On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 20:09:50 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote...
> 95% of the planet does nothing to complain when there is a serious
> problem with a company, and then when < 5% of the people complain
> enough to force them fix it, you wish to congratulate the ... company?
>
> How American.
>
Plea
On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 19:11:50 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote...
> To make ourselves feel better? I think it is pointless. They still
> did not apologize.
Really, come on. Stop being childish.
While browsing through some pictures of one of the OpenBSD events (can't
find the link again right this moment) there were a couple of attendees who
had large wireframe Puffy stickers on the lid of their laptops. There was
also a very large one on the top of a 1U chassis. These were larger, much
la
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 08:09:50PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Ok, so there's no need to fawn over them for doing what they should have
> > done before. I'd be nice to have an apology AND the docs. Given the
> > choice of one or the other, it's better to have the docs. And who knows,
> > maybe
Theo de Raadt wrote:
So they gave us docs. Now we need to say they are nice?
No way. They have received money from hundreds of you. You are
customers. They are a company. Now if you (like them) cannot figure
out what that means, that they have a RESPONSIBILITY to their
customers, and that t
Theo de Raadt wrote:
I will ask this honestly:
Why should we bleed our little hearts over a company who acted like
assholes towards us for years, and only changed their policy due to
public pressure?
To make ourselves feel better? I think it is pointless. They still
did not apologize.
I
> Ok, so there's no need to fawn over them for doing what they should have
> done before. I'd be nice to have an apology AND the docs. Given the
> choice of one or the other, it's better to have the docs. And who knows,
> maybe there will be real policy shift for now and the future with Hifn.
> I'm
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:11:50PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> I think you are right. If someone commits a crime, and then promises
> to never do it again, we should forgive them.
>
> I will ask this honestly:
>
> Why should we bleed our little hearts over a company who acted like
> assholes t
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Hello,
I am in the process of replacing an old PIII system that has died. I've been
trying to build an amd equivalent system(micro-atx, low noise, low power and
integrated graphics/audio) but the only motherboards alike that are
available where I live, are based on the nforce 6100 chipset and I hav
> It seems to me that if people are going to make a huge fuss about a
> company's documentation not being open enough or not available or what
> have you, and then following the fuss, they make their documentation
> available, they should at a minimum be considered "somewhat friendly".
I think you
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
[snipp'ed]
Agreed as well. It's just fair to see them presented as it is.
"Somewhat Friendly" is really where they are now, so would be fair to
do that.
Changed.
Reference the hifn article as to why (which was updated by the time I
got there) their status was upgraded.
D. E. Evans wrote:
> On a Toshiba Satellite a35-s1593, without a PC-card currently plugged
> in, I get a mapping error for the CardBus (cbb). I intend to purchase
> a wireless PC-Card (I haven't decided on model yet), and wish to
> ensure it will work with the cardbus before doing so.
Try changin
On a Toshiba Satellite a35-s1593, without a PC-card currently plugged
in, I get a mapping error for the CardBus (cbb). I intend to purchase
a wireless PC-Card (I haven't decided on model yet), and wish to
ensure it will work with the cardbus before doing so.
OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar
J.C. Roberts wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:27:53 -0400, "Nick Guenther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On 6/30/06, Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
J.C. Roberts wrote:
This should take care of any of the long standing issues OpenBSD has had
with the HiFn's procedures for releasing docum
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 02:27:53PM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote:
> On 6/30/06, Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >PS - Someone who participates in editing vendorwatch.org might want to
> >update the Hifn status page.
>
> Done, but I've left their ranking as "unfriendly" on the front page
>
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:27:53 -0400, "Nick Guenther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On 6/30/06, Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> J.C. Roberts wrote:
>> > This should take care of any of the long standing issues OpenBSD has had
>> > with the HiFn's procedures for releasing documentation.
>
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 21:00, Clint Pachl wrote:
> Is IP compression/ipcomp flows implemented in ipsecctl(8)? I am trying
> to perform encryption (enc) and compression (ipcomp) between two
> OBSD3.9 hosts.
IPcomp is known broken for at least two years, perhaps longer. Do not use it.
> ipcom
Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Done, but I've left their ranking as "unfriendly" on the front page
> because they've given no apology and they still seem to be shady.
>
No worries, I just got word that they'll send a prostitute over to your house
to fix that right up.
Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote:
> You could NFS export out the build directory from your build
> server and mount it on the clients that want to update. Then a
> 'make build' on them would grab the newest stuff, and you could
> be selective about portions of the tree and so forth.
Good solution, but
i tried 2 usb ralink RT2571F usb with openbsd 3.9 and -current.
ural0 at uhub0 port 1
ural0: ASUS 802.11g WLAN Drive, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2
ural0: MAC/BBP RT2570 (rev 0x05), RF RT2526, address 00:17:31:2e:ae:34
problem:
this ifconfig works
ifconfig ural0 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 nwid r
Don't respond to this mail. Problem got solved, a powercut and a toasted
exports file.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:44:51 +0200
Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am having problems with one of our NFS servers at our datacenter.
>
> I have just set it up.
>
> I have edited /etc/rc.c
Dylan Martin wrote on Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:38:45AM -0700:
> I've got a handful of OpenBSD boxes, and instead of keeping src on
> all of them, I'd like one box to follow stable and build patched
> programs which I could then distribute to my other boxes.
Two ways are officially supported:
-
It's going to get deleted if you choose that. It's not a fully automated script.
Thanks for the feedback :)
On 6/30/06, Wade, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That all good and well, but what happens when my package that I use has zero
depends?
It's going to get deleted.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Dylan Martin wrote:
If there is a better or best way to do this, let me know!
You could try something like :
#!/bin/sh
DESTDIR=/tmp/sendmail
mtree -qdef /etc/mtree/4.4BSD.dist -p ${DESTDIR}/ -u
touch ${DESTDIR}/timestamp
cd /path_to_sendmail_src
env DESTDIR=${DESTDIR} ma
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I also tried playing with setting DESTDIR, but that didn't work very
> well. After a lot of messing around, I got a useable tar file, but it
> sure wasn't elegant.
> (http://seattlecentral.edu/~dmartin/docs/binpatch.html for my notes on
> that experience).
>
> My next i
I've got a handful of OpenBSD boxes, and instead of keeping src on all
of them, I'd like one box to follow stable and build patched programs which I
could then distribute to my other boxes.
I poked around the archives of this list, and it looks like this is a
reacurring question.
Has there be
On 6/30/06, Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
J.C. Roberts wrote:
> This should take care of any of the long standing issues OpenBSD has had
> with the HiFn's procedures for releasing documentation.
This is good news. Thanks for your contribution!
To all the nay-sayers out there: this
I don't know how to explain it well (:P), the script finds which
packages are not needed by others, so you can delete those you don't
use.
It's my first shell script, so feedback is apreciated, :) This is in
public domain, blah blah blah blah.
#!/bin/ksh
function check_for_packages {
Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2006/06/30 10:51, Stephen Bosch wrote:
Thanks. No joy yet. Traceroute traffic is still going out the public
interface when I try to ping a host on ...
If this traceroute is from the vpn gateway itself (rather than
an endpoint) you'll need to either set the source add
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 03:45:55PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
> I just got a call this afternoon from Tom Moore to let me know they've
> set up an anon FTP site (no registration) with their documentation:
hi5. nicely done.
> Please check out the readme on the FTP. Basically it says if you w
On 2006/06/30 10:51, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> Thanks. No joy yet. Traceroute traffic is still going out the public
> interface when I try to ping a host on ...
If this traceroute is from the vpn gateway itself (rather than
an endpoint) you'll need to either set the source address to an
address in t
Clint Pachl wrote:
Stephen Bosch wrote:
In the NAT section of my pf.conf, I have the following command:
binat on $enc_if from $HostA_private_IP to
-> $HostA_private_NAT_IP
Try "binat pass ..."
Done.
In the FILTER section, I have:
pass in on $enc_if from to \
HostA_private_NAT_IP
p
Stephen Bosch wrote:
Hi, everybody:
Okay -- the good news is that we've got the SA up between these two
sites, the bad news is that traffic isn't passing.
The situation is complicated by some NAT that I need through the
encryption interface.
We have the following:
HostA_private_IP
HostA_
Stephen Bosch wrote:
Hi, everybody:
Okay -- the good news is that we've got the SA up between these two
sites, the bad news is that traffic isn't passing.
The situation is complicated by some NAT that I need through the
encryption interface.
We have the following:
HostA_private_IP
HostA_
Hi, everybody:
Okay -- the good news is that we've got the SA up between these two
sites, the bad news is that traffic isn't passing.
The situation is complicated by some NAT that I need through the
encryption interface.
We have the following:
HostA_private_IP
HostA_private_NAT_IP
In t
J.C. Roberts wrote:
This should take care of any of the long standing issues OpenBSD has had
with the HiFn's procedures for releasing documentation.
This is good news. Thanks for your contribution!
To all the nay-sayers out there: this proves that sometimes companies do
'get' their customers'
Hekan Olsson wrote:
On 29 jun 2006, at 22.33, Stephen Bosch wrote:
I'm trying to set up a tunnel to a Cisco PIX.
It seems to make it past Phase 1, the trouble starts at Phase 2. I've
provided some tcpdump output below:
...
So, at this point it looks like Phase 1 was successful. Phase 2 begin
Hi!
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 03:45:55PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>[...]
>I just got a call this afternoon from Tom Moore to let me know they've
>set up an anon FTP site (no registration) with their documentation:
>ftp://ftp.hifn.com
Kudoes to you for your initiative and to HiFn for their decis
Joachim Schipper wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 05:26:30PM -0700, Lawrence Horvath wrote:
>> Is it possible to mix queue types with pf, for instance all http
>> traffic is sent to a hfsc queue while all ssh traffic is sent to a
>> priq queue, or could you have a master priq queue and child cbq qu
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:49:26AM +0700, riwanlky wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to run TWiki on my OBSD 3.9 box. Installed using pkg_add
> TWiiki-20040903p0.tgz
> Include the following in my httpd.conf:
>
> apachectl restart.
Try this:
# apachectl stop
# httpd -u <- TWiki wont run in chroo
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 12:00:12PM +0200, Tobias Weisserth wrote:
>
> I never understood why putting /tmp on its own partition is good when nobody
> notices /var/tmp. In addition to /tmp I always put /var/tmp on its own
> partition too, so that I can mount it with nodev,noexec,nosuid.
I always
Thanks folks
.
On 6/29/06, Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 04:48:24PM -0300, Jo?o Salvatti wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> I'd like to know if OpenBSD's gcc build binary files with built-in
> stack-smashing attacks protection.
As Theo pointed out, yes.
Be aware that
* Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-30 03:33]:
> yes, I'd say you are going a bit overboard.
very slightly, if at all.
> nor do I see any real-life benefit to a /usr/local partition.
I do, a lot.
prevent 3rd party crap shit from overflowing /usr.
and, that way, you can even mount /usr RO unless
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 05:26:30PM -0700, Lawrence Horvath wrote:
> Is it possible to mix queue types with pf, for instance all http
> traffic is sent to a hfsc queue while all ssh traffic is sent to a
> priq queue, or could you have a master priq queue and child cbq queues
> under it?
>
> thanks
Hi,
> So am I going overboard? or am I missing any good partions.
I never understood why putting /tmp on its own partition is good when nobody
notices /var/tmp. In addition to /tmp I always put /var/tmp on its own
partition too, so that I can mount it with nodev,noexec,nosuid.
I also try to sp
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Hi Joakinen,
On 2006.06.28, at 11:24 PM, joakinen wrote:
Is there any "diagram" of how every piece of code retales to the
others?
I don't know how relevant it is to OpenBSD, if at all, but I seem to
remember getting a BSD TCP/IP network stack diagram poster with the
boxed set of TCP/IP I
The second volume of TCP/IP Illustrated is very interesting, it
describes the BSD implementation of the TCP stack, walking you through
the code. Although dated, the code still bears a lot of similarities
with what you'll find in /usr/src.
On 29 jun 2006, at 22.33, Stephen Bosch wrote:
I'm trying to set up a tunnel to a Cisco PIX.
It seems to make it past Phase 1, the trouble starts at Phase 2.
I've provided some tcpdump output below:
...
So, at this point it looks like Phase 1 was successful. Phase 2
begins:
14:21:47.2355
OpenBSD SMP is based on BigLock, so only one processor at the time can
execute kernel code, and IP Stack is kernel side only.
As far as I remember.
regards
M.K.
Gustavo Rios napisaE(a):
I have the same understanding you have Pachl. I believe OpenBSD IP
Stack is not multithreaded implemented.
I have the same understanding you have Pachl. I believe OpenBSD IP
Stack is not multithreaded implemented. A core developer could
deny/confirm such belief.
/all the best.
On 6/30/06, Clint Pachl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does PF utilize multiple processors? One of my router/firewalls is a
dual
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of John Brahy
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:00 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: [misc] Partitions
>
> At first I didn't understand the reason for all the partitions (
> http://archives.neohapsis.
Does PF utilize multiple processors? One of my router/firewalls is a
dual Pentium Pro 200. It also runs ftp-proxy, but that's it. Would a PII
400MHz be equivalent, better, or worse?
Just curious. From what I understand, the network stack is not threaded,
thus multiple processors would not be b
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