Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Alf Schlichting
On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 12:56:08AM -0400, Martin Gignac wrote: > >>One more just donated $100. > > > >And here's another one. > > Ditto. > > -Martin One more. Alf

Re: Invalid partition table (was /usr/obj partition AWOL)

2007-06-08 Thread Emilio Perea
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:41:40PM -0400, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: > This is very odd on several fronts. First, someone has obviously > been writing on the MBR for no good reason. I just tested an fdisk > compiled to day and noticed no oddities on my i386. > > Second, the fact that you find a d

Re: Invalid partition table (was /usr/obj partition AWOL)

2007-06-08 Thread Jimmy Mitchener
On 6/8/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > c: 7168196763 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0*- 4461 > d: 210445263 4.2BSD 2048 16384 132 # Cyl 0*- 130 Ah -- your 'c' partition does not start at 0. It's an old FreeBSD partition on yo

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Martin Gignac
>One more just donated $100. And here's another one. Ditto. -Martin -- "Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the streets after them." --Bill Vaughan

Re: Invalid partition table (was /usr/obj partition AWOL)

2007-06-08 Thread Theo de Raadt
> c: 7168196763 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0*- > 4461 > d: 210445263 4.2BSD 2048 16384 132 # Cyl 0*- > 130 Ah -- your 'c' partition does not start at 0. It's an old FreeBSD partition on your disk. That should not work; it is bunk. W

Re: PPPoE MTU Problem

2007-06-08 Thread Marcos Laufer
Will , PPPoE needs a MTU of 1492 , i had the same problem with other values Give it a try. Marcos - Original Message - From: "Will Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: PPPoE MTU Problem On 9 Jun 2007, at 00:11, Stuart Henderson wrote: >

Re: Invalid partition table (was /usr/obj partition AWOL)

2007-06-08 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
This is very odd on several fronts. First, someone has obviously been writing on the MBR for no good reason. I just tested an fdisk compiled to day and noticed no oddities on my i386. Second, the fact that you find a disklabel. Since we no longer store or look for disklabels in FreeBSD partitions

Invalid partition table (was /usr/obj partition AWOL)

2007-06-08 Thread Emilio Perea
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 04:58:18PM -0500, Emilio Perea wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 07:50:24PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > I have thinking a bit more about the problem, and it is very likely the > > following scenario happened: > > > > 1. Kernel upgrade by source. > > > > 2. Reboot > > >

Re: PPPoE MTU Problem

2007-06-08 Thread Will Jenkins
On 9 Jun 2007, at 00:11, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/06/08 23:44, Jason McIntyre wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 04:36:28PM +0100, Will Jenkins wrote: I've been experiencing some strange problems. I have a PPPoE/PPPoA bridging ethernet modem in the UK and am using userland ppp to connect

Re: About BSD Certification

2007-06-08 Thread Rico Secada
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:28:08 +0200 Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Rico Secada wrote: > > > What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org? > > It is as useless as MSCE and all the other vendor certificates. I would > even go so far to claim it's a lot worse

Re: About BSD Certification

2007-06-08 Thread Greg Thomas
On 6/8/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Rico Secada wrote: > What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org? It is as useless as MSCE and all the other vendor certificates. I would even go so far to claim it's a lot worse than a Microsoft or Cisco certific

Re: PPPoE MTU Problem

2007-06-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/06/08 23:44, Jason McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 04:36:28PM +0100, Will Jenkins wrote: > > > > I've been experiencing some strange problems. I have a PPPoE/PPPoA > > bridging ethernet modem in the UK and am using userland ppp to connect > > to my DSL provider. > > > > I have

Re: PPPoE MTU Problem

2007-06-08 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 04:36:28PM +0100, Will Jenkins wrote: > > I've been experiencing some strange problems. I have a PPPoE/PPPoA > bridging ethernet modem in the UK and am using userland ppp to connect > to my DSL provider. > > I have been setting MTU/MRU to 1458 in ppp.conf and have been g

Re: About BSD Certification

2007-06-08 Thread Marc Balmer
* Rico Secada wrote: > What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org? It is as useless as MSCE and all the other vendor certificates. I would even go so far to claim it's a lot worse than a Microsoft or Cisco certificate. This is not backed by any industry, it just re

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Friday, June 8, 2007 at 13:47:26 -0700, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote: >On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: > >>Dunno what the target amount is but if we can get > 20 people >>contributing US/E 100 then there should be enough for an Itanium. >> >>So where are the other 18 or so folks? >

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Greg Thomas
On 6/8/07, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/8/07, Pieter Verberne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' > OpenBSD or a similar OS. With 'master' I mean you have all skills > to configure and use the system. You know reguar expres

Re: hoststated/spamd

2007-06-08 Thread Bob Beck
> rdr-anchor "hoststated/smtp" from > rdr proto tcp from ! to $MX port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port spamd The fact that those two table names are different looks suspiciously wrong to me. -Bob

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Ted Unangst
On 6/8/07, Pieter Verberne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' OpenBSD or a similar OS. With 'master' I mean you have all skills to configure and use the system. You know reguar expressions, thorough cli skills like pipes/vi/mg/scripts etc.

Re: hoststated/spamd

2007-06-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/06/08 16:51, Stuart Henderson wrote: > I'm feeling lazy today, has anyone already worked out how to use > greylisting with a hoststated pool that would like to share config? no takers? ok, well if anyone else needs it... (with 'service smtp' in hoststated.conf, otherwise change the anchor

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread mark reardon
yep, just donated here too: Your order currently is: -> EUR 100.00 [DON] DONATION to the OpenBSD Project -> Total: EUR 100.00 + Shipping. ... ... ... Comments: in response to Theos call to support Itanium port by dlg@ on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. On 08/06/07, Bryan Vyhmeister <[EMAIL PROTEC

PF binat question

2007-06-08 Thread Jose H.
If I want to mask one server, will this be enough: PRIV = "192.168.1.100" PUB = "24.5.0.6" binat on tl0 from $PRIV to any -> $PUB ? -- You should be the change that you want to see in the world. - Gandhi

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: Dunno what the target amount is but if we can get > 20 people contributing US/E 100 then there should be enough for an Itanium. So where are the other 18 or so folks? One more just donated $100. Bryan

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Diana Eichert
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Diana Eichert wrote: Sad, well I'll throw US$100 into the mix if someone wants to co-ordinate it. I don't have any use for Itanium, but I do know that dlg@ has done some great work, so I might as well support him in something he wa

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread John Rodenbiker
On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:58 AM, Pieter Verberne wrote: Hi there OpenBSD users, I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' OpenBSD or a similar OS. About 10 years through deliberate practice, just like any other complex area of study. See "The Role of Deliberate Practice

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Steve Tornio
I just sent a $100 donation via the orders page, for itanium...or whatever. Paul de Weerd wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:42:15PM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: | On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: | | >>anybody showed interest in suporting your Itanium request? | > | >From what I know, I t

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread mark reardon
ok - I can match Diana with 100 euros so. Cheers. On 08/06/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From what I know, I think dlg has not received any real offers > > > yet. > > > > Sad, well I'll throw US$100 into the mix if someone wants to co-ordinate > > it. I don't have any use f

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:42:15PM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: | On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: | | >>anybody showed interest in suporting your Itanium request? | > | >From what I know, I think dlg has not received any real offers | >yet. | | Sad, well I'll throw US$100 into the mix if so

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Pieter Verberne wrote: Hi there OpenBSD users, I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' OpenBSD or a similar OS. With 'master' I mean you have all skills to configure and use the system. You know reguar expressions, thorough cli skills like pipes/vi/mg/scripts etc. P

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > From what I know, I think dlg has not received any real offers > > yet. > > Sad, well I'll throw US$100 into the mix if someone wants to co-ordinate > it. I don't have any use for Itanium, but I do know that dlg@ has done > some great work, so I might as well support him in something he wan

Re: About BSD Certification

2007-06-08 Thread Almir Karic
On 6/8/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Taking a certification doesn't prove anything imho. And the way that they focus on the 4 different BSD's.. you could have someone being an expert in OpenBSD yet he has never used DragonflyBSD, would this make him less interesting to hire for a BSD

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Diana Eichert
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: anybody showed interest in suporting your Itanium request? From what I know, I think dlg has not received any real offers yet. Sad, well I'll throw US$100 into the mix if someone wants to co-ordinate it. I don't have any use for Itanium, but I do kn

Re: About BSD Certification

2007-06-08 Thread Darren Spruell
On 6/8/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org? Is this a good idea? From my perspective it looks like a smart marketing way. A way to make money from people who think this would help in some way. Read up about the

Re: Laptop won't boot with latest i386 snapshot

2007-06-08 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
Yes, it did solve the problem =) Thanks Artur. Seems that the new acpi code doesn't like my laptop. On 08 Jun 2007 09:21:19 +0200, Artur Grabowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think those are the problem though. Try disabling acpi instead. //art -- An OpenBSD user... and that's all y

Re: Laptop won't boot with latest i386 snapshot

2007-06-08 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
Pardon me but, isn't acpi and apm already enabled by default on yesterday's snapshot? acpi0 at mainbus0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SSDT acpitimer at acpi0 not configured acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (AGPB) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (P2P_) acpiec at acpi0 not co

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Theo de Raadt
> anybody showed interest in suporting your Itanium request? >From what I know, I think dlg has not received any real offers yet.

Re: need a machine for an itanium port

2007-06-08 Thread Diana Eichert
anybody showed interest in suporting your Itanium request?

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Steve Shockley
Pieter Verberne wrote: I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' OpenBSD or a similar OS. Twelve years.

Re: /usr/obj partition AWOL

2007-06-08 Thread Markus Lude
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:06:32AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Markus Lude wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 07:51:48AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > > > > > > There were some validations checkc added to partition

hoststated/spamd

2007-06-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
I'm feeling lazy today, has anyone already worked out how to use greylisting with a hoststated pool that would like to share config?

PPPoE MTU Problem

2007-06-08 Thread Will Jenkins
Hi, I've been experiencing some strange problems. I have a PPPoE/PPPoA bridging ethernet modem in the UK and am using userland ppp to connect to my DSL provider. I have been setting MTU/MRU to 1458 in ppp.conf and have been getting a *lot* of these messages: ppp[18688]: tun0: Error: ip_Inp

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Pieter Verberne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' > OpenBSD or a similar OS. Back when I started out with Unix, in the early 1990s, people told me it would take ten years to master sysadmin skills. You can quibble about that figure, bu

Re: About BSD Certification

2007-06-08 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Rico Secada wrote: Hi What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org? i think it gives me a massive erection. the quality of an admin is measurable directly as a function of the extraneous certifications they have, duh! Is this a good idea? From my perspective

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Jason Dixon
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:53:12 +0200, Antoine Jacoutot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 08 June 2007 15:49:22 Jason Dixon wrote: >> jdixon@ has been known to, yes. > > Excellent! > He should be called Julius then, not Jason. Et tu, Antoine? -- Jason Dixon DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dix

About BSD Certification

2007-06-08 Thread Rico Secada
Hi What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org? Is this a good idea? From my perspective it looks like a smart marketing way. A way to make money from people who think this would help in some way. Taking a certification doesn't prove anything imho. And the way that

Re: PF : Syntax error using macro

2007-06-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/06/08 14:10, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/06/08 14:31, Yggdrasill Senecoen wrote: > > > > I want to have the same as making 2 nat rules with each his own > > interface ($Ethernet and $Wifi), isn't possible ? > > You can do this using interface groups, you can set these up with > the i

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Friday 08 June 2007 15:49:22 Jason Dixon wrote: > jdixon@ has been known to, yes. Excellent! He should be called Julius then, not Jason. ;) -- Antoine

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Jason Dixon
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:08:50 +0200, Antoine Jacoutot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lol... do you speak about yourself in the third person? jdixon@ has been known to, yes. -- Jason Dixon DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net

Re: Sometime NAT, sometimes NOT?

2007-06-08 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Geraerts Andy wrote: We have an OpenBSD firewall running for a while now. Since a few days we encounter some sort of selective natting. I try to ping a host, I get reply, and 2 minutes later I try to ping the same host and I dont get replies. So despite the state being c

starting pppoe

2007-06-08 Thread J.D. Bronson
I cant recall if I need to do this or not... fxp1 is my NIC used to connect to my DSL modem. I have this setup: % cat /etc/hostname.tun0 !/usr/sbin/ppp -ddial isp PF=YES is set in rc.conf Do I still need to have this file? % cat /etc/hostname.fxp1 up -JD -- J.D. Bronson Telecommunic

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Friday 08 June 2007 14:59:16 you wrote: > It's very much in full swing. Beta exams were given at BSDCan and > LinuxTAG. There is some OpenBSD representation on the BSDCG (Certification > Group), including wim@ and [EMAIL PROTECTED] lol... do you speak about yourself in the third person? ;-)

Re: PF : Syntax error using macro

2007-06-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/06/08 14:31, Yggdrasill Senecoen wrote: > > I want to have the same as making 2 nat rules with each his own > interface ($Ethernet and $Wifi), isn't possible ? You can do this using interface groups, you can set these up with the ifconfig(8) 'group' option (via hostname.if, usually).

Re: carp and alias

2007-06-08 Thread Steven Surdock
Tobias Weisserth wrote: > Is it possible to let carp0 have the alias definitions like this? > > #/etc/hostname.carp0 > inet 10.0.0.250 255.255.255.0 10.0.0.255 vhid 1 pass foo > inet alias 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0 > inet alias 10.0.0.3 255.255.255.0 > inet alias 10.0.0.4 255.255.255.0 > > and remo

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Jason Dixon
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:36:35 -0400, Josh Grosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At one time, there was a BSD certification program in development. I'm > not > sure where things stand, but they do have a website: > > http://www.bsdcertification.org/ It's very much in full swing. Beta exams were g

Sometime NAT, sometimes NOT?

2007-06-08 Thread Geraerts Andy
We have an OpenBSD firewall running for a while now. Since a few days we encounter some sort of selective natting. I try to ping a host, I get reply, and 2 minutes later I try to ping the same host and I dont get replies. Running tcpdump learned us that the packet isnt always being natted. This

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread stuart van Zee
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Pieter Verberne > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 6:59 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD > > > Hi there OpenBSD users, > > I wonder how much time it took for the average

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Josh Grosse
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote: > I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' > OpenBSD or a similar OS 30 seconds. What's taking you so long? :) -> Seriously, this is an unanswerable question, since the definition of "master" is i

carp and alias

2007-06-08 Thread Tobias Weisserth
Hi everybody, I read the carp(4) manpage, the carp FAQ entry and http:// www.countersiege.com/doc/pfsync-carp/ yet I still have some questions. Let's say I have an OpenBSD host like this: #/etc/hostname.xl0 inet 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 NONE inet alias 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0 inet alias 10.0.0.

PF : Syntax error using macro

2007-06-08 Thread Yggdrasill Senecoen
Hello, I have a little problem with my pf.conf, when I use macro containing two or more interfaces, if I use these macros with the ":network" keyword on nat rules pf tell me I've made syntax error. Ex : --- Ethernet="xl0" Wifi="ral0" Lan="{" $Ethernet $Wifi "}" Ext="rl0" nat on $Ext from $La

Looking for readers of RFC's

2007-06-08 Thread Peter J. Philipp
Hi, I'm looking for up to 4000+ readers to read one RFC out loud and record it. Please contact me to be handed a number to read. I'm looking to give these to OpenBSD as a community effort. Please read my blog at http://centroid.eu for more information. -peter

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Jussi Peltola
4-5 years, but I'm still learning lots and lots every day. It really depends a lot on the definition of "mastering", since using an OS also requires understanding the real world situation where you use the OS in. I felt at home on *nix after 2-3 years, which I think is something easier to define.

Re: How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Jason Dixon
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:58:37 +0200, Pieter Verberne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there OpenBSD users, > > I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' > OpenBSD or a similar OS. With 'master' I mean you have all skills > to configure and use the system. You know reguar expre

How much time to 'master' OpenBSD

2007-06-08 Thread Pieter Verberne
Hi there OpenBSD users, I wonder how much time it took for the average person to 'master' OpenBSD or a similar OS. With 'master' I mean you have all skills to configure and use the system. You know reguar expressions, thorough cli skills like pipes/vi/mg/scripts etc. Probably most would say tha

ACPI slowness on amd64 bsd.mp

2007-06-08 Thread Laurence Tratt
The latest amd64 snapshots have ACPI enabled. On my Shuttle SN25P, with an AMD dual core processor, this leads to a significant decrease in performance. For example, given the same bsd.mp kernel on an unloaded system, here's a time'd compile of an application with ACPI disabled: gmake 50.99s us

carp advskew strange behaviour

2007-06-08 Thread Renaud Allard
Hello, I have two machines running OpenBSD-current (OpenBSD 4.1-current (GENERIC) #238: Mon Jun 4 20:03:24 MDT 2007) and I also got this on the same machines running 4.1-stable. There are 5 carp interfaces and I will only describe one but the behaviour is the same. The machine puff1 has: inet 1

Re: open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Invalid argument

2007-06-08 Thread Shag Bag
Thanks everyone who responded. Your helpful suggestions are appreciated. Being new to BSD I was struggling a bit with some of the command line differences to linux, but when I took a look at fdisk, it showed me that the MBR partition ('slice') id was A5 and not A6. Wierd. I simply changed it to

Re: Logitech G15 Keyboard

2007-06-08 Thread Jimmy Mitchener
On 6/7/07, Sam Fourman Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hello misc@ I have a Logitech G15 Keyboard, I am Extremely happy with it however, the period key on the number pad does not work like it should, it puts a ~ where a . should be this is kind of troublesome because when i key ip address it is h

Logitech G15 Keyboard

2007-06-08 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
hello misc@ I have a Logitech G15 Keyboard, I am Extremely happy with it however, the period key on the number pad does not work like it should, it puts a ~ where a . should be this is kind of troublesome because when i key ip address it is habit to use the Number pad. I was hoping someone could