Re: Something hosing my msdos/FAT32 file system

2005-11-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On 11/27/05, Alexander Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if this could cause a lot of other errors, like corrupted files and such. I am thinking about if I dare to mount and use msdos filesystems r/w again... But then again, if noone dares to do it, we'll never know if it works as

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-27 Thread Daniel Ouellet
In all these: I'm going to take this thread for what I think it is... the old guard telling us youngin's that our efforts are appreciated, but we've got a bit more to learn about how things work, and how to write good documentation, before we're really ready to jump into these things the way we

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:58:04 +0100, frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 09:34:39AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said that Yes, OpenBSD is the _only_ operating system that takes security as seriously as it should be taken. Consider the why of OpenBSD's this is a

Re: group ownership of /var/mail

2005-11-27 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 11/27/05, J Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:16:27AM -0600, the unit calling itself Matthew Weigel wrote: snip You should probably look to http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=popa3d first. Yep - I looked at it first... but IIRC it doesn't support POP

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-27 Thread Tony
Daniel Ouellet wrote: In all these: I'm going to take this thread for what I think it is... the old guard telling us youngin's that our efforts are appreciated, but we've got a bit more to learn about how things work, and how to write good documentation, before we're really ready to jump

Re: bios support for console redirection to the serial port

2005-11-27 Thread Stephan Tesch
Am Sonntag, 27. November 2005 00:47 schrieben Sie: Hi Kevin, I'm in the market for a *tower-type* server box (or m/b to put in a tower) on which to run OBSD and a very important criteria for me is this one. I'd also like at least two cpu sockets and more PCI slots than average but that's

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread Sanjay Arora
Roger, Kevin List: I think...I'll take your advise. Seems that all OS users are addicted to their own and in Linux which I use...such a query as this is an invitation to a disro war. In my search of course your replies, the community at BSD is much more containedthough I do not say that

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread Sime Ramov
On 15:57 Sun 27 Nov, Sanjay Arora wrote: Now, some quick question...which BSD flavour to try first...thrust is on easy to install learn for a newbie. Try FreeBSD first. Than the others... Second, which would be more suited to a production web/mail server with djbdns, apache, php, perl

Re: RELEASE BUG - ami0: timeout ccb 1

2005-11-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:50:37 +, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fwiw, I didn't have any trouble with my cerc-ata on 3.8-release (now running a snap from a couple of weeks ago), it looks like Dell has BIOS and firmware newer than that on LSI's website, http://tinyurl.com/cpmjn,

Re: RELEASE BUG - ami0: timeout ccb 1

2005-11-27 Thread David Coppa
On 11/27/05, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - cut - My grasp of 80960 (i960) assembler and op codes is not adequate to do anything realistic in the way of really analyzing the binaries in a reasonable length of time. None the less, I'm still half tempted to just go for it and see

Re: RELEASE BUG - ami0: timeout ccb 1

2005-11-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:31:54 +0100, David Coppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/05, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - cut - My grasp of 80960 (i960) assembler and op codes is not adequate to do anything realistic in the way of really analyzing the binaries in a reasonable length of

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Jonathan Glaschke
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:39:18PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:29:27AM +0100, Jonathan Glaschke said that The Web is against good design. You can see this by looking at the most people's choice of browser. Bad web browsers are the biggest problem in

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 02:15:27PM +0100, Jonathan Glaschke said that XHTML 1.1 must be shipped as application/xhtml+xml. IE can't handle this and ask the user (or the idiot, as you signature says ;) where to save this file. That's not a real problem since you can use xhtml 1.0 but that

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Sime Ramov
On 14:55 Sun 27 Nov, frantisek holop wrote: your page is unreadable at 800x600 :) I know, it's personal site (well, just splash at this moment), and I decided for 1024x768. But I was talking about *code*. Offcourse that I would design OpenBSD site totaly different... It's about code

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Jason Dixon
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:04 AM, Sime Ramov wrote: On 14:55 Sun 27 Nov, frantisek holop wrote: your page is unreadable at 800x600 :) I know, it's personal site (well, just splash at this moment), and I decided for 1024x768. But I was talking about *code*. Offcourse that I would design OpenBSD

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Simon Morgan
Sime Ramov hello at coastaldisturbance.com writes: I agree. Just look at the code of my site, now, OpenBSD needs exactly that! :) No, I'm not sarcastic, I'm serious, it would match OpenBSD perfectly. Can you people please shut the fuck up about the website. It's been stated numerous times

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Sime Ramov
On 14:46 Sun 27 Nov, Simon Morgan wrote: time soon. I have a sneaking suspicion that the only people who keep raising this are i know what's best HTML programmers who have nothing interesting or worthwhile to contribute or discuss but feel the overwhelming need to nitpick, bitch and moan

Re: OT: Transparent squid AND redirect_program possible?

2005-11-27 Thread Alexander Farber
Oops my problem were caused by antispoof quick for lo On 11/26/05, Alexander Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.benzedrine.cx/transquid.html together with any kind of a redirect_program? I've tried first using adzapper.sf.net and then just a hello world redirector from

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Simon Morgan
Sime Ramov hello at coastaldisturbance.com writes: Many programmers write code and think that it's the only thing that matters. Well, web site of the product is also very important. Matters to who? Idiots who can't read man pages and are constantly polluting this mailing list with their idiotic

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Toomas Pelberg
css can be used with 4.01 w/o problems. and making pages that have css but also set things for non-css browsers (background) is quite normal (at least until everybody catches up in year 3014). make it at least 1998 ;-) OpenBSD is known for it's progressive additude, if there's a new and a

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 03:04:11PM +0100, Sime Ramov wrote: On 14:55 Sun 27 Nov, frantisek holop wrote: your page is unreadable at 800x600 :) I know, it's personal site (well, just splash at this moment), and I decided for 1024x768. Deciding for *any* resolution is *bad* design.

Re: Theorical question on dual core vs single CPU in routing setup.

2005-11-27 Thread Henning Brauer
* Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-26 08:57]: I was asking myself if I would actually benefit from a dual core processor, or multi-processor system in a routing setup and more I think about it, I would think not as the application is not multi-treads to start with and there isn't

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Rene Rivera
Hannah Schroeter wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 03:04:11PM +0100, Sime Ramov wrote: On 14:55 Sun 27 Nov, frantisek holop wrote: your page is unreadable at 800x600 I know, it's personal site (well, just splash at this moment), and I decided for 1024x768. Deciding for *any* resolution is

Help on booting from logical partition

2005-11-27 Thread PARAMVIR DHINDSA
27 Nov, 2005 Dear Sir, I've installed OpenBSD on an Intel machine(Intel chipset GV) in a logical partition. How can I boot that partition from a bootable floppy i.e what should I type at the boot

Clamd crapping-out?

2005-11-27 Thread Chris
Hello everyone. I wanted to build an email server OBSD style. I have never done this, and it has been a while since I set one up (few years). I wanted to take advantage of many of the newer developments in the *nix email world. I am using OBSD 3.8 with sendmail. My machine is an 800mhz via c3

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-27 Thread Fabien Germain
On 11/27/05, Bruno S. Delbono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a secure php CMS that any of you might have had experience with (knowing full well that php and security are an oxymoron) Did you try SPIP (http://www.spip.net) ? Several big french websites use it. Fabien

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-27 Thread Daniel Ouellet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBSD claims to be done for the benefit of its developers and every indication that I've seen says that they mean exactly what they say. True and nothing wrong with that. Concerns of users are secondary at best. The developers will help you if you have something

Re: Help on booting from logical partition

2005-11-27 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:14:50AM -0800, PARAMVIR DHINDSA wrote: 27 Nov, 2005 Dear Sir, I've installed OpenBSD on an Intel machine(Intel chipset GV) in a logical partition. How can I boot that

Re: How to redirect packets by HTTP URL

2005-11-27 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Alejandro Valverde Molina wrote: I'm using pf to forwarding my dmz, but I need to forward a http subdomain to a specific ip address, so is there a way to forward the package reading the http url, like m$cr$s$ft isa server does? In your httpd.conf file, you can make that do what ever you

Re: How to redirect packets by HTTP URL

2005-11-27 Thread knitti
On 11/27/05, Alejandro Valverde Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using pf to forwarding my dmz, but I need to forward a http subdomain to a specific ip address, so is there a way to forward the package reading the http url, like m$cr$s$ft isa server does? I don't know exactly what you

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Nick Holland
Rene Rivera wrote: Hannah Schroeter wrote: ... Deciding for *any* resolution is *bad* design. The current openbsd.org doesn't work at 640x480... Does that make it a bad design? And hence should be considered a bug to be fixed by a new design? One of our star platforms, Zaurus, has only

Fwd: What java port for konqueror?

2005-11-27 Thread Edd Barrett
On 27/11/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 26 November 2005 19:08, steven mestdagh wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 05:45:37PM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: I finally need to activate Java support for Konqueror, but it appears that Java is not by default part of KDE or

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Rene Rivera
Nick Holland wrote: Rene Rivera wrote: Hannah Schroeter wrote: Deciding for *any* resolution is *bad* design. The current openbsd.org doesn't work at 640x480... Does that make it a bad design? And hence should be considered a bug to be fixed by a new design? So, where do you see a

Re: Fwd: What java port for konqueror?

2005-11-27 Thread Josh Grosse
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:41:01AM +, Edd Barrett wrote: ...You should be aware that the 1.5 jdk has no java plugin! Use 1.4 if you need it. True for -release and -stable. But the plugin was added to -current cvs 4 days ago. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/devel/jdk/1.5/

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 04:04:02PM +, Simon Morgan said that Sime Ramov hello at coastaldisturbance.com writes: Many programmers write code and think that it's the only thing that matters. Well, web site of the product is also very important. Matters to who? Idiots who can't read

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 05:34:49PM -0500, Nick Holland said that Rene Rivera wrote: Hannah Schroeter wrote: ... Deciding for *any* resolution is *bad* design. The current openbsd.org doesn't work at 640x480... Does that make it a bad design? And hence should be considered a bug

Re: anyone tried bgpd vs. he.net/tunnelbroker.net

2005-11-27 Thread unixgeek
snip your only workaround is to not send any capability it does not grok. this is guesswork. you might want to try to not announce v4 unicast capabilities... snip I was wondering exactly how this was specified in the bgpd.conf file? Since I was trying to do the same thing to connect to he.net and

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Ray Percival
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 27, 2005, at 4:20 PM, frantisek holop wrote: snip You're not contributing anything. if you are sent away right at the beginning, what's the point? expressing an opinion is still a contribution. without that, openbsd would be much

OpenBSD 3.8 remote installation script

2005-11-27 Thread Florian Mahlecke
Hi there, Iam looking for a script which could used for an remote OpenBSD 3.8 installtion on a dedicated server. Last time Ive dumped an image of 3.6 on my box but Ive read something about an installation routine for OpenBSD 3.6 but I have forgotten the scriptname (but it wasnt the

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:15:26 +0100, Robbert Haarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear JCR, To the rest of list users; Please pardon another long email from me on this. Helping reasonable people like Robbert understand why many people consider HOWTO's to be harmful is hopefully worth the added

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Jeremy David
On 11/27/05, Simon Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hackers like interesting problems. Pretty HTML and a nice website layout is not an interesting problem. Stop wasting peoples time with it. The website has its purpose and does a perfectly good job of serving it. I would have to disagree. I

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-27 Thread Ray Percival
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 27, 2005, at 7:52 PM, Jeremy David wrote: On 11/27/05, Simon Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hackers like interesting problems. Pretty HTML and a nice website layout is not an interesting problem. Stop wasting peoples time with it. The

Re: openbsd web site design proposals (from HOTO write bad docs)

2005-11-27 Thread Nick Holland
frantisek holop wrote: dear list, before Theo brings up the (very) valid point of haven't been able to see any proposed design (even if rejected without looking) i would like to ask fellow designers or anyone who feels like to make an openbsd site design proposal just to show that actually

OpenBSD 3.8 remote installation script

2005-11-27 Thread Florian Mahlecke
Hi there, Iam looking for a script which could used for an remote OpenBSD 3.8 installation on a dedicated server. Last time Ive dumped an image of 3.6 on my box but Ive read something about an installation routine for OpenBSD 3.6 but I have forgotten the scriptname (but it wasnt the

Install fails on ACER Veriton 5100 at entry point at 0x100120

2005-11-27 Thread Uwe Dippel
... both for cd37 and cd38 in a similar way. For 3.8 is says: CD-ROM: AC Loading /3.8/I386/CDBOOT probing: pc0 com0 apm mem[635k 382M a20=on] disk: fd0 hd0+* cd0 OpenBSD /i386 CDBOOT 1.04 boot booting cd0a: /3.8/i386/bsd.rd: 4369156+828044 [52+151072+137381]=0x53b600 entry point at 0x100120

Re: openbsd web site design proposals (from HOTO write bad docs)

2005-11-27 Thread J Moore
Why don't you cut the guy some slack - or at least shut your yap on this (puh-l-e-e-e-ze)? I don't see *any* of what you're claiming to be OpenBSD policy stated on the website. In fact I see a statement (somewhat) to the contrary: Be as politics-free as possible; solutions should be decided on

Re: openbsd web site design proposals (from HOTO write bad docs)

2005-11-27 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 28 November 2005 01:33, J Moore wrote: Why don't you cut the guy some slack - or at least shut your yap on this (puh-l-e-e-e-ze)? I don't see *any* of what you're claiming to be OpenBSD policy stated on the website. In fact I see a statement (somewhat) to the contrary: Be as