/master-index.pdf > , a
site suggested by Matteo, but it always "times out" after loading about 35%.
Is this a viable site?
Thanks,
Kevin
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Decaying Dave and Gentle List Members:
For an informative article on the Russian region of Putorana, check out
October, 2000 (I'm a little behind in my reading) National Geographic. A
place of very weird geology could produce a rock as weird as Putorana.
And if you lo
I'm in between digital cameras so I've described these as best I can.
Shipping in USA is $4 for US Priority w/tracer for most items. Shipping to
other places is whatever it costs + registered + insured.
1. Chassigny (Mars) - 0.013 gms fragment 3x3x2mm - $325
2. Vigarano CV3.3 - 0.010 gms fragme
I've just returned from six days in Tucson and will file this report for
those that weren't able to make it. I'll include some peripheral info.
Because I was hand-carrying a suitcase full of meteorites, I received special
attention at the FtMyers (Fla.), Chicago and Tucson airports both coming
List members may recall that last week I publicly renounced Ron Baalke. I am
not a subtle person by nature and it was a harsh act of finality. Ron took
the time to write me a note explaining his intent. I am satisfied with his
explanation. I am again reminded of the wisdom of waiting 24 hours b
A classic meteor-wrong.
Kevin Kichinka
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Dolores Beasley
Headquarters, WashingtonJan. 29, 2002
(Phone: 202/358-1753)
Nancy Neal
Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
(Phone: 301/286-0039)
RELEASE: 02-16
AGING NASA SPACECRAFT TO REENTER EARTH'S AT
I was touched to read members' Steve Sach's words of regret, words that
aren't easy for any of us to write under any circumstances.
My warm, fuzzy feeling was nuked by the message I just received from Ron
Baalke and I'm reminded of why people are cynical about their government and,
in a gener
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For me, all this debate really is about is my desire for Ron to make the NASA
website he administrates reflect what is known about Nakhla and the dog. I'm
offering here a positive idea to team with Ron to achieve that end. I hope he
accepts it and we bring desired clos
For me, all this debate really is about is my desire for Ron to make the NASA
website he administrates reflect what is known about Nakhla and the dog. I'm
offering here a positive idea to team with Ron to achieve that end. I hope he
accepts it and we bring desired closure to this issue for him,
Dear Cmcdon0923:
You wrote -- "And this was posted to the list for what reason? Was this a
serious challengewas it meant to be humorous?...
Yes. I'll pay $200 in serious USA currency (small bills if you insist, none
of that funny new "Euro" stuff) for the 1911 "Al Ahali" newspaper. Laugh i
I'm finding myself reading the original papers acquired from the Smithsonian
in my ongoing efforts to work with Ron and I realized I had forgotten a
couple of things left out of the "M!" feature for brevity's sake. (Although
I've received only a single message against "more dog," if this bores
Open letter to Ron Baalke:
We all agree it would be fascinating to find a copy of the appropriate 1911
issue of the Nile Delta, Arabic-language newspaper, "Al Ahali" with it's
farmer-saw-a-dog-get-hit-by-a-meteorite mention. What a souvenir! I'd matte
and frame it and hang it in my office. May
Open letter to Ron Baalke, Dog Devotee:
If you can come up with an idea on how the two of us, combining my uncanny
layman's ability to gather mountains of eye-blurring, brain-numbing data,
refining it to its purest essence of truth, with your professional skill at
instantaneously transferring
Ah, the power of the pen! I was pleasantly surprised and encouraged to read
the article Ron Baalke forwarded to us about Valera and the (eyes rolled
upward, throat cleared here) absolutely, positively dead animal associated
with it.
Yes, encouraged because the respected British periodical "Th
"Car-ry on.
Love, is coming,
Love, is coming to us all.."
Is their a special protocol for those flying in these frenzied skies and
planning to bring their meteorites to Tucson...
"You, who are on the road,
Must have a code,
That you can live by"
..now that an aubrite in the poc
That would be-
McSween.H.Y., Jr (1984) SNC Meteorites: Are they martian rocks?
Geology 12, 3-6
Kevin
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Dateline: USA Today (1/10/02)
"U of Tenn. geology professor Harry "Hap" McSween will join a NASA mission to
send an unmanned spacecraft to distant asteroids. The probe to launch in 2006
will go to the solar system's two largest known asteroids: Vesta and Ceres.
McSween has studied meteorites b
ose measurements in those days, he just rounded down). I wanted to "get
more before they ran out."
My next purchase included (yes, at auction.see what madness meteorites
bring) 1.8gms of Nakhla (no dogs allowed).
And through this serendipity, MARSROX was born.
Happ
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