This has been discussed before. I think many people here agree this
would be very useful. Some has even volunteered to do it, but I
haven't found anything in Google about it yet.
So, the question is ?has anybody made it?, otherwise, ?is anybody
willing to do it?
--
Gerardo Santana
On 8/24/05, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Siju George wrote:
just one quick question.
where do I actually learn more about page, buffer, malloc etc??
Is this book enough?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0201549794/openbsdA/104-8401808-3342305
or
2005/8/24, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This has been discussed before. I think many people here agree this
would be very useful. Some has even volunteered to do it, but I
haven't found anything in Google about it yet.
So, the question is ?has anybody made it?, otherwise,
Hi Joel
j knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have tried to change Network and Netmask in the [default-route]
section from 0.0.0.0 to the network and netmask of one of the vlan
subnetworks, but it does not help. I can still connect to the other
subnet if I define them in the client. Anyone
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them
somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS.
Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf and adding
-mtu 1454 to the route. Also take a look at pppoe(4)
First, thank you very much for your interesting responses.
Yesterday in the evening I installed OpenBSD again on the same disk,
just to be sure if I could reproduce the errors. Yes!, I did not have to
wait for a long time. The errors appeared after some hours of use. I
installed the ports tree
Edd Barrett wrote:
Oh, thanks, but I tried to do it a month ago from my Linux box and this
is an old disk that does not have the SMART thing. :-(
At the price of storage media these days, you may aswell just buy another
disk.
Regards
Edd
Yes, disks are indeed very cheap. I had this
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 01:03:04AM -0500, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote:
2005/8/24, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This has been discussed before. I think many people here agree this
would be very useful. Some has even volunteered to do it, but I
haven't found
--On 24 August 2005 10:37 +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
pciide0:0:1: bus-master DMA error: missing interrupt, status=0x61
wd1a: device timeout reading fsbn 1489200 of 1489200-1489203 (wd1 bn
1489263; cn 1477 tn 7 sn 6), retrying
wd1: soft error (corrected)
wd1(pciide0:0:1): timeout
type:
Thanks for not taking the easy route.
Changes are always painful, but if they deliver then it's worth it.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
First, thank you very much for your interesting responses.
Yesterday in the evening I installed OpenBSD again on the same disk,
just to be sure if I could reproduce the errors. Yes!, I did not have to
wait for a long time. The
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection
mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into
them.
Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/needs
stable systems need to run 3.7 ?
No,it is clear that he is talking about the problems *other* people's
(buggy) software will have.
On 8/24/05, Genadijus Paleckis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection
mechanism in any case, and try to solve the
Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
First, thank you very much for your interesting responses.
Yesterday in the evening I installed OpenBSD again on the same disk,
just to be sure if I could reproduce the errors. Yes!, I did not have to
wait
Guido Tschakert wrote:
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them
somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS.
Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf and adding
-mtu 1454 to the route. Also
Edd Barrett wrote:
Hi there,
Is there any reason why we can not include a raid enabled kernel in
the distribution? (not as default, but in the same way bsd.mp is).
I believe this would save me (and others?) time when upgrading OpenBSD
machines.
The kernel would need static device node
For one, what if you don't want RAID_AUTOCONFIG?
It would save YOU time if we set the options you needed. If not, it
would cause more complaints about how could you chose such an option?
True
Further, it would probably need to be TWO new kernels -- bsd.raid and
bsd.raid.rd, as you would
Antonios Anastasiadis wrote:
No,it is clear that he is talking about the problems *other* people's
(buggy) software will have.
On 8/24/05, Genadijus Paleckis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection
mechanism in
Genadijus Paleckis wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this
protection mechanism in any case, and try to solve the
problems as we run into them.
Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who
wants/needs stable systems need to run
Genadijus Paleckis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection
mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into
them.
Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/needs
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Of course not. HOW CAN IT? Get real! The hardware is STILL only
providing permissions at the page level!
If you have aggressive amounts of ram and/or patience you could have
something along the malloc.conf P-option for ALL sizes.
Of course it would suck for any app
Hello,
Can you recommand a performant scsi raid controller (with external
connector as it will be connected to an external HD TOWER !!) for use in
an OpenBSD3.7 file server?
Many thanks for the any comments/recommendations
didier
Hello!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 02:28:25PM +0300, Genadijus Paleckis wrote:
[...]
Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/needs
stable systems need to run 3.7 ?
well, from base system side I gues it will be minimal problems, but what
about ports ? because almost everyone
On 2005/08/24 14:28:25, Genadijus Paleckis wrote:
well, from base system side I gues it will be minimal problems, but what
about ports ? because almost everyone using it.
If software segfaults because of this, it's because it's already
doing something wrong, and it could already be giving
One point in favour of a GENERIC RAID Kernel(s), consider when a user
posts the following request for help:
'I've compiled my own kernel and Xyz is broken'
Now after being on the mailing list for a quite a while I know the stock
answer always seems to be 'drop back to GENERIC and stop playing
Artur Grabowski wrote:
Genadijus Paleckis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this
protection mechanism in any case, and try to solve the
problems as we run into them.
Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe
On 7/27/05, Matthew Bettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Can anyone recommend a decent rack server from HP, Dell, IBM or CDW
that will run OpenBSD for webserver use? I would prefer a machine
that has SCSI drives with Mirror Raid capabilities. I know I can go
piecemeal one from FRY's
Nick Holland wrote:
Guido Tschakert wrote:
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them
somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS.
Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf and adding
-mtu 1454
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:53:45PM +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
Yes!, I am using a 40 GB (aprox 4 years old) as master, and 1GB (around
10) as slave. Cable is 40-conductor, I think. Both at the same cable.
hmmm... can you try to put slow devices and fast devices on separate cables.
by slow
Genadijus Paleckis wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this protection
mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into
them.
Is that means that 3.8 might be unstable ? Maybe all who wants/needs
stable systems need to run
Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, as I wrote above, I know about the fdformat program,
and low level formatting is actually not what my question
was aimed at -- it was aimed at the disklabel / filesystem
level of formatting. But this may have got lost in my overly
long email. :-)
Hello!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:02:54AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote:
I *am* a bit sad about the fact that there're no running Lisp
implementations for OpenBSD
Does (X)emacs work?
Yes, but I meant (and neglected to say explicitly)
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Look at this http://www.mand4la.info/index.php/NagiosObsd
I've wrote this doc in italian, bat the code is the same :P
BTW..try to lunch apache with -u httpd -u
Bye
Matteo
Joco Salvatti wrote:
Hi all,
I installed and configured Nagios on my
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote:
A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very
different memory management, but can't avoid malloc altogether.
That is ports/lang/clisp, that seems to be also gprolog
Can you describe how these programs manage
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 08:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote:
Hello!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:02:54AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote:
I *am* a bit sad about the fact that there're no running Lisp
implementations for OpenBSD
Does
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11:58 pm, eric wrote:
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:53:25 -0600, Theo de Raadt proclaimed...
It is plain simple bad advice. And totally ridiculous.
And plus, with ipv6, it's imperative that the filters be pushed down to the
end-host so we can quit relying on stupid
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Damien Miller wrote:
Remember that most of the developers run -current throughout the
development cycle (often in production).
-d
and Theo get's really pissed off when someone breaks the tree so it won't
compile and/or the change creates disfunction in other parts of
Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
which is the right or preferred way to do so (since there are, as
I pointed out several possible ways).
I already answered that before:
Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Floppies usually don't
Guido Tschakert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW. this morning I tried the suggestions from Jonathan and it didn't
work :-(
This is normal. I thought you use the OpenBSD Box for PPPoE and NAT
directly, not through another router, which is a hardware box.
I noticed in the past that hardware
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Bryan Irvine
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:11 AM
To: Misc OpenBSD
Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion
I personally like to 'pass keep state' with a 'scrub all' rule. This
at least gives
I personally like to 'pass keep state' with a 'scrub all' rule. This
at least gives me some interesting statistics to poke at when I'm
bored. Plus, I can firewall who gets to ssh into my machine.
Another good use is {max-src-states ##} for webservers and the like.
I have a webserver that
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Diana Eichert
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Miscellaneous OBSD
Subject: Re: 3.8 beta requests
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Damien Miller wrote:
Remember that most of the developers run
Nick Holland wrote:
Guido Tschakert wrote:
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them
somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS.
Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf and adding
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:15:48AM -0400, Timothy Donahue wrote:
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11:58 pm, eric wrote:
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:53:25 -0600, Theo de Raadt proclaimed...
It is plain simple bad advice. And totally ridiculous.
And plus, with ipv6, it's imperative that the
is there a possibility to tell pf.conf to accept malformed packets.
turn off 'reassemble tcp' in your scrub rule if you don't want to
validate the packets.
pfctl -x loud tells me:
Aug 24 09:50:43 gw-bonn /bsd: pf_normalize_tcp_stateful: Did not receive
expected RFC1323 timestamp
hmm, on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 09:23:27AM -0700, Raymond Lillard said that
Maybe a slogan along the lines of, Is your software good enough
for OpenBSD!! Perhaps it could be worked into the release's
theme.
that is truly a brilliant idea ;-)
any artists here? make a designed for puffy logo.
Hi everyone,
First of all, I'm sorry for such stupid question. I know, that I need
few details, but I can't figure out what are they. I'm plaing with
Intel(r) PRO/Wireless2200BG wifi card and it's configuration. I have
found different descriptions for the /etc/dhclient.conf file. I have
read iwi
On 8/24/05, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I personally like to 'pass keep state' with a 'scrub all' rule. This
at least gives me some interesting statistics to poke at when I'm
bored. Plus, I can firewall who gets to ssh into my machine.
Another good use is {max-src-states ##}
Hello!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:57:55AM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote:
[...]
Is there any reason to use FFS on a floppy? Won't FAT (-12, or whatever)
work fine? Could you just mformat it and be along?
Of course there is. Just take a look at the boot floppies, for example.
Or think of the
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 09:15:48 -0400, Timothy Donahue proclaimed...
A Good Thing(TM) when done correctly, it is NAT that is not necessarily a
good thing. Filtering incoming (and possibly outgoing traffic) helps do
several things, first it decreases the burden on your hosts. It also allows
Spruell, Darren-Perot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any reason to use FFS on a floppy? Won't FAT (-12, or whatever)
work fine? Could you just mformat it and be along?
Yes, in fact there are:
1. As a matter of principle.
2. I need the FFS file permissions and ownerships on the floppy.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
slack _usr
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:41 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: stupid wifi question
Hi everyone,
First of all, I'm sorry for such stupid question. I know, that I need
few
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 05:41:15PM +0300, slack _usr wrote:
First of all, I'm sorry for such stupid question. I know, that I need
few details, but I can't figure out what are they. I'm plaing with
Intel(r) PRO/Wireless2200BG wifi card and it's configuration. I have
found different descriptions
What crashed? Apache or OpenBSD?
Apache of course! ;)
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:09:36AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote:
A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very
different memory management, but can't avoid malloc altogether.
That is ports/lang/clisp, that
On 8/25/05, -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hmm, on Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 09:23:27AM -0700, Raymond Lillard said that
Maybe a slogan along the lines of, Is your software good enough
for OpenBSD!! Perhaps it could be worked into the release's
theme.
that is truly a brilliant idea ;-)
any
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Stuart Henderson wrote:
--On 24 August 2005 10:37 +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
pciide0:0:1: bus-master DMA error: missing interrupt, status=0x61
wd1a: device timeout reading fsbn 1489200 of 1489200-1489203 (wd1 bn
1489263; cn 1477 tn 7 sn 6), retrying
wd1: soft error
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 10:56, Marc Espie wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:09:36AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 07:04, Hannah Schroeter wrote:
A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very
different memory management, but can't
Hello!
I'm having troubles with IPsec, but I'm not really sure whether it's an
IPsec issue, a routing problem or just that I'm missing something big, very
big... So any help is more than welcome!
Here's the setup: PC_A is acting as a NAT gateway with three network cards.
sis0 goes to an
A few things that get bitten are some packages doing their own and very
different memory management, but can't avoid malloc altogether.
That is ports/lang/clisp, that seems to be also gprolog
Can you describe how these programs manage to seg fault doing their
memory management? How do
Running today's snapshot on an old laptop (Dell Latitude PPL), and I put
the cover down to see if it would go to sleep and wake up properly.
After it went to sleep, I opened the laptop back up, and it started to
come back alive, but the screen stayed blank.
I couldn't switch virtual consoles.
If you guys care about this diff making 3.8 I suggest that someone sends me
some feedback.
/marco
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:19:11PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
Note that pcidevs_data.h and pcidevs.h are part of the diff. I did this for
easy patching and testing.
Give it a go and let me
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Nick Holland wrote:
Guido Tschakert wrote:
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
I don't see where you set the MTU/MSS? Are you sure you have set them
somewhere else? eBay is known to have problems with bad/wrong MTU/MSS.
Try adding scrub out on $ext_if max-mss 1414 to your pf.conf
The real problem is people who encounter a problem and fail to report
it. They just think this is crap and go on to something else.
I think the developers need to address the problems that get brought up, too.
I took the time to post a complete bug report (good and failing dmesg) about a
bug
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error
was simple and we all know what it means.
Trying 62.243.72.50...
Unimplemented command.
61% |**| 8922 KB04:55 ETA
/: write failed, file system is full
So I did the next
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 12:31, Will H. Backman wrote:
Running today's snapshot on an old laptop (Dell Latitude PPL), and I put
the cover down to see if it would go to sleep and wake up properly.
After it went to sleep, I opened the laptop back up, and it started to
come back alive, but the
-Original Message-
From: Dave Feustel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:29 PM
To: Will H. Backman
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: 3.8 snapshot laptop sleep issues
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 12:31, Will H. Backman wrote:
Running today's snapshot on
nice try, but i Don't use pppoe.
We have a DSL-Router from our providewr and as I mentioned before, we
had no Problems with the cisco-router doing the firewall job (Nat).
so, yes you DO use PPPoE.
Not necessarily, it could be in bridged mode.
--Bryan
On 2005-08-24 20:21, John Kintaro Tate wrote:
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error
was simple and we all know what it means.
Trying 62.243.72.50...
Unimplemented command.
61% |**| 8922 KB04:55 ETA
/: write
--- Quoting Daniel Eyholzer on 2005/08/24 at 08:33 +0200:
Yes, I have tried to filter on VPN client ip addresses on the enc0
interface. This works, but the problem is that not all users should be
allowed to do the same things. Since the VPN client ip address can be
chosen arbitrary on the VPN
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error
was simple and we all know what it means.
Trying 62.243.72.50...
Unimplemented command.
61% |**| 8922 KB04:55
ETA
/: write failed, file system is full
So I did
John Kintaro Tate wrote:
[snip]
So I did the next thing that comes naturally, I aborted and did a df -h...
# df -h
FilesystemSizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/wd0a 787M778M -30.6M 104%/
WTF is going on here? -30.6M sounds kinda
WTF is going on here? -30.6M sounds kinda weird.
Yup it's true. OpenBSD has put everything in the FAQ.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#NegSpace
:-)
--Bryan
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:13:08 +0200, Michael Adam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
which is the right or preferred way to do so (since there are, as
I pointed out several possible ways).
I already answered that
It's in the FAQ, specifically http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#NegSpace
John Kintaro Tate wrote:
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error
was simple and we all know what it means.
Trying 62.243.72.50...
Unimplemented command.
61%
Okay.
I am wondering where all the space nicked off to, since I only
installed it not long ago. I havn't run out of space on a system for a
long time, how do I figure out what the biggest files and stuff are
again?
Thanks in advance.
Kintaro.
On 8/25/05, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/24/05, John Kintaro Tate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error
was simple and we all know what it means.
Trying 62.243.72.50...
Unimplemented command.
61% |**| 8922 KB04:55
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 08:56:32PM +0200, Erik Wikstrvm wrote:
On 2005-08-24 20:21, John Kintaro Tate wrote:
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error
was simple and we all know what it means.
Trying 62.243.72.50...
Unimplemented command.
61%
hi there,
what is happening with ftp.openbsd.org?
it stalls the downloads every couple of minutes.
53% [== ] 19,162,576 6.98K/s ETA 38:08
and just hangs. then starts again, then hangs...
anybody else experiencing this?
-f
--
it takes about ten years to
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 03:25 pm, John Kintaro Tate wrote:
Okay.
I am wondering where all the space nicked off to, since I only
installed it not long ago. I havn't run out of space on a system for a
long time, how do I figure out what the biggest files and stuff are
again?
Thanks in
--- Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2005/08/24 at 18:35 +0200:
1) From Client1, I cannot ping its default gateway (.3.254) anymore. No ping
replies. ssh connection is frozen.
What machine and interface is .3.254 on? From the information below it
does not look like it's on PC_B. PC_B is .3.70.
At 02:21 PM 8/24/05, John Kintaro Tate wrote:
Hrm, I was installing the mono port and I ran into an error. The error
was simple and we all know what it means.
Trying 62.243.72.50...
Unimplemented command.
61% |**| 8922
KB04:55 ETA
/:
Hello!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:57:27PM -0500, Andrew Dyer wrote:
It was very frustrating to try and make things better and get ignored.
I can share some frustration. About a year ago, I made a port for erlang
(the current port just doesn't work at all, and it's ancient anyway,
so *anything*
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 04:35:13PM -0400, Will H. Backman wrote:
1. Packages get installed in a sub-optimal order. Quite often one
package on the list will have already been installed as a dependency. I
think my script downloads the redundant package before deciding that it
was already
2005/8/24, Ray Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 01:03:04AM -0500, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote:
2005/8/24, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This has been discussed before. I think many people here agree this
would be very useful. Some has even
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 01:54:46AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:20:33 +0100, Simon Farnsworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 16 August 2005 06:34, J.C. Roberts wrote:
You seem to be confused on your terms. The term PPPoA means
Point-to-Point Protocol over ATM
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:55:50PM -0600, jared r r spiegel wrote:
take a phone cord coming in and an ethernet cord going out.
it's possible
i suppose
there could be a
please forget this train of thought.
it may be possible to use OpenBSD as a
*replacement* for the DSL
Hi Art,
On 24/08/2005, at 9:38 PM, Artur Grabowski wrote:
Genadijus Paleckis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Oh well -- we've decided that we will try to ship with this
protection
mechanism in any case, and try to solve the problems as we run into
them.
Is that means
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