Re: the fdisk man page and the fdisk behaviour (OT)

2009-03-31 Thread Raymond Lillard
frantisek holop wrote: > > -f > > -- > number of vulcans to replace a bulb? precisely 1.00. Are you sure it isn't 1.000? or maybe 1.? Way back in the Dark Ages when I went to school, 1 was thought to be more precise than 1.00. I think it still might be so in some circles.

qemu build on openbsd/sparc64

2009-03-31 Thread Vivek Ayer
Hey guys, Has anyone gotten qemu to build on openbsd/sparc64 yet? If so, what were your configure options? Thanks, Vivek

Re: dvd-rw as user?

2009-03-31 Thread OpenBSD
El miC), 01-04-2009 a las 16:14 +1300, richardtoo...@paradise.net.nz escribiC3: > Quoting OpenBSD : > > > Hello > > > > Could somebody please tell me how to use a dvd-rw as user? > > I'am trying to install Slackware using qemu, and the dvd does not work > > properly, it works well as root. > > I'

Re: dvd-rw as user?

2009-03-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:13:33PM -0700, OpenBSD wrote: > Hello > > Could somebody please tell me how to use a dvd-rw as user? > I'am trying to install Slackware using qemu, and the dvd does not work > properly, it works well as root. > I've tried adding the user to operator group, users group,

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-31 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Michael Grigoni wrote: > A modular approach to an O/S would be welcome; say a major version every five > years, with an a la carte menu of features, which are subject to versioning > much like there is a 'version 3 MS-Windows', with known performance > characteristics > and r

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Mr. de Raadt, > > you are the guy that has accused Mr. Vandeputte in public. You are the guy > that failed to put > any evicence on the public table. Stop whining, show your evidence like Mr. > Vandeputte has > and is apparen

Re: dvd-rw as user?

2009-03-31 Thread richardtoohey
Quoting OpenBSD : > Hello > > Could somebody please tell me how to use a dvd-rw as user? > I'am trying to install Slackware using qemu, and the dvd does not work > properly, it works well as root. > I've tried adding the user to operator group, users group, and declaring > it at fstab without opt

Re: the fdisk man page and the fdisk behaviour

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 05:05:10AM +0200, frantisek holop said that > i wonder what will happen when 65536/255/63 is reached, > what kind of frankenstein translation table will come into life > just to save c/h/s again. maybe there will come an LBA only age, > i mean fdisk-wise, not disk-wise

Re: the fdisk man page and the fdisk behaviour

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, i am just reading up on things, and here is a very nice explanation how and why some of the bioses chose their geometry. http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesECHS-c.html quite some russian rulette, innit :] it also kind of explains why when a certain disk capacity is surpassed, on

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread SJP Lists
2009/4/1 Daniel Seuffert : > Mr. de Raadt, > > I don't care what you do for a living. If it's not enough get a job and > work like anybody else. > > Daniel Seuffert Theo works hard and from the goodness of his heart we all benefit from it. But you have a problem with him expecting to receive pa

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dvd-rw as user?

2009-03-31 Thread OpenBSD
Hello Could somebody please tell me how to use a dvd-rw as user? I'am trying to install Slackware using qemu, and the dvd does not work properly, it works well as root. I've tried adding the user to operator group, users group, and declaring it at fstab without optimum results. BTW, when i try

Re: the fdisk man page and the fdisk behaviour

2009-03-31 Thread Nick Holland
frantisek holop wrote: > first of all, thanks Nick for your time going through > all of that. here is my answer. it is all quite i386 > specific though. You have to remember, the OpenBSD project doesn't have that luxury. These guys bust their butts to keep OpenBSD clean and 100% functional on 1

Re: interrupt count in the clouds on a new msi notebook

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:32:18PM +0200, frantisek holop said that > i will reboot this machine asap with ahci setting in the bios... that, unfortunately resulted in this: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6118 lots of new hardware in this machine :] -f --

Packet Filter Documentation

2009-03-31 Thread Fernando Quintero
Hello misc@, Announced the availability of two documents related to the PF world. The Link [1] can download a document where I speak about the basic functioning of PacketFilter, it tell you how to apply the filter rules. A second document is a little more advanced, there I propose 3 scenarios to

Re: crypto framework question

2009-03-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:51:07AM +0200, Sebastian Rother wrote: > Well could you at least once forget about personal differences and > answer the question if you don't mind? I tried to give you pointers a few days ago, then you said not to take your example seriously (then you went on to give mo

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
frantisek, technically, yes he is. north american :} Now everyone's insulted. :-D -- Aaron W. Hsu | "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat +++ ((lambda (x)

Re: crypto framework question

2009-03-31 Thread Sebastian Rother
Well could you at least once forget about personal differences and answer the question if you don't mind? I'd be happy... and others might be happy as well 'course they might be interested also. But of course your answers are always enlightend anyway.. Regards, Sebastian > Obviously this wouldn'

Re: crypto framework question

2009-03-31 Thread Marco Peereboom
Obviously this wouldn't work for you because you are incapable of doing anything right. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:43:19PM +0200, Sebastian Rother wrote: > After reading man 4 crypto and co I have a question I can not answer. > If I would put multiple VPN cards at a single board, would it scale? >

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:35:15PM -0500, John Brooks said that > that was the entire point of my original post, they > strip out their queue id from their acknowledgment > for "security reasons", and then "accept all mail" > including bogus recipients. > > I was curious if this practice is v

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:48:54PM -0400, Ted Unangst said that > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Richard Ben Aleya > wrote: > > We do not want to purchase CDs to pay the salary of an American guy who > > Bitch, please. Now I'm insulted. You think Theo's an American? Fuck you. technical

crypto framework question

2009-03-31 Thread Sebastian Rother
After reading man 4 crypto and co I have a question I can not answer. If I would put multiple VPN cards at a single board, would it scale? And if not what accelerator is choosed? What would happen if I have for example a VIA CPU with HW AES + a Soekris VPN 1411 (which does AES too). Btw: Is the

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-31 Thread John Brooks
that was the entire point of my original post, they strip out their queue id from their acknowledgment for "security reasons", and then "accept all mail" including bogus recipients. I was curious if this practice is very widespread or not. -- John Brooks j...@day-light.com ... > In our mail log

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Ross Cameron
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Richard Ben Aleya < richard.benal...@gmail.com> wrote: > We do not want to purchase CDs to pay the salary of an American guy who > does not respect European citizens. Now we know the man you are. I think officially he's Canadian now,... origionally South African.

Re: intel 5400 chipset support, was: Re: raidframe and hotplugd on 4.4

2009-03-31 Thread Joseph A Borg
from this page I got to the intel page listing ahci chipsets that support hotswapping: http://openbsd.lechtermann.net/cgi?action=article&sid=2007031256 http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imst/sb/CS-012304.htm AHCI is built into chipsets with the following controller hubs:  Intel.

Re: OpenBSD mta with postfix

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 02:46:13PM -0500, John Brooks said that > I've just received this response from a large corporate email > system regarding their claim that emails sent to them are not > getting through even though our logs contain acknowledgements > of accepting the mail sent. > > I

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Gregg Reynolds
> --Original Message-- > From: Daniel Seuffert > Sender: owner-m...@openbsd.org > > I don't care what you do for a living. B If it's not enough get a job and > work like anybody else. > DANGER, THEO, DANGER!! This "get a job" stuff - it's a dastardly trick! I've tried getting a job and w

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Ross Cameron
+1 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:17 PM, David Schulz wrote: > best statement so far.. > > On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 01:08:14AM +1000, michael enoma aghayere wrote: > > There is a saying where i am from: > > When two elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers. > > > > People, let us allow Theo and kd

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/3/25, Alf Schlichting : > On a side note, I see a OpenBSD 4.5 DVD there, is it authorized? > http://www.ixsoft.de/cgi-bin/web_store.cgi?ref=Products/de/IXOB0450DV.html I doubt it - note the price (9,90 ). Best Martin

Re: the fdisk man page and the fdisk behaviour

2009-03-31 Thread frantisek holop
first of all, thanks Nick for your time going through all of that. here is my answer. it is all quite i386 specific though. hmm, on Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:34:38PM -0400, Nick Holland said that > I really don't want to ignore what you call an "exotic geometry". > A lot of people seem to think th

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Gordon Grieder
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:47:16AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > or about beer he gave people at the events? Shhh, you'll anger The Europeans!

relayctl host disable doesn't loop through all hosts

2009-03-31 Thread Pascal Lalonde
Hello, I've been playing with relayd lately. There is a behavior which seems unintuitive and I was wondering if that was a bug or the intended behavior. When I try to disable a host (e.g.: relayctl host disable 10.0.1.101), and that host is part of more than one table, only the first occurence ge

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread gilbert . fernandes
Dear Daniel. OpenBSD is Theo's'work, and his life. He, with all the OpenBSD developers, design, write code and made, make what OpenBSD is. This means it is their operating system, they do the choices of technologies and how they implement them in their operating system. If it happens that you

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Stefan Wollny
> -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- > Von: "Alexander Bochmann" > Gesendet: 31.03.09 18:17:21 > An: misc@openbsd.org > Betreff: Re: European orders  > As for the bickering about details of obviously undocumented > arrangements - well, they are just that: undocumented arrangements. > Can work, c

Re: Dual-head OpenBSD 4.5 and NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT

2009-03-31 Thread Theo de Raadt
> This is my xorg.conf which works on the 4.4 snapshot I was running. > Unfortunately I can't get three screens going, and the 4.5 snapshot I > tried to upgrade to on Friday is currently crashing on startup, so I > can't tell if it's any better yet. This may well be a factor, as my > xorg.conf

Re: Dual-head OpenBSD 4.5 and NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT

2009-03-31 Thread Peter
This is my xorg.conf which works on the 4.4 snapshot I was running. Unfortunately I can't get three screens going, and the 4.5 snapshot I tried to upgrade to on Friday is currently crashing on startup, so I can't tell if it's any better yet. This may well be a factor, as my xorg.conf is pretty

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread David Schulz
best statement so far.. On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 01:08:14AM +1000, michael enoma aghayere wrote: > There is a saying where i am from: > When two elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers. > > People, let us allow Theo and kd85.com settle their differences > without us fanning the flames. > Wit

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Hi, ...on Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:35:08PM +0200, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > I know Wim personally for many years, I have seen some of his work and > I have the deepest respect for him and what he has done. Absolutely. From my point of view, Wim's constant presence and marketing activity was an

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread ropers
2009/3/31 Lars Noodin : > > 2) Bank transfer reputation - the banks have a reputation for being > difficult about European inter-state transfers. That includes tacking > on charges and fees even when their own rules state otherwise. Delays > and lost payments are not rare enough. > > It seems lik

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Ross Cameron
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > I don't care what you do for a living. If it's not enough get a job and > work like anybody else. Not wanting to fan the flames anymore than has been done,... but uhm OpenBSD is Theo's job! Ok maybe (nor sure) not directly,... but i

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Daniel Seuffert
Theo de Raadt wrote: Mr. de Raadt, you are the guy that has accused Mr. Vandeputte in public. You are the guy that failed to put any evicence on the public table. Stop whining, show your evidence like Mr. Vandeputte has and is apparently preparing to show up in the very near future. I have r

Re: raidctl -vF component0 raid0

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Harries
Thank you for your reply Alexis, I did suspect with it being B it was an issue and I should use D, so I did this, but when issuing raidctl -vF component0 raid0 It still just sits there and says about quescience reached but doesn't bring up the reconstruction bar or seam to reconstruct it. I'm lear

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread michael enoma aghayere
There is a saying where i am from: When two elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers. People, let us allow Theo and kd85.com settle their differences without us fanning the flames. With time, even this will pass. -- ~michael www.BSDqed.com

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Wim's statement... > > | The understanding was that the 'leftover money', the difference > | between what I paid and the discounted price, would be spent on > | OpenBSD activities in Europe. > > ... is complete news to me. Indeed naddy, it should be news to you, because there was no such "unde

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Isn't there any OpenBSD guy defending Mr. Wim Vandeputte, a man > having promoted OpenBSD year in and year out and having supported the > project in Europe like nobody else probably? As you probably know, I've been behind the counter at Wim's booth many times. All this

Re: raidctl -vF component0 raid0

2009-03-31 Thread Alexis de BRUYN
> > A: 144522 4.2BSD (this is the 64MB drive to boot off > > B: 1953375480 RAID (this is the RAID data partition > > C: 1953523055 UNUSED Using 'b' (even 'c') is not a good idea for me too. Try on your second disk (mirror), before configuring RAID, with the two following partitions: a:512M

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:43:19AM +0200, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > Lars NoodC)n writes: > > > 2) Bank transfer reputation - the banks have a reputation for being > > difficult about European inter-state transfers. That includes tacking > > on charges and fees even when their own rules state

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Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread bofh
since this thread is so OOT now... On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:50 AM, David Schulz wrote: > The European Council has spoken. > > Jesus Dude, calm down. > > Europe is, by convention, one of the world's seven continents. Comprising the Wrong! It's part of Asia! Just because you guys claim it's a c

Re: Dual-head OpenBSD 4.5 and NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT

2009-03-31 Thread Kamil Monticolo
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:57:37 +0100 Peter wrote: Peter, thanks a lot, I need to properly set DualHead option, only. -- Kamil Monticolo

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Lazarus Wasbeim
> > *years* in paying the full value - what the hell does this mean > > ?,full-value ??? ,surely there is a declared invoice value which gets > > paid, you can't really retrospectively > > change the invoices. > > Each CD has a manufacturing cost. > Then there is a sale cost from the Computer Shop

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:33 PM, David Schulz wrote: > Jeez i cant believe all this goes on on misc@ , truth be told the best would > have been to setup a 2nd trustworthy distributor in Europe, and silently move > over the European Order Sites control to the new Guy. Then, or at the same > time,

Re: Dual-head OpenBSD 4.5 and NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT

2009-03-31 Thread Kamil Monticolo
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:22:52 +0200 Tobias Sarnowski wrote: > Hi Kamil, > > maybe I missed the point but the option "DualHead" works fine if using > the "nv" driver. If I remember correctly it is necessary to have the > same resolution on both monitors when working with DualHead. > Thanks Tobia

Re: smtpd authentication?

2009-03-31 Thread Jacek Masiulaniec
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:49:29AM -0400, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > Does the recently linked in smtpd support things like certificate based > authentication for relay? Not yet. It will at one point.

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Peter J. Philipp
Since Theo mentioned that some people were misled with donations and CD orders let me count up who I think gets money with OpenBSD CD's. Feel free to correct me. 1. Theo gets an undisclosed amount out of the sale, this pays for the server farm's electricity, leased lines and his income. 2. Ty

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread David Schulz
The European Council has spoken. Jesus Dude, calm down. Europe is, by convention, one of the world's seven continents. Comprising the westernmost peninsula of Eurasia, Europe is generally divided from Asia to its east by the water divide of the Ural Mountains, the Ural River, the Caspian Sea, a

Re: Interactions between PF and enc0

2009-03-31 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-03-31, Juan Miscaro wrote: > 14:15:19.913539 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0xcefeac0c: > truncated-ip6 - 48 bytes missing!esp B::2 > A::2 spi 0xF2FC992F seq 30 > len 148 (len 148, hlim 63) # ESP - encapsulated ICMPv6 Echo Reply from > D::1 to C::1. > > [...] > > The 'bytes missing' might b

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Henning Brauer
* Lars Noodin [2009-03-31 10:28]: > 2) Bank transfer reputation - the banks have a reputation for being > difficult about European inter-state transfers. That includes tacking > on charges and fees even when their own rules state otherwise. Delays > and lost payments are not rare enough. this i

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent Barus
*snip* >> If they are as intelligent as I guess, they will not communicate on >> this list. Making this public was a huge mistake. *snip* > We have been trying to get Wim to catch up on payments for more than > two years -- privately. *snip* > Then after a few smaller postings, Wim posted a large w

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Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Lars NoodC)n writes: > 2) Bank transfer reputation - the banks have a reputation for being > difficult about European inter-state transfers. That includes tacking > on charges and fees even when their own rules state otherwise. Delays > and lost payments are not rare enough. Traditionally bank

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Stefan Olsson
Richard Ben Aleya wrote: But this conflict does not give you the rights in any manner to insult the Europeans and their culture (you reference to the "beer"). We cannot accept a such behaviour. European people is offended when they read such things. We do not want to purchase CDs to pay the sa

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Lars Noodén
Theo de Raadt wrote: > Any distributor can buy them in >=20CDs at a 40% discount. Some > larger distributors got a bit more of a discount, but typically > not much. And there the debugging process can start. In North America there seems to be a fortunate constellation of services and practices

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-31 Thread Artur Grabowski
Michael Grigoni writes: > I also add my thanks to the discussion. I do have a fundamental > question to pose however. It seems that opensource culture for > large projects is driven by featurism and the need to make massive > changes incorporated into frequent releases. I come from a > backgrou

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Artur Grabowski
Richard Ben Aleya writes: > But this conflict does not give you the rights in any manner to > insult the Europeans and their culture (you reference to the "beer"). > > We cannot accept a such behaviour. > > European people is offended when they read such things. Obvious troll. Trolls should be m

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Jean-Francois
I agree. Should one take care about this at the moment I guess I have no time at all to start this activity. Le mardi 31 mars 2009 C 13:33 +0800, David Schulz a C)crit : > Jeez i cant believe all this goes on on misc@ , truth be told the best would > have been to setup a 2nd trustworthy distribu

Re: slave data HDD drives waking up without access

2009-03-31 Thread Richard Toohey
On 31/03/2009, at 6:49 AM, Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: Hi, First of all I would prefer to awayke disks weekly instead of daily for just the df purpose. I would try to do this, your advises are also welcome if any. [cut] The best is in my case to switch the df to weekly and put the time of that

Re: European orders

2009-03-31 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 01:37:29AM +0200, Richard Ben Aleya wrote: > We cannot accept a such behaviour. Who is "we"? > European people is offended when they read such things. I'm from Europe, and i don't feel offended. Please don't speak up in my name. Ciao, Kili

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-31 Thread Jesus Sanchez
David Schulz escribis: For me, i cant even estimate the time and effort that goes into all the related work and issues for OpenBSD, and thus am more than thankful. OpenBSD sits in every important Corner for two Businesses i am involved in, I could not live without it. I purchase each CD that come