Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-24 Thread Sunnz
I guess Linus lost his ability to masturbate for a long time huh? -- This e-mail may be confidential. You may not copy, forward, distribute, or, use any part of it. Note, this text has no effective legal binding on your part, there is no obligation to abide any or all parts of this. Treat it

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-24 Thread Guido Tschakert
Duncan Patton a Campbell schrieb: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:37:27 +0200 Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Shizzle Cash wrote: On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: agreed. I barely can wait to see Ty Semaka artwork for 4.4. Definitively it should include monkeys. And

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-23 Thread Jose H.
So sad the software icons like him need to use such an offensive way of expressing simple ideas, I hope his destructive way of arguing doesn't _encourage_the_wrong_behavior_ on more people. 2008/7/20 Sean Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We need a Button. Reminds me of the advert in Comic Books

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-20 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:29:35 +0530 Amarendra Godbole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Aaron Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Nuno Magalhces [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it's rtfm and chest-thumping. because here, many people

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-20 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:37:27 +0200 Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Shizzle Cash wrote: On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: agreed. I barely can wait to see Ty Semaka artwork for 4.4. Definitively it should include monkeys. And amoebas too. I agree, monkeys

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-20 Thread Zamri Besar
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Duncan Patton a Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanking Sea Monkeys, then: the oceanic analogue of fleas, at least in the area of genital proportion ;-) Dhu lol. Looks like someone is selling new stuffs over the net: http://www.cafepress.com/spankymm

This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-20 Thread Sean Kennedy
We need a Button. Reminds me of the advert in Comic Books of my youth, for Sea Monkeys, Maybe we need Puffy looking concerned, with Sea Monkeys facing away from the perspective doing something that most Prudes would find offensive.. Nothing Obvious mind-you, just a perspective of backs of Sea

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-18 Thread raven
Jim Willis ha scritto: I agree entirely! The OpenBSD developers should surely be raised upon shoulders for all of there work... However a mocking sticker would be rather awesome! -Jim I ask into myself what appen if the anyone of the FSF or GPLled people send at least one cent to

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-18 Thread Amarendra Godbole
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Aaron Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Nuno Magalhces [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it's rtfm and chest-thumping. because here, many people have spent many hours making sure tfm gives you all the information you need [...]

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-18 Thread Joel Jose
if ppl stop giving special consideration to security, the quality of security enforcement could come down. Ideally we like to clean all bugs. But as is pointed out, bugs are many. Prioritizing bugs and dealing with a strong deadline is vitally important. classification of bugs into domain is the

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Gregory Edigarov
Marco Peereboom wrote: debian users are masturbating amoebas just cannot imagine how could an amoeba jerk off you will certainly get a prize... :-) :-))) : :D On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:47:54PM +0100, Nuno Magalh??es wrote: Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Almir Karic
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 05:10:46PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: Yes it is. To illustrate the stupidity and pointlessness of this all. Linus is a troll, we know, who cares? insulting anyone is IMHO hardly ever necessary/good, trolling (of known folks, such as linus and rms) is (again IMHO)

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Fergus Wilde
On Wednesday 16 July 2008 18:33, you wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? --Siju OpenBSD - proudly powered by primates' privates -- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: 0161 834 7961 Fax: 0161 839

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Artur Grabowski
Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, when he tries to say that the OpenBSD crowd has a different attitude, I don't know who he's referring to, but certainly not me. That's the funniest part about this. If the attitude we have about the issue in that disucssion makes us a bunch of wanking

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Paul de Weerd escreveu: I'd suggest you rethink your reasons for changing OS. If you want to switch from Linux to OpenBSD (or vice versa, for all I care), please make sure there's sound technical reasons for it. The main guy said something stupid does not a bad product make. Cheers, Paul

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Sevan / Venture37
looks like the theme for the 4.4 release is sorted then. _ Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719649/direct/01/

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Sevan / Venture37 escreveu: looks like the theme for the 4.4 release is sorted then. _ Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719649/direct/01/ agreed. I barely can wait to see Ty

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Shizzle Cash
On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: agreed. I barely can wait to see Ty Semaka artwork for 4.4. Definitively it should include monkeys. And amoebas too. I agree, monkeys should definitely be somehow incorporated into the artwork for the next release.

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Marcus Andree
Don't forget some amoebas wearing suits and t-shirts with a penguin stamp. agreed. I barely can wait to see Ty Semaka artwork for 4.4. Definitively it should include monkeys. And amoebas too. I agree, monkeys should definitely be somehow incorporated into the artwork for the next release.

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Nick Guenther
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Kyle Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I don't think of OpenBSD as a 'secure' system, I think of it as a 'correct' system, and security is a side effect of that that's good for

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Maxim Belooussov
looks like the theme for the 4.4 release is sorted then. _ Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719649/direct/01/ Can we get a sticker, too?

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Marc Balmer
* Shizzle Cash wrote: On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: agreed. I barely can wait to see Ty Semaka artwork for 4.4. Definitively it should include monkeys. And amoebas too. I agree, monkeys should definitely be somehow incorporated into the artwork for the next

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Jim Willis
I agree entirely! The OpenBSD developers should surely be raised upon shoulders for all of there work... However a mocking sticker would be rather awesome! -Jim

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread lists
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:05:49AM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote: just cannot imagine how could an amoeba jerk off you will certainly get a prize... :-) :-))) : :D I try to imagine, but the amoeba splits. Sort of like linux. Paul.

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Sevan / Venture37
ty draws openbsd developers as fish. and I think that we, the openbsd developers, did enough to warrant a nice topic for the next release. no need to resort to that strange monkey business. or do you want to honour a stupid remark made by l. by making him the main theme of our next release?

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? I think the software if free ( freedom) each proyect has the freedom to do the best effort posibly. Think only in BSD world (Net,

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Shizzle Cash
On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Marc Balmer wrote: * Shizzle Cash wrote: On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: agreed. I barely can wait to see Ty Semaka artwork for 4.4. Definitively it should include monkeys. And amoebas too. I agree, monkeys should definitely be

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Klaus
Umm.. Well if the OS is properly documented, why would you need to ask the question in the first place? It's one thing to read things for yourself throroughly, and another to just take some answer given to you. I'm sure the people saying RTFM would tell you to do that unless it wasn't actuall in

This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Siju George
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? --Siju

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread STeve Andre'
On Wednesday 16 July 2008 13:33:31 Siju George wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? --Siju Let me be the first to say-- Who cares? I may completely disagree with him, but I'm not going to invest in a flame fest over his comments.

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread (private) HKS
++ -HKS Let me be the first to say-- Who cares? I may completely disagree with him, but I'm not going to invest in a flame fest over his comments. To each their own. --STeve Andre'

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Denis Doroshenko
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? haha, poor linus cries like a baby coz not everyone is gonna kiss his ass these days. of course security is not that important! there

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Andree
snip I may completely disagree with him, but I'm not going to invest in a flame fest over his comments. snip Being here when Stallman started the last flame nuclear holocaust war, I feel a weird sense of deja-vu right now.

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
*yawn* linus' opinion is as interesting as his relevance. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:03:31PM +0530, Siju George wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? --Siju

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread mcb, inc.
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Siju George wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? To me, security is important. But it's no less important than everything *else* that is also important! I.e. there are no shades of gray in import hence

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marti Martinez
From http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys Well, shit, he's got ME nailed... -- Systems Programmer, Principal Electrical Computer Engineering The University of Arizona [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of your asses and actually read his words with the use of some common sense you might get what he means. It's a balanced opinion. From what i've seen so far in this list, the BSD-crowd *is* a bunch of masturbating monkeys anyway, i get much more

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Denis Doroshenko escreveu: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? haha, poor linus cries like a baby coz not everyone is gonna kiss his ass these days. of

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marc Balmer
* Denis Doroshenko wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? haha, poor linus cries like a baby coz not everyone is gonna kiss his ass these days. of course

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Andree
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? To me, security is important. But it's no less important than everything *else* that is also important! I.e. there are no shades of gray in import hence importance is black-and-while. H... IMO,

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
debian users are masturbating amoebas On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:47:54PM +0100, Nuno Magalh??es wrote: Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of your asses and actually read his words with the use of some common sense you might get what he means. It's a balanced opinion. From

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Nuno Magalhces [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it's rtfm and chest-thumping. because here, many people have spent many hours making sure tfm gives you all the information you need

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? I like to think OpenBSD attracts the kind of people that come up with their own opinions from their own experiences and don't invest

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Steve Shockley
Nuno MagalhC#es wrote: From what i've seen so far in this list, the BSD-crowd *is* a bunch of masturbating monkeys anyway I'm not a monkey.

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
Oh he now develops code? I thought that ended somewhere in in '95. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:45:23PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Denis Doroshenko escreveu: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Marco Peereboom escreveu: Oh he now develops code? I thought that ended somewhere in in '95. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:45:23PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Denis Doroshenko escreveu: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Hrm . . . From: Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc misc@openbsd.org Subject: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Just to be clear: The process we follow to increase security is simply

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin Wilcox
2008/7/16 Nuno MagalhC#es [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of your asses and actually read his words with the use of some common sense you might get what he means. It's a balanced opinion. It's not that it isn't a balanced opinion or that he may be right

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Stuart VanZee
From: Marti Martinez From http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys Well, shit, he's got ME nailed... -- Systems Programmer, Principal Electrical Computer Engineering The University of Arizona [EMAIL PROTECTED] I

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Bob Beck
On 16-Jul-08, at 12:14 PM, Steve Shockley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a monkey. Hey but I am! Pass the banana flavoured lube! Oook oook oook! Now could we return to useful conversation instead of feeding the trolls? -Bob

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Almir Karic
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:03:00PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: debian users are masturbating amoebas is this really necessary? and if so why?

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:08:57PM -0700, Aaron Glenn wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 Again a mis representation in pulic? I like to think OpenBSD attracts the kind of people that come up

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Nick Guenther
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Nuno Magalhces [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of your asses and actually read his words with the use of some common sense you might get what he means. It's a balanced opinion. From what i've seen so far in this

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marco Peereboom
Yes it is. To illustrate the stupidity and pointlessness of this all. Linus is a troll, we know, who cares? On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:34:07PM +0200, Almir Karic wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:03:00PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: debian users are masturbating amoebas is this really

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:45:23PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: | I took the care of reading all the thread. The guy is just asking linus | why the policy about security bugs isn't being followed. Linus replies | him telling that he do not want script kiddies to exploit the bugs. He | even

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:47:54PM +0100, Nuno Magalhces wrote: Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of your asses and actually read his words with the use of some common sense you might get what he means. It's a balanced opinion. It's a totally misinformed opinion. Quoting In

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Rildo Cezar
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:09 PM Subject: Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:45:23PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: | I took the care of reading all the thread. The guy is just asking linus | why the policy about security bugs isn't being followed

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Sevan / Venture37
Don't knock masturbation; it's sex with someone I love! -Woody Allen _ 100s of Nikon cameras to be won with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719808/direct/01/

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Travers Buda
* Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-17 01:19:59]: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:47:54PM +0100, Nuno Magalhces wrote: Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of your asses and actually read his words with the use of some common sense you might get what he means. It's a balanced