Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-27 Thread Jason Dixon
On Jul 26, 2005, at 11:24 PM, Matthew Bettinger wrote: Hello, Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities. I know I can go piecemeal one from FRY'

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-27 Thread Steve Shockley
Matthew Bettinger wrote: > I was glancing at the sunfire v20z , ibm xseries 306 and HP DL360 > with Smart Array 6i. The dl360 looks like it fits the bill but I > have had problems in the past with the smart array on older DL class > boxes. The server(s) will be used for web sh

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-27 Thread Marco Peereboom
I run heaps off Dell PowerEdge 1550, 1650, 1750 and 1850 without issues. On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 10:24:18PM -0500, Matthew Bettinger wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW > that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a ma

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-27 Thread Kevin
On 7/27/05, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 10:24:18PM -0500, Matthew Bettinger wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW > > that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine > >

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Brandon Mercer
Matthew Bettinger wrote: >Hello, > >Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW >that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine >that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities. I know I can go >piecemeal one from FRY's but I

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Beck
ou then tell OpenBSD to use a serial console in the usual way. Just my experiences. -Bob * Matthew Bettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-27 18:47]: > Hello, > > Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW > that will run OpenBSD for webserver

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Beck
d success running i386. 650's and 750's are ide only. I don't have an 1850 because by the time they came out, Dell didn't have an amd64 based server, and Sun and IBM did, so we switched. Prior to that I bought lots of dell stuff and had good experiences with them. (still do w

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Kevin
On 7/28/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I don't have an 1850 because by the time they came out, > Dell didn't have an amd64 based server, and Sun and IBM did, so we > switched. Prior to that I bought lots of dell stuff and had good > experiences wit

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Brandon Mercer
Kevin wrote: >On 7/28/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I don't have an 1850 because by the time they came out, >>Dell didn't have an amd64 based server, and Sun and IBM did, so we >>switched. Prior to that I bought lots of dell

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Beck
> At work I don't really have a choice -- we can either buy Sun or > Dell, or spend weeks justifying not using the approved vendors. > Then my reccomendation under your supported hardware agreement is exactly what I use: sun V20Z server Dell Perc

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Gustavo Rios
1650, 1750 machines > with good success. I use the ami builtin for raid on the 1650 and 1750 > with good success running i386. 650's and 750's are ide only. > >I don't have an 1850 because by the time they came out, > Dell didn't have an amd64 based server,

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 17:36 -0300, Gustavo Rios wrote: > Why do you say that? performance and security implications amd64 supports W^X in hardware, i386 doesn't. -- Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2005-07-28 13:21:06 -0600, Bob Beck wrote: > BTW, my one bitch about the v20z is sun are a bunch of retards > and put all the vents on the top and bottom, so I'm reluctant to rack > them one on top of the other. The only thing from Sun on the v20z is the label (and an os which you won't u

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Richard Welty
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:38:31 -0600 Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are running production web servers on OpenBSD running on IBM > 325E's as well as Sun V20Z's, running OpenBSD. We've had decent luck > with both the i386 and amd64 distro on those. I have used a demo HP > with good s

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Beck
* Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-28 14:58]: > On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 17:36 -0300, Gustavo Rios wrote: > > Why do you say that? performance and security implications > > amd64 supports W^X in hardware, i386 doesn't. > Bingo. You got it. -Bob

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Theo de Raadt
> * Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-28 14:58]: > > On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 17:36 -0300, Gustavo Rios wrote: > > > Why do you say that? performance and security implications > > > > amd64 supports W^X in hardware, i386 doesn't. > > > > Bingo. You got it. This is hogwash. Our

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-28 Thread Gustavo Rios
And about performance reason? Thanks once more. On 7/28/05, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Shawn K. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-28 14:58]: > > > On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 17:36 -0300, Gustavo Rios wrote: > > > > Why do you say that? performance and security implications > >

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-29 Thread Bob Beck
> That is not a valid security reason. Sorry. > Hogwash. It is when the machine doesn't run OpenBSD. Not all of mine do. and I don't count on *any* vendor other than OpenBSD doing anything like W^X on i386. (i.e. solaris, windows, etc.) I do expect in the next year or two we will see stu

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-29 Thread Ioan Nemes
Kevin wrote: While Sun is offering some very nice AMD64 (and Sparc64) kit, Sun just never seems to understand that customers want embedded hardware RAID controllers on the motherboard. Kevin Kadow No need for such thing, it would make things (much) more expensive, DiskSuite will do. Ioan

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-29 Thread Ioan Nemes
Martin Schrvder wrote: On 2005-07-28 13:21:06 -0600, Bob Beck wrote: BTW, my one bitch about the v20z is sun are a bunch of retards and put all the vents on the top and bottom, so I'm reluctant to rack them one on top of the other. The only thing from Sun on the v20z is the la

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-30 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2005-07-30 13:01:32 +1000, Ioan Nemes wrote: > Martin Schrvder wrote: > >The only thing from Sun on the v20z is the label (and an os > >which you won't use). > Yes, and Dell is all re-branded Intel. Next time you see a v20z read the label at the back. Best Martin -- ht

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-07-30 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2005-07-30 14:13:25 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: > On 2005-07-30 13:01:32 +1000, Ioan Nemes wrote: > > Martin Schrvder wrote: > > >The only thing from Sun on the v20z is the label (and an os > > >which you won't use). > > Yes, and Dell is all re-branded Intel. > > Next time you see a v20z read

blackdog "worlds smallest" server....

2005-08-12 Thread b h
Hi folk has anyone every attempted (or would it be possible (relatively painlessly)) to get openbsd running on something like this? http://www.projectblackdog.com/site/product.html it comes with linux kernel, but I would love a few of these around with OpenBSD to use as a secure ultra portable b

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Chris
Brandon Mercer wrote: > Matthew Bettinger wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW >>that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine >>that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Kevin
On 8/23/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brandon Mercer wrote: > > Matthew Bettinger wrote: > >>Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW > >>that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine > >>that has

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Chris
Kevin wrote: > On 8/23/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Brandon Mercer wrote: >> >>>Matthew Bettinger wrote: >>> >>>>Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW >>>>that will run OpenBSD for webs

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Jason Dixon
On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote: If you can go beyond the big vendors, you might also look at smaller companies that support OpenBSD. Iron Systems, Sera Systems, etc. I've been getting quotes from Iron Systems the last few days. I haven't ordered any of their hardware yet, but the

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Matthew Bettinger
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jason Dixon > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:33 PM > To: Kevin > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: 1U server recommendation > > On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote:

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Kevin
o my queries regarding serial BIOS redirection and OpenBSD supported cards. I'm working on a serial console server project and have some odd requirements to meet, plus a (relatively) tight budget. > I ended up buying one machine (for starters) from the folks at Iron > Systems. They m

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Don Boling
Matthew Bettinger wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Dixon Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:33 PM To: Kevin Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: 1U server recommendation On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote: If you can

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Diana Eichert
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Jason Dixon wrote: > On Aug 23, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Kevin wrote: > > > If you can go beyond the big vendors, you might also look at smaller > > companies that support OpenBSD. Iron Systems, Sera Systems, etc. > > I've been getting quotes from Iron Systems the last few days.

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Diana Eichert
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Don Boling wrote: SNIP > Are their sales staff very knowledgeable? Dell's are not! > The Dell rep asked me what kind of "Windows version", BSD was. > He was schooled. > > --don they speak BSD just fine diana

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-23 Thread Diana Eichert
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Kevin wrote: > I've been getting quotes from Bob Sidhu at Iron Systems for the last > few hours, he's been very responsive to my queries regarding serial > BIOS redirection and OpenBSD supported cards. Bob Sidhu has always been very helpful to me in the past. Iron Systems ev

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-24 Thread Johan P . Lindström
On 7/27/05, Matthew Bettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW > that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine > that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities. I know I c

Re: 1U server recommendation

2005-08-24 Thread Ryan Corder
Diana Eichert wrote: > Bob Sidhu has always been very helpful to me in the past. Iron Systems > even helped me out in one of the hardware fundraisers I did or maybe they > actually provided hardware, gee I can't remember. I too have been getting quotes from them the past few days. Although I can

web server pf problem

2005-08-30 Thread amansnews
Hi I have a problem with openbsd with pf I try to do [(fxp0) - 100.0.100.10] -> [web server 1 (100.0.100.1)] | [openbsd (xl0)] <---> Internet | [(sis0) - 100.0.200.10] -> [web server 2 (100.0.200.1)] i hope it's enough clear... So my problem is that i can&#

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:58:48 -0800 "Bruno S. Delbono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > One of our servers got hacked this morning. The culprit turned out to be > mambo. This is a second time this has happened with mambo and I am ready > to junk it. I would've junked it the first time thoug

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Edd Barrett
> Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS? Tried postnuke or phpnuke or one of the other hundreds of varients based around the word "nuke"? I love the way these people have a website telling you all about them. Regards Edd

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Gaby vanhegan
On 26 Nov 2005, at 11:18, Edd Barrett wrote: >> Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS? > > Tried postnuke or phpnuke or one of the other hundreds of varients > based around the word "nuke"? I've heard that they're not great in terms of security either. Have you considered Ruby on R

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:58:48 -0800, "Bruno S. Delbono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi All, > >One of our servers got hacked this morning. The culprit turned out to be >mambo. This is a second time this has happened with mambo and I am ready >to junk it. > >Is there a better, more secure replacem

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread knitti
this is a bit off-topic, but hey On 11/26/05, Bruno S. Delbono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS? use google, there are tons of cms out there, your question is obviously too generic. look at their vulnerabilities, look at their code, look at their

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Darrin Chandler
knitti wrote: try avoiding anything in php. try avoiding anything in perl. yes, with both languages it is _possible_ to write secure code, but actually very seldom practiced. Everything else is a matter of taste and the task to solve. This is a shame about perl, but I can't say you're wrong.

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Bernd Schoeller
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 09:36:46AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > But this isn't really a perl problem, or a php problem. It's possible to > write secure code in many environments, but it's not easy. Most cms > developers worry more about having tons of features than about secure > code. "Security

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Bruno S. Delbono wrote: Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS? typo3 Stephan

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:56:41PM +0100, knitti said that > try avoiding anything in php. try avoiding anything in perl. yes, with that is a silly advice. if one knows what to look for, php and perl are just as secure as anything else. as with anything else, there are security conscious ph

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Bruno S. Delbono
t being visible. However, thanks to complexities, we also need Identity managers etc. that glue on the webserver and of course webmail which is a java based webmail solution (Sun JES Server). Looking deeper into plone, I can't find it being anymore secure than mambo and the complexities i

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-26 Thread Jason Dixon
On Nov 26, 2005, at 7:39 PM, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:56:41PM +0100, knitti said that try avoiding anything in php. try avoiding anything in perl. yes, with that is a silly advice. if one knows what to look for, php and perl are just as secure as anything else.

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-11-27 Thread Fabien Germain
On 11/27/05, Bruno S. Delbono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a secure php CMS that any of you might have had experience with > (knowing full well that php and security are an oxymoron) Did you try SPIP (http://www.spip.net) ? Several big french websites use it. Fabien

Re: Mambo Server hacks

2005-12-15 Thread chefren
On 11/26/05 11:58, Bruno S. Delbono wrote: Is there a better, more secure replacement as a CMS? If you are interested in a KISS approach take a look at TinyMCE, an easy to configure JavaScript WYSIWYG(!!!) editor: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/example_full.php?example=true (Instantly drop a

PPPoe + pf + DMZ server

2006-11-17 Thread George Sitov
Hello! I use adsl, and I have direct access to internet, and I go though pf (rdr) to dmz windows server (protocol rdp) Our internet provider change protocol to PPPoE, I make change in pf.cont, But now rdr did -not work :-( That's say tcpdump tcpdump -i tun0 port rdp tcpdump: ve

carp for one server?

2007-01-09 Thread John Brahy
I know carp is the way to go to provide address redundancy but I was wondering if it's the best way to do it on one server? I've got two interfaces and I'd like to only use one public ip address. Is carp the way to go or is there a better way? thanks!

Re: DHCP server issues.

2007-02-25 Thread Darren Spruell
On 2/25/07, Bray Mailloux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been toying with the DHCP server options but cannot seem to bring up the process; everytime I run ps there is no dhcpd process to be found Take a look in /etc/rc and see how the system initializes dhcpd. Are you missing the

Re: DHCP server issues.

2007-02-25 Thread djgoku
On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Bray Mailloux wrote: I've been toying with the DHCP server options but cannot seem to bring up the process; everytime I run ps there is no dhcpd process to be found and no computers on my network are pulling down addresses from the server. My DHCPD.conf

Re: DHCP server issues.

2007-02-25 Thread Jon Morby
running dhcpd under a debugger, or when running it out of inittab on System V systems. On 26 Feb 2007, at 00:45, Bray Mailloux wrote: I've been toying with the DHCP server options but cannot seem to bring up the process; everytime I run ps there is no dhcpd pr

Re: DHCP server issues.

2007-02-25 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2007 Feb 25 (Sun) at 16:45:46 -0800 (-0800), Bray Mailloux wrote: :And my interfaces are configured as such. : :cat /etc/hostname.rl0 < External interface :inet 192.168.1.2255.255.255.0 NONE : :cat /etc/hostname.rl1 < Internal Interface :192.168.1.3 255.255.255.0 You

cluster -> single virtual server

2006-02-13 Thread Matt Hess
I know there is software out there to split up servers into multiple virtual private servers (ie: partitioning) But what about the reverse? Combine multiple physical servers to run a task with the physical systems acting on a virtual layer as a single system.. the closest I can come is the beowu

Re: New dell server

2006-02-14 Thread Brandon Mercer
Gaby vanhegan wrote: Hi, I'm considering getting a Dell PowerEdge SC1420 SATA. We need a small, cheap server for hosting some websites and email. A dual PIII-733 generic server isn't cutting the mustard any more so it looks like it's time to spend money. Has anybody man

Re: New dell server

2006-02-14 Thread Gaby vanhegan
xpecting at least > 150 mbps transfer rates and Im only geting 80. Technical support > was knowlegable and I didn't have to wait more than 5 minutes to > talk to someone. The informed me that this card performs best in a > 64 bit/100 mhz slot such as a server board. IMHO

Re: New dell server

2006-02-14 Thread Wade, Daniel
level cycle counter enabled apm0: disconnected dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 root on wd0a rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302 > -Original Message- > From: Gaby vanhegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:09 PM > To: OpenBSD general usage lis

Re: New dell server

2006-02-15 Thread Brandon Mercer
gig raptors in RAID 0. I was expecting at least 150 mbps transfer rates and Im only geting 80. Technical support was knowlegable and I didn't have to wait more than 5 minutes to talk to someone. The informed me that this card performs best in a 64 bit/100 mhz slot such as a server boar

dns caching server error

2006-02-23 Thread Roberto Pereyra
Hi A simple question. How to enable dns server to only make dns cache service to my LAN ? I running OpenBSD 3.7 and with: named_flags="" in rc.conf.local but I have this output : server1# dig @127.0.0.1 yahoo.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> @127.0.0.1 yaho

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread David Terrell
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:19:18PM -0500, Chris wrote: > Hello. Basic sendmail question. > > I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming mail when my > primary mail server goes down. I understand how to do this from a DNS > standpoint, but what I don't know is

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Chris
Really? So when the box goes down, just let the mail bounce? How would it break spamassassin (which is what I use)? David Terrell wrote: >On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:19:18PM -0500, Chris wrote: > > >>Hello. Basic sendmail question. >> >>I want to set up a backup

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Bryan Irvine
bounces, and my spam tools aren't broken. I have noticed that spammers won't even bother trying to connect to the primary, they just try the backup thinking that my primary server will accept mail as a relay from the backup, which of course it will, but only if that message passes spamd,

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006, Chris wrote: > I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming mail when my > primary mail server goes down. I understand how to do this from a DNS > standpoint, but what I don't know is what should be in my > sendmail.mc/sendmail.cf file for

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:49:44 -0800, Claus Assmann wrote: >On Wed, Mar 01, 2006, Chris wrote: > >> I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming mail when my >> primary mail server goes down. I understand how to do this from a DNS >> standpoint, but what I don

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread dick
>> Backup MX is a relic and a legacy. It breaks almost all spam filters. >> Modern mail infrastructure doesn't need it, except in rare cases. me thinks this is spreading FUD. define "modern mail infrastructure". perhaps the origin of the FUD is the M$ visual studio .net overexposure?

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Lars Hansson
On Thursday 02 March 2006 10:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > me thinks this is spreading FUD. define "modern mail infrastructure". > perhaps the origin of the FUD is the M$ visual studio .net overexposure? No, it's not FUD. The large majorityt domains dont need backup MX's. Mail wont bounce just b

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Graham Toal
Although I know where David is coming from with this slightly contentious comment, he's wrong. The argument is that most senders will do their own back-off, and the hassle of setting up a *good* backup MX server is so high that the benefit scarcely justifies it. However where he is wrong i

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread David Terrell
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:16:59PM -0600, Graham Toal wrote: > Personally I do believe in Backup MX, as long as it does proper > relay checking. It's nice if it also does spam checking, but > not critical because your primary MX will still do that. However > if you do spam checking *and rejection

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:16:59 -0600, Graham Toal wrote: >Although I know where David is coming from with this slightly >contentious comment, he's wrong. The argument is that most >senders will do their own back-off, and the hassle of setting >up a *good* backup MX server is

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Thursday, March 2, "Rod.. Whitworth" wrote: > On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:16:59 -0600, Graham Toal wrote: > > > >If your DNS is on the same net as the mailer, its down too. Senders > >soon get no result at all when they look you up, with the result that > >mail *bounces* (unknown address) rather tha

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Lars Hansson
On Thursday 02 March 2006 15:14, Tobias Weingartner wrote: > If the client can't find any DNS information on the destination, it > tends to bounce. At least in all non-broken MTAs. Try it. Send > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see what happens. > This was 1/2 his argument. No DNS info means no

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
>>>>> "Rod" == Rod Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rod> As a result spammers target secondaries strongly in preference to Rod> primaries. As a project I listed a secondary for a server I support Rod> using an alias on the same machine. All of the

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Graham Toal
> NO - it does not! Well, not unless the sending MTA is broken. To quote > from Postfix documentation referring to not getting an MX record from > DNS: > " By default, the Postfix SMTP client defers delivery and tries again > after some delay. This behavior is required by the SMTP standard." Yes i

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Graham Toal
> $ host -t mx stonehenge.com > stonehenge.com mail is handled by 666 spamtrap.stonehenge.com. > stonehenge.com mail is handled by 5 blue.stonehenge.com. > > Any mail delivered to spamtrap gets the following response: > > 450 Violation of RFC2821 Section 5 Paragraph 8 correlates highly with > sp

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/02 08:16, Graham Toal wrote: > > Any mail delivered to spamtrap gets the following response: > > > > 450 Violation of RFC2821 Section 5 Paragraph 8 correlates highly with > > spamming and is therefore rejected. > > Ouch! You're a brave one. That's fine until your first big network

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Graham" == Graham Toal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Graham> Ouch! You're a brave one. That's fine until your first big network outage :-) Graham> Oh wait - I bet they're both on the same net segment, right? You wouldn't Graham> dare do that with a machine elsewhere on the net! No, they

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 02/03/06, Graham Toal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally I do believe in Backup MX, as long as it does proper > relay checking. It's nice if it also does spam checking, but > not critical because your primary MX will still do that. However Do you know just how disturbing it is to receive

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 02/03/06, Graham Toal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > $ host -t mx stonehenge.com > > stonehenge.com mail is handled by 666 spamtrap.stonehenge.com. > > stonehenge.com mail is handled by 5 blue.stonehenge.com. > > > > Any mail delivered to spamtrap gets the following response: > > > > 450 Viola

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Adam
On 02 Mar 2006 06:54:45 -0800 merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > I hate greylisting. It hurts legit mail to solve the spam problem. > And I don't need it, based on the amount of spam I can kill with this > (and a few other tricks described in the referenced paper). If you used spa

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread David Terrell
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 03:38:09PM +, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Graham, > > You seem to have some contradicting views on the matter. What is the > difference between greylisting and the aforementioned spamtrapping > approach? Isn't it essentially a variation of the very same thing, > nam

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 02/03/06, David Terrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 03:38:09PM +, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > Graham, > > > > You seem to have some contradicting views on the matter. What is the > > difference between greylisting and the aforementioned spamtrapping > > approac

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Peter Fraser
Wouldn't a even simpler solution be to define a high MX record to a dummy address that would never answer. The spammers were going to retry, they would anyway and a real server would retry for sure.

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Constantine" == Constantine A Murenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Constantine> Correction: this very neat trick is by Randal L. Schwartz; Graham Constantine> was the one opposing it in this thread. :-) Constantine> Here are some results of 'You Had Me at HELO': Constantine> http://fas.sfu

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> Wouldn't a even simpler solution be to define a Peter> high MX record to a dummy address that would never Peter> answer. The spammers were going to retry, they would Peter> an

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-02 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
DNS located elsewhere is never harmful as long >> as you can get it updated as fast as your master in house. > >scp, rsync, etc, etc. It will tend to get updated faster than the primary, >considering you've got to edit the primiry's version by hand (usually). It may be but it won't get done before the end of the hand edit on the master. ~|^ == > >--Toby. > > >From the land "down under": Australia. Do we look from up over? Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list. Replies to the sender address will fail except from the list-server.

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-03 Thread Lars Hansson
On Thursday 02 March 2006 09:03, you wrote: > Really? So when the box goes down, just let the mail bounce? Mail will not start to bounce the moment your box goes down. SMTP was designed to be reliable. > How would it break spamassassin (which is what I use)? It doesn't. --- Lars Hansson

Low-cost 1U server

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Ng
Hi, from previous threads in this list, I gathered that the Dell PowerEdge SC1425 works well with OpenBSD 3.8. However, I have reservations from past experience with Dell's customer support, hope anyone can recommend an equivalent low-cost system with the following minimum requirements - 1) Form

Re: NFS server responsiveness

2006-04-15 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 08:31:18AM -0600, David Wilk wrote: > I've got a test server with OpenBSD-3.8 on it (GENERIC except with > RAIDFRAME support) and considering the hardware, it does pretty well > with NFS performance. However, I've noticed that when under heavy NFS > l

Re: NFS server responsiveness

2006-04-15 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 08:31:18AM -0600, David Wilk wrote: > I've got a test server with OpenBSD-3.8 on it (GENERIC except with > RAIDFRAME support) and considering the hardware, it does pretty well > with NFS performance. However, I've noticed that when under heavy NFS > l

Re: Server Compatibility List

2006-04-18 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 11:47:17AM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote: > I don't know if this has been posted before, but I found a nice openbsd server > compatibility list: > > "To ensure availability of appropriate server hardware platforms for Profense, > Armorlogic is testi

Re: Server Compatibility List

2006-04-18 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 11:47:17AM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote: > I don't know if this has been posted before, but I found a nice openbsd server > compatibility list: > > "To ensure availability of appropriate server hardware platforms for Profense, > Armorlogic is testi

Re: Server Compatibility List

2006-04-18 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
On 4/19/06, Jonathan Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is totally out of date for 3.9, everything except the x4200 should > be fine. Yes. Especially the HP hardware, since most of the problems were caused by missing PCI bridges that should be fixed now. As soon as I get my 3.9 CDs from Wim,

Re: New dell server

2006-04-22 Thread Brandon Mercer
gig raptors in RAID 0. I was expecting at least 150 mbps transfer rates and Im only geting 80. Technical support was knowlegable and I didn't have to wait more than 5 minutes to talk to someone. The informed me that this card performs best in a 64 bit/100 mhz slot such as a server boar

openbsd on root-server?

2006-04-28 Thread Christian Pedaschus
Hi list, i'm trying since a few hours to get 3.8 on a (linux-based) root-server, without success. I googled some tutorials (for ex. http://wiki.bsd-crew.de/index.php?title=Strato-Rootserver_mit_NetBSD&redirect=no) but they don't seem to work (i tried it with my own bootdisk and

ntpd as server logging...

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Ross
Hi, I've enabled ntpd with the -d flag to run as a server on a system on the lan with this conf file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jross $ cat /etc/ntpd.conf # $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.7 2004/07/20 17:38:35 henning Exp $ # sample ntpd configuration file, see ntpd.conf(5) # Addresses to list

File Server Advice Required

2006-07-04 Thread Ginja_Ninja
Hello, I was wondering if i could pick the brains of more experienced inividuals to provide me with a more suited solution. I am a total beginner at this so please bear with me. I wish to setup a file server to sit on my networ at home and provide all the files between a couple of pc'

PPPoE Server mode kernel

2006-08-18 Thread Динар Талыпов
Hi, Is there anyone who works on PPPoE Server mode implementation? Best regards, Dinar

Re: [OT] 2U Server

2006-08-21 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Saturday 19 August 2006 03:13, you wrote: >1) Any chassis or supplier recommendations? Comments on > "Rackmountpro", since I have found this 2U chassis from rackmountpro > ( >http://www.rackmountpro.com/productpage.php?prodid=2421 ). I have purchased rackmount chassis from them before and been

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