Re: fdisk -- difference between 'update' and 'write'

2009-03-26 Thread Nick Guenther
So then does 'fdisk -u' also install a disklabel [to sector 0 of the disk]? That surprises me, I'd think that disklabel would be for that, and the man pages don't explain what is going on. -Nick On 26/03/2009, Brynet wrote: > Jesus(?) wrote: >> The question is: What's the mainly difference betwe

Re: the fdisk man page and the fdisk behaviour

2009-03-26 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
In message , Nick Holland wrote [[many examples of disks which don't have an n/255/63 geometry]] > I'm actually somewhat surprised how many exceptions I found > with very little effort. The only thing that surprised me > was the lack of my fi

Re: Multiple obsd installations on one harddrive

2009-03-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Volpers, Hagen wrote on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:56:07AM +0100: > But I think there is a misunderstanding. I was talking about, mmhh, > let's say fdisk partitions. I want to create two absolut independent > installations. My problem is, that disklabel always uses the whole > disc (c:), I'm not able

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread Frothingdog.ca
I really didn't realize how much this pushes everyones buttons. I thought OBSD was OBSD not matter where you go with it. I thought these questions would be fairly easy to deal with on a forum. But perhaps that's the problem. I'm putting myself into a situation where I need to ask for answers th

Re: Multiple obsd installations on one harddrive

2009-03-26 Thread Volpers, Hagen
My problem is, that we are talking about CF-card systems. I want to keep the installation small. I have a build machine here so I can create all packages needed and create my own package repository. So I'm not afraid to find out that a package is missing after upgrading. But I think there is a mis

Re: Multiple obsd installations on one harddrive

2009-03-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Hagen, Hagen Volpers wrote on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:38:27AM +0100: > I have a question regarding openbsd and partitions. > I want to have more than one obsd installation on one harddrive. At least on i386, no problem whatsoever. Just define one /root partition per installation and have the

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:53:16 -0700 (PDT), Frothingdog.ca wrote: >Wow pretty sad when people have nothing better to do then bash on someone who >is just trying to learn the ropes. I full install to flash is next on the >todo list, I wanted to figure this out because this is what was used 3+ >year

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread bofh
Everybody's young once. 15 years ago I impressed the hell out of my by putting dos/netware3/netware4/linux/windows3.1/win95/nt4/openbsd/solaris on one box - or some combo of the above (didn't have time for plan9). Then, I went - wtf? And spend my time working on kernel options. Then I went wtf

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread Frothingdog.ca
Wow pretty sad when people have nothing better to do then bash on someone who is just trying to learn the ropes. I full install to flash is next on the todo list, I wanted to figure this out because this is what was used 3+ years ago by the guy who set it up for us, I'm just trying to understand

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread Frothingdog.ca
Wow pretty sad when people have nothing better to do then bash on someone who is just trying to learn the ropes. I full install to flash is next on the todo list, I wanted to figure this out because this is what was used 3+ years ago by the guy who set it up for us, I'm just trying to understand

Multiple obsd installations on one harddrive

2009-03-26 Thread misc(at)openbsd.org
Hi @all, I have a question regarding openbsd and partitions. I want to have more than one obsd installation on one harddrive. The idea behind that question ist to be able to install a newer release in parallel, chroot into it, compile stuff, install packages etc and boot into that partition when i

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread Nick Holland
Robert wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:26:50 -0700 (PDT) > "Frothingdog.ca" wrote: > >> Ran into another small snag. >> >> Working on installing netstat, I did the exact same thing I did with >> MTR however it still doesn't work. >> >> Gives me a /dev/drum error. And I can't seem to copy that

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread Robert
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:26:50 -0700 (PDT) "Frothingdog.ca" wrote: > Ran into another small snag. > > Working on installing netstat, I did the exact same thing I did with > MTR however it still doesn't work. > > Gives me a /dev/drum error. And I can't seem to copy that drum file > into the imag

Re: SOEKRIS - How to install MTR to a Flashdist image

2009-03-26 Thread Frothingdog.ca
Ran into another small snag. Working on installing netstat, I did the exact same thing I did with MTR however it still doesn't work. Gives me a /dev/drum error. And I can't seem to copy that drum file into the image. Any thoughts? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SOEKRI

Re: fdisk -- difference between 'update' and 'write'

2009-03-26 Thread Brynet
Jesus(?) wrote: > The question is: What's the mainly difference between 'update' and 'write' on > fdisk program? The 'update' command, or.. the -u option.. updates the MBR(/usr/mdec/mbr) boot program without changing the partition table. The 'write' command commits the partition table to disk. Y

fdisk -- difference between 'update' and 'write'

2009-03-26 Thread Jesus Sanchez
I'm playing theese days with fdisk and disklabel on a vnode image as practice pourpose to face the real situation when needed. I have a concept that isn't really clear to me even after reading disklabel(8), fdisk(8) and faq. When starting with a zeroed image (or device) and doing initial 'fdisk -

Re: HP 2133

2009-03-26 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:44:43AM -0600, John Bartoszewski wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:05:01PM +0100, Christopher Intemann wrote: > > Does anyone here have OpenBSD up and running on an HP 2133 netbook? > > Yes. 4.4-current Jan 16 currently installed. > > > I wonder in particular if there

Re: Serial Technologies Expander PCI-232-108

2009-03-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> We bought one of these the other day to use as a serial console server > but I had some strife getting it to work. > > >From one expander port to another it worked fine but from one of these > ports to any normal serial port, it returned garbage. I had the same > results with FreeBSD, NetBSD an

has anyone seen this squid problem? User-Agent string being eaten?

2009-03-26 Thread bofh
Running 4.4, installed squid from ports (2.7.STABLE3). From another box, ran the following: $ squidclient -h urd.spidernet.to -p 3128 http://www.youtube.com HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:53:00 GMT Server: Apache X-YouTube-MID: WkFSZzctYUFHdmpjSDF1WjZ5RFNrSng3NklNV0RhVHQ4UG55

Re: Ideas for Getting MATLAB/Mathematica to utilize sparc64 ram that runs openbsd

2009-03-26 Thread Vivek Ayer
I tried building open-mpi on those blade machines (1000 & 2000) which run openbsd/sparc64 with the -mv8plus flag for CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, FFLAGS, and FCFLAGS. The configure script went well, but both systems crashed during make. MPICH2 seems to work better on these machines than Open-MPI. For MPICH2,

Re: systrace insecure [was: Re: chroot browser]

2009-03-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Theo de Raadt > wrote: > > > real; systrace does have the ability to "grant root" unless you build > > Should that read "does not"? > > > the policy specifically to do such a stupid thing (actually, I am not Oh, indeed. Sorry. systrace cannot grant root u

Re: systrace insecure [was: Re: chroot browser]

2009-03-26 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > real; systrace does have the ability to "grant root" unless you build Should that read "does not"? > the policy specifically to do such a stupid thing (actually, I am not -g

Re: "persistent bios infection" paper and openbsd

2009-03-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Wed, 25.03.2009 at 10:05:13 -0600, Theo de Raadt > wrote: > > The operating systems are not vulnerable. > > > > The *machines* are. > > this begs the question: Which machines are NOT vulnerable? PC's with real roms. Hahaha. > > There really is absolutely nothing we can do about it. > >

Re: "persistent bios infection" paper and openbsd

2009-03-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 26.03.2009 um 18:45 schrieb Toni Mueller: > this begs the question: Which machines are NOT vulnerable? All !x86 machines, of course ;). -- Jonathan [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of PGP.sig]

Re: "persistent bios infection" paper and openbsd

2009-03-26 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 25.03.2009 at 10:05:13 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > The operating systems are not vulnerable. > > The *machines* are. this begs the question: Which machines are NOT vulnerable? > There really is absolutely nothing we can do about it. I'd say that, at least for running machines,

Re: European orders

2009-03-26 Thread patric conant
This doesn't seem reasonable to me, I understand there can be a variety of subtleties and points of view, but either the guy is in arrears on his payments to the project or he isn't, does he really have a story that involves him not having received any product for which he has not remitted payment?

Re: European orders

2009-03-26 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 25.03.2009 at 17:37:54 +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:51 PM, frantisek holop wrote: > > Theo has made some serious allegations and i hope he has evidence > > to back it up. > Theo may be many things,... but a liar I have never found him to be. I don't have pe

Re: HP 2133

2009-03-26 Thread John Bartoszewski
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:05:01PM +0100, Christopher Intemann wrote: > Does anyone here have OpenBSD up and running on an HP 2133 netbook? Yes. 4.4-current Jan 16 currently installed. > I wonder in particular if there is support for > the pc-card interface Haven't tried yet. I should have a E

Re: Parallel build in ports - make -j4

2009-03-26 Thread Dave Wilson
Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > I'm not happy with this approach of delaying all parallel building > until things are perfect. In practice, a lot could be gained by > simply marking all ports that are parallel-safe right now (or > conversely, marking all those that aren't), without attempting to

Re: Parallel build in ports - make -j4

2009-03-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Marc Espie wrote: > > > > > export PARALLEL_BUILD=Yes > > > > export MAKE_JOBS=4 > > > > > > N.B. this does not work with all ports. > > > > Yep, does not work with all ports. And I still have stuff I need to fix > > in make itself before we even think of fixing the ports that don't work > >

Re: disabling drivers at runtime?

2009-03-26 Thread Sebastian Rother
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:50:13 -0400 Daniel Ouellet wrote: > >> Instead of exit, you type quit and it will save the changes, oppose to > >> exit that do not. > > > > That method does not work! > > I tried it! > > Just FYI, in the FAQ it does saw in the first paragraph at the start of > the seco

Re: Parallel build in ports - make -j4

2009-03-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:18:40PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Marc Espie wrote: > > > > > export PARALLEL_BUILD=Yes > > > > export MAKE_JOBS=4 > > > > > > N.B. this does not work with all ports. > > > > Yep, does not work with all ports. And I still have stuff I need to fix > > in mak

Tape drive not detected on LSI 20320

2009-03-26 Thread (private) HKS
OpenBSD 4.4 on a Dell Poweredge 2950. SCSI card is an LSI 20320, tape drive is Dell Powervault 124T (aka IBM Ultrium-TD3). The tape drive shows up in the card's BIOS, but dmesg sees it as a SCSI device with no drivers: # dmesg | grep mpi0 mpi0 at pci6 dev 8 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c1030"

Re: systrace insecure [was: Re: chroot browser]

2009-03-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 26.03.2009 um 16:12 schrieb Theo de Raadt: > They freaked out and did the wrong thing. It was removed when I reported a bug in NETBSD-5-0 that would crash the Kernel when you tried to use systrace. Instead of fixing that, they removed it. > systrace has a small problem. It is a very diff

Re: Parallel build in ports - make -j4

2009-03-26 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Marc Espie wrote: > > > export PARALLEL_BUILD=Yes > > > export MAKE_JOBS=4 > > > > N.B. this does not work with all ports. > > Yep, does not work with all ports. And I still have stuff I need to fix > in make itself before we even think of fixing the ports that don't work I'm not happy with th

Re: systrace insecure [was: Re: chroot browser]

2009-03-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > I guess you should take a look at Systrace: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systrace > > > This was removed from NetBSD some time ago because it is vulnerable. > They said it's not only possible to circumvent it, but also gain root > using it. Is this fixed in OpenBSD somehow? They frea

Re: HP 2133

2009-03-26 Thread Kamil Monticolo
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:05:01 +0100 Christopher Intemann wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone here have OpenBSD up and running on an HP 2133 netbook? > I wonder in particular if there is support for the pc-card interface and the > audio device? Since it has VIA graphics, running X shouldn't be too much o

systrace insecure [was: Re: chroot browser]

2009-03-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 26.03.2009 um 07:17 schrieb Tobias Weisserth: > I guess you should take a look at Systrace: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systrace This was removed from NetBSD some time ago because it is vulnerable. They said it's not only possible to circumvent it, but also gain root using it. Is this

Re: disabling drivers at runtime?

2009-03-26 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Instead of exit, you type quit and it will save the changes, oppose to exit that do not. That method does not work! I tried it! Just FYI, in the FAQ it does saw in the first paragraph at the start of the second line "These changes will then take place on your next reboot.". So no it's not p

HP 2133

2009-03-26 Thread Christopher Intemann
Hello, Does anyone here have OpenBSD up and running on an HP 2133 netbook? I wonder in particular if there is support for the pc-card interface and the audio device? Since it has VIA graphics, running X shouldn't be too much of an issue... Regards, Chris

Re: chroot browser

2009-03-26 Thread Rene Maroufi
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 01:58:45AM -0400, punoseva...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi misc, > > I was wondering if you could give me some input about the following security > matter. It seems to me that using a web-browser, an email client, and > a chat client (if permitted at all) are the > un-safest for

Re: Ideas for Getting MATLAB/Mathematica to utilize sparc64 ram that runs openbsd

2009-03-26 Thread Paul Irofti
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 06:43:54PM -0700, Vivek Ayer wrote: > Yes please. I'd love to take a look at the code. My laptop and everything else is packed because I'm leaving in a few hours so you'll have to do with an archive link. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=119480513327121&w=2

Re: fetching packages from mirrors with pkg_add uses uninitialized value

2009-03-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:03:57AM +0100, soko.tica wrote: > Hello list, > > I am encountering a strange behavior during the attempts to fetch > packages by pkg_add from ftp and http main servers and several > mirrors, both for 4.3 and 4.4 (releases). > > FTP connection is refused both from main

fetching packages from mirrors with pkg_add uses uninitialized value

2009-03-26 Thread soko.tica
Hello list, I am encountering a strange behavior during the attempts to fetch packages by pkg_add from ftp and http main servers and several mirrors, both for 4.3 and 4.4 (releases). FTP connection is refused both from main server and one second-level mirror. HTTP connection is permitted, and th

Re: disabling drivers at runtime?

2009-03-26 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:45:09AM +0100, Sebastian Rother wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:56:48 -0400 > Daniel Ouellet wrote: > > > Sebastian Rother wrote: > > > Is it possible to disable for example ehci at runtime? > > > As far as I understand I can use config -e -f /bsd to modify the BSD > >

Re: chroot browser

2009-03-26 Thread P Arun Babu
ok , You can just create a Low Privileged user account ( webuser ) whose home is at /home/webuser or may be /tmp and then use any browser , any client -ARUN --- On Wed, 25/3/09, punoseva...@gmail.com wrote: From: punoseva...@gmail.com Subject: chroot browser To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Wed