Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-05 Thread Misc User
On 11/4/2018 3:06 PM, Mik J wrote: Thank you Peter for this opinion. Misc User, these gmail, live, yahoo spams you're talking about are really comming from IP addresses that belong to them ? Because on my side it seems it's not the case. In my greylist right now I have

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-05 Thread William Ahern
On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 02:49:44PM -0800, Misc User wrote: > On 11/4/2018 2:25 PM, Mik J wrote: > > Hello Peter, > > > > Thank you for this article. > > Do you know why, and particularly Microsoft, use very random IPs to send > > mails. > > In that way, they make greylisting not as reliable as

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-04 Thread Mik J
Thank you Peter for this opinion. Misc User, these gmail, live, yahoo spams you're talking about are really comming from IP addresses that belong to them ? Because on my side it seems it's not the case. In my greylist right now I have rosaronald70s...@gmail.com but if I check the IP that

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-04 Thread Misc User
On 11/4/2018 2:25 PM, Mik J wrote: Hello Peter, Thank you for this article. Do you know why, and particularly Microsoft, use very random IPs to send mails. In that way, they make greylisting not as reliable as it should be. We could all use greylisting if google or microsoft would use the

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 11/4/18 11:25 PM, Mik J wrote: > Do you know why, and particularly Microsoft, use very random IPs to send > mails. > In that way, they make greylisting not as reliable as it should be. We could > all use greylisting if google or microsoft would use the same 4 or 5 IPs to > retry sending the

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-04 Thread Mik J
Hello Peter, Thank you for this article. Do you know why, and particularly Microsoft, use very random IPs to send mails. In that way, they make greylisting not as reliable as it should be. We could all use greylisting if google or microsoft would use the same 4 or 5 IPs to retry sending the

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
A final followup on this issue - I wrote a (relatively) short piece on greylisting vs domains with multiple outbound SMTP servers, which includes the little script I use to create a nospamd from a list of domains, of course by feeding to 'smtpctl spf walk'. You can find the article at

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-03 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 10/30/18 8:46 PM, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 30/10/2018 o 19:31, Peter N. M. Hansteen pisze: >> yes, a well-known problem, and it's what nospamd (hinted at in the spamd >> man pages) is for. >> >> To some extent it helps to whitelist IP addresses and networks that >> domains list in their

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-11-01 Thread Chris Narkiewicz
W dniu 30/10/2018 o 23:39, Stuart Henderson pisze: I haven't run spamd myself for years, I got fed up with delayed and lost mails. Thanks. That was probably the tipping comment for me - I decided to search for alternative spam protection. It's the lost e-mails bing the the thing I cannot

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-31 Thread Mario Theodoridis
On 31.10.2018 17:09, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On 10/30/18 8:05 PM, Mario Theodoridis wrote: I ran into this problem as well. I ended up writing a script that parses the SPF entries out of the greylist and if reasonable, whitelists those ranges and removes the grey list entries. It runs every 15 

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On 10/30/18 8:05 PM, Mario Theodoridis wrote: > I ran into this problem as well. > I ended up writing a script that parses the SPF entries out of the greylist > and > if reasonable, whitelists those ranges and removes the grey > list entries. It runs every 15 minutes. smtpctl now has an spf walk

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-31 Thread Mario Theodoridis
On 30.10.2018 20:46, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: W dniu 30/10/2018 o 19:31, Peter N. M. Hansteen pisze: yes, a well-known problem, and it's what nospamd (hinted at in the spamd man pages) is for. To some extent it helps to whitelist IP addresses and networks that domains list in their SPF info.

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-31 Thread Thuban
* Stuart Henderson le [30-10-2018 23:39:23 +]: > On 2018-10-30, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm configuring spamd and I noticed that when I send an e-mail from > > GMail, each time the e-mail is submitted by a different IP address. > > > > Here is spamdb output after sending a

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-31 Thread Craig Skinner
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 18:54:43 + Chris Narkiewicz wrote: > Are there any solutions get around this problem? Ideally I'd like > to just whitelist reputable mail providers ... Yes Chris, see: http://web.Britvault.Co.UK/products/ungrey-robins/ Cheers, -- Craig Skinner | http://linkd.in/yGqkv7

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018-10-30, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: > Hi, > > I'm configuring spamd and I noticed that when I send an e-mail from > GMail, each time the e-mail is submitted by a different IP address. > > Here is spamdb output after sending a test email to myself: > >

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-30 Thread Scott Seekamp
On 30.10.2018 13:59, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On 10/30/18 8:46 PM, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: W dniu 30/10/2018 o 19:31, Peter > N. M. Hansteen pisze: yes, a well-known problem, and it's what nospamd > (hinted at in the spamd > man pages) is for. > > To some extent it helps to whitelist IP

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-30 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 08:59:07PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On 10/30/18 8:46 PM, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: > > W dniu 30/10/2018 o??19:31, Peter N. M. Hansteen pisze: > >> yes, a well-known problem, and it's what nospamd (hinted at in the spamd > >> man pages) is for. > >> > >> To some

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-30 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 10/30/18 8:46 PM, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 30/10/2018 o 19:31, Peter N. M. Hansteen pisze: >> yes, a well-known problem, and it's what nospamd (hinted at in the spamd >> man pages) is for. >> >> To some extent it helps to whitelist IP addresses and networks that >> domains list in their

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-30 Thread Chris Narkiewicz
W dniu 30/10/2018 o 19:31, Peter N. M. Hansteen pisze: yes, a well-known problem, and it's what nospamd (hinted at in the spamd man pages) is for. To some extent it helps to whitelist IP addresses and networks that domains list in their SPF info. Yeah, I hoped there are some reputable sources

Re: spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-30 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 10/30/18 7:54 PM, Chris Narkiewicz wrote: > Hi, > > I'm configuring spamd and I noticed that when I send an e-mail from > GMail, each time the e-mail is submitted by a different IP address. yes, a well-known problem, and it's what nospamd (hinted at in the spamd man pages) is for. To some

spamd and google smtp ips

2018-10-30 Thread Chris Narkiewicz
Hi, I'm configuring spamd and I noticed that when I send an e-mail from GMail, each time the e-mail is submitted by a different IP address. Here is spamdb output after sending a test email to myself: GREY|209.85.219.182|mail-yb1-f182.google.com|...