Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 11 13:26, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Other than that I'm rather puzzled as to what MSYS2 is about, other than to duplicate developer efforts and to split communities. Apart from your perfect right to fork, you might nevertheless understand that I'm a bit annoyed. Especially given the

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread LRN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 15:26, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Hi Алексей, On Jun 8 01:56, Алексей Павлов wrote: 2013/6/7 Corinna Vinschen wrote: A final note: I'm not opposing the fork. Under the GPL it's your perfect right to do so, as long as you adhere to

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Ray Donnelly
I for one am hugely appreciative of all the hard work that Corinna, Kai, redhat, the mingw-w64 team and also Alexey has put into both Cygwin and MSYS2. Cygwin and MSYS2 exist for different, mutually exclusive goals. Anything we can reasonably do on MSYS2 (credits, thanks printed at each login,

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 11 15:43, LRN wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 15:26, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Hi Алексей, On Jun 8 01:56, Алексей Павлов wrote: 2013/6/7 Corinna Vinschen wrote: A final note: I'm not opposing the fork. Under the GPL it's your perfect

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 11 12:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: I for one am hugely appreciative of all the hard work that Corinna, Kai, redhat, the mingw-w64 team and also Alexey has put into both Cygwin and MSYS2. Cygwin and MSYS2 exist for different, mutually exclusive goals. Anything we I fail to see that. MSYS2

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread LRN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 15:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: MSYS itself was badly fragmented by the msysgit project which uses an even earlier version of MSYS than the latest one which is also missing important tools such as install.exe and something has to be done

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Ray Donnelly
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM, LRN lrn1...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 15:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: MSYS itself was badly fragmented by the msysgit project which uses an even earlier version of MSYS than the latest one which is also

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread LRN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 16:04, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jun 11 15:43, LRN wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 15:26, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Hi Алексей, On Jun 8 01:56, Алексей Павлов wrote: 2013/6/7 Corinna Vinschen

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread LRN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 16:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jun 11 12:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: I for one am hugely appreciative of all the hard work that Corinna, Kai, redhat, the mingw-w64 team and also Alexey has put into both Cygwin and MSYS2. Cygwin and

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread mity
On Jun 11 12:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: I for one am hugely appreciative of all the hard work that Corinna, Kai, redhat, the mingw-w64 team and also Alexey has put into both Cygwin and MSYS2. Cygwin and MSYS2 exist for different, mutually exclusive goals. Anything we I fail to see that.

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 11 16:59, LRN wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 16:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jun 11 12:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: I for one am hugely appreciative of all the hard work that Corinna, Kai, redhat, the mingw-w64 team and also Alexey has put into

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 11 16:42, m...@morous.org wrote: On Jun 11 12:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: I for one am hugely appreciative of all the hard work that Corinna, Kai, redhat, the mingw-w64 team and also Alexey has put into both Cygwin and MSYS2. Cygwin and MSYS2 exist for different, mutually exclusive

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Kai Tietz
2013/6/11 Corinna Vinschen vinsc...@redhat.com: On Jun 11 16:59, LRN wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.06.2013 16:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jun 11 12:58, Ray Donnelly wrote: I for one am hugely appreciative of all the hard work that Corinna, Kai, redhat,

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 11 16:52, LRN wrote: And why exactly is that a problem? The cross compiler is creating the exact same code as a native-like compile with the same version. Cross-compiling is somewhat more tricky. Also do remember that MSYS1 is rather old, cross-compiling was even trickier back then.

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Jon
Corrina, My user-based perspectives embedded below for your consideration... On Jun 8 01:56, Алексей Павлов wrote: 2013/6/7 Corinna Vinschen wrote: A final note: I'm not opposing the fork. Under the GPL it's your perfect right to do so, as long as you adhere to the license

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-11 Thread Алексей Павлов
Cygwin and MSYS have significantly different goals (even if MSYS is entirely based on Cygwin). My understanding is that MSYS is the minimal shell required to run autotools and get sources from internet from different repositories. MSYS is about porting Unix programs to Windows without having a

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-10 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi Алексей, On Jun 8 12:49, Алексей Павлов wrote: I recreate git repository on msys2.sf.net. Now master branch point to MSYS2 source and when you go to code page on sf.net you get page with MSYS2 source. Thank you, that's much better. This allows an unaware user to access the correct

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-10 Thread Алексей Павлов
Corinna, I upload 3rdparty sources that I use in MSYS2 to https://sourceforge.net/projects/msys2/files/Sources/ Regards, Alexey. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-10 Thread Алексей Павлов
New snapshots released. In this version I split MSYS2 into two parts: MSYS2 (for using with mingw compilers) and DEVELOP (msys-gcc, msys-binutils, win32api, libraries, headers). Links: 32 bit:

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-08 Thread Алексей Павлов
I recreate git repository on msys2.sf.net. Now master branch point to MSYS2 source and when you go to code page on sf.net you get page with MSYS2 source. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-07 Thread Martin Mitáš
Hi Alexey, I have just tried the 64-bit package on Win 7. I unpacked it it into C:\msys as a replacement of my old MSYS package (not sure where it came from). It could be an old MSYS package from the mingw project). I am using console2 [1], which is set to use the following command as my

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-07 Thread Алексей Павлов
2013/6/7 Martin Mitáš m...@morous.org Hi Alexey, I have just tried the 64-bit package on Win 7. I unpacked it it into C:\msys as a replacement of my old MSYS package (not sure where it came from). It could be an old MSYS package from the mingw project). I am using console2 [1], which is

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-07 Thread Alexpux
07.06.2013, в 10:13, Martin Mitáš m...@morous.org написал(а): Hi Alexey, I have just tried the 64-bit package on Win 7. I unpacked it it into C:\msys as a replacement of my old MSYS package (not sure where it came from). It could be an old MSYS package from the mingw project). I am

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-07 Thread LRN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07.06.2013 10:40, Alexpux wrote: 07.06.2013, в 10:13, Martin Mitáš m...@morous.org написал(а): But other then that, I was able to use it to build my projects after some twiddling with $PATH to override the gcc toolchain used in the package.

[Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 7 00:17, Алексей Павлов wrote: Hi, everybody! I have work on creating MSYS2 based on latest Cygwin sources and now create archives with alpha version. Links: 32-bit:

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Hello, On 07 Jun, Corinna Vinschen wrote : I checked the git source repository on sourceware and found that there is absolutely *no* change compared to the Cygwin source repository, none git checkout -b msys-2.1 origin/msys2-1.0-dev There are a lot of changes. 235 to be exact... Best

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 7 17:34, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: Hello, On 07 Jun, Corinna Vinschen wrote : I checked the git source repository on sourceware and found that there is absolutely *no* change compared to the Cygwin source repository, none git checkout -b msys-2.1 origin/msys2-1.0-dev There

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On 07 Jun, Corinna Vinschen wrote : On Jun 7 17:34, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: Hello, On 07 Jun, Corinna Vinschen wrote : I checked the git source repository on sourceware and found that there is absolutely *no* change compared to the Cygwin source repository, none git checkout

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2 GPL infringement (was Re: MSYS2)

2013-06-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 7 17:57, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On 07 Jun, Corinna Vinschen wrote : On Jun 7 17:34, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: Hello, On 07 Jun, Corinna Vinschen wrote : I checked the git source repository on sourceware and found that there is absolutely *no* change compared to

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-07 Thread Martin Mitáš
* Many commands (e.g. ls, basename, ...) start with writing the following error message to stderr: 0 [main] basename 3784 stdio_init: couldn't make stderr distinct from stdout It is funny because ls 2/dev/null suppresses it so it seems the two are

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-07 Thread Алексей Павлов
2013/6/7 Martin Mitáš m...@morous.org * Many commands (e.g. ls, basename, ...) start with writing the following error message to stderr: 0 [main] basename 3784 stdio_init: couldn't make stderr distinct from stdout It is funny because ls 2/dev/null

[Mingw-w64-public] MSYS2

2013-06-06 Thread Алексей Павлов
Hi, everybody! I have work on creating MSYS2 based on latest Cygwin sources and now create archives with alpha version. Links: 32-bit: x32-msys2-alpha-20130607.7zhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/msys2/files/Alpha-versions/32-bit/x32-msys2-alpha-20130607.7z/download 64-bit:

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