Re: serial port usage

2007-09-20 Thread Craig Skinner
Craig Skinner wrote: Darren Spruell wrote: For the scenario where you have two openbsd hosts, one connected to the second with a serial null modem cable, what is the right device to use when connecting using tip(1) from the first to a console on the second? [snip] Then, on either box, I

Re: : OpenBSD Install Goal

2007-09-20 Thread Tony Sarendal
On 9/19/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did anyone notice that this thread was accidentally brought back from almost a year ago? Raimo Niskanen wrote: A lot of people has praised the current OpenBSD installer. I too. I think it is at the right level and does the right things,

Forward traffic on incoming port help

2007-09-20 Thread Jake Conk
Hello, I am wondering what software could I use besides pf to forwarding traffic coming in on my server on a specific port to another ip on my lan? Basically I'm using an openbsd as my router and I want to forward public traffic coming in on a certain port to a computer behind it in my lan. What

Re: OpenCVS

2007-09-20 Thread Edd Barrett
On 19/09/2007, Adrian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. When will it be released? Will it be released at the same time as I was wondering this also. I am really looking forward to the release to replace GNU CVS. I think ( I might be wrong ), the code is there in current, but not linked

Re: Forward traffic on incoming port help

2007-09-20 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Jake Conk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am wondering what software could I use besides pf to forwarding traffic coming in on my server on a specific port to another ip on my lan? PF is in the base system and pretty easy to configure for setups like the one you describe - Basically I'm using

SMP processor kernel usage

2007-09-20 Thread Raimo Niskanen
Hi list! We are working on SMP adaption of the programming language Erlang. It is an emulated language with light weight threads. The threads are run on a set of schelulers. These schedulers run in separate Posix threads. On Linux we see that using as many schedulers (Posix threads) as there are

Re: Mailing list issues (was: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award)

2007-09-20 Thread David Given
Tony Abernethy wrote: Dunno about anyone else, but that seems like some kind of poetic justice. Preserving the pseudo-integrity of garbage seems like it should be very low on the list of priorities. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I do think that persuading the mailing list server

CPAN Checksum mismatch for distribution file. Please investigate.

2007-09-20 Thread Lars Noodén
Ok. I get this error: Checksum mismatch for distribution file. Please investigate. Where should I be looking? The full message: cpan install Bundle::CPAN CPAN: Storable loaded ok Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata Database was generated on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:36:49 GMT CPAN:

Checking mailbox ownership.

2007-09-20 Thread Karel Kulhavy
I am getting this message from Charlie Root over and over: Checking mailbox ownership. user clock mailbox is drwx--, group users Does it mean I should change the mailbox flags or group? If yes, what are the correct values then? CL

Re: Checking mailbox ownership.

2007-09-20 Thread Craig Skinner
Karel Kulhavy wrote: I am getting this message from Charlie Root over and over: Checking mailbox ownership. user clock mailbox is drwx--, group users Does it mean I should change the mailbox flags or group? If yes, what are the correct values then? Needs to be owned by the system user,

Re: OpenCVS

2007-09-20 Thread Pierre Riteau
Le 20 sept. 07 ` 07:10, Karl Sjvdahl - dunceor a icrit : On 9/19/07, Adrian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Who here knows about OpenCVS? 2. How is it used? 3. When will it be released? Will it be released at the same time as 4.2? Regards, A. 1. OpenCVS is developed by

Error while trying to build xenocara

2007-09-20 Thread Gregory Edigarov
Hello Everybody, While trying to build xenocara's most recent sources: === proto/bigreqsproto cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto exec make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper cleandir cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto exec make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper depend no dependencies here yet cd

New Digg Profiles and Updated Site Policies

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Re: Error while trying to build xenocara

2007-09-20 Thread Gregory Edigarov
Gregory Edigarov wrote: Hello Everybody, While trying to build xenocara's most recent sources: === proto/bigreqsproto cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto exec make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper cleandir cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto exec make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper depend no dependencies

Re: Error while trying to build xenocara

2007-09-20 Thread Marc Balmer
* Gregory Edigarov wrote: Gregory Edigarov wrote: Hello Everybody, While trying to build xenocara's most recent sources: === proto/bigreqsproto cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto exec make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper cleandir cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto exec make -f

Re: Error while trying to build xenocara

2007-09-20 Thread Gregory Edigarov
Marc Balmer wrote: * Gregory Edigarov wrote: Gregory Edigarov wrote: Hello Everybody, While trying to build xenocara's most recent sources: === proto/bigreqsproto cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto exec make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper cleandir cd /usr/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread The One
On 9/19/07, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Security is one of the concerns Leopard will solve. **BLAM** Security is never, ever a completely solved problem. Your world just isn' that simple. Do NOT pass GO. I sincerely hope never to hear

Re: OpenBSD Install Goal

2007-09-20 Thread Ulf G. Noren
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:28:48 -0700 Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are resources a-plenty; anyone who finds it confusing is either trying to install without having read docs, or is not familiar with computers in the first place (and thus needs to read the docs.) Computer users

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:08:55AM +1000, The One wrote: If anyone can solve security, whether it is with Leopard or in the future, Apple definitely can. In my opinion, Apple performs 100% in the software field, and 90% in the hardware field, which is due to, as I explained in my previous

Re: OpenBSD Install Goal

2007-09-20 Thread Will Jenkins
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:28:48 -0700 Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer users need to get smarter, instead of technology getting dumber for them. I could not disagree more with this statement. Will

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-20 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is a 1.8 hard disk that does NOT use the ZIF connector (these are somewhat common) but the same 44pin connector 2.5 disks use. 1.8 disks with that connector have only ever been made by

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Darren Spruell
On 9/20/07, The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't bother following up, I won't be listening. Or maybe I will, and I might even venture out from under my rock again before 4.4 ships. If anyone can solve security, whether it is with Leopard or in the future, Apple definitely can. In my

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Nick Guenther
On 9/20/07, The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/19/07, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Security is one of the concerns Leopard will solve. **BLAM** Security is never, ever a completely solved problem. Your world just isn' that

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread The One
Sorry but I am just disagreed with Theo saying that OS X is buggy and insecure. On 9/21/07, Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:08:55AM +1000, The One wrote: If anyone can solve security, whether it is with Leopard or in the future, Apple definitely can. In my

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my opinion, In my opinion, you're simply a source of off-topic noise for this mailing list. There has to be dozens of mailing lists, web forums and the like where your fruit worship is welcome. Please go there. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 01:00:11AM +1000, The One wrote: Sorry but I am just disagreed with Theo saying that OS X is buggy and insecure. Whatever. BORED already. Go troll elsewhere.

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-20 Thread rcopsey
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:57 am Subject: Re: help needed with laptop hdd To: misc@openbsd.org Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is a

2 internet connections on 1 router

2007-09-20 Thread Marian Hettwer
Hi All, I'm using a Soekris box with OpenBSD 4.0 (sorry *g*) on my home soekris box. Actual setup is one interface with a cable modem connected for internet use. The cable modem provider talks dhcp, so no pppoe magic involved. Now I do have an old second DSL provider lying around, which I

Re: operator permissions: a wish-list

2007-09-20 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 at 20:41 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Lets take a typical family setup. Mom is the SA who knows the root password. Dad can be operator and do stuff with sudo. However, the kids may just want to listen to CDs, watch DVDs, access their homework on a USB stick, rip a

Re: 2 internet connections on 1 router

2007-09-20 Thread Dag Richards
Marian Hettwer wrote: Hi All, I'm using a Soekris box with OpenBSD 4.0 (sorry *g*) on my home soekris box. Actual setup is one interface with a cable modem connected for internet use. The cable modem provider talks dhcp, so no pppoe magic involved. Now I do have an old second DSL provider

FW: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread stuart van Zee
The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone can solve security, whether it is with Leopard or in the future, Apple definitely can. In my opinion, Apple performs 100% in the software field, and 90% in the hardware field, which is due to, as I explained in my previous messages, depending off

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ural recognized as cd: BUFFALO WLI-U2-KG54-AI

2007-09-20 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
got a ural a supposedly supported usb wifi adapter, BUFFALO WLI-U2-KG54-AI, and it's showing up as a detachable cd drive on a 4.1-release machine: umass0 at uhub3 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 umass0: BUFFALO WLI-U2-KG54-AI, rev 2.00/1.15, addr 2 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only scsibus0 at

Re: ural recognized as cd: BUFFALO WLI-U2-KG54-AI

2007-09-20 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 01:01:52PM -0500, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: | got a ural a supposedly supported usb wifi adapter, BUFFALO | WLI-U2-KG54-AI, and it's showing up as a detachable cd drive on a | 4.1-release machine: | | umass0 at uhub3 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 | umass0: BUFFALO

Re: ural recognized as cd: BUFFALO WLI-U2-KG54-AI

2007-09-20 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: got a ural a supposedly supported usb wifi adapter, BUFFALO WLI-U2-KG54-AI, and it's showing up as a detachable cd drive on a 4.1-release machine: umass0 at uhub3 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 umass0: BUFFALO WLI-U2-KG54-AI, rev 2.00/1.15, addr 2 umass0: using SCSI

Re: Error while trying to build xenocara

2007-09-20 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On 9/20/07, Gregory Edigarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you kidding? No he wasn't. Did you read /usr/src/xenocara/README? There's a whole paragraph discussing your case: more +134 /usr/src/xenocara/README.

Flash drives (was: Re: help needed with laptop hdd)

2007-09-20 Thread Christian Weisgerber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of a flash drive for regular use anyway. I'm not going to take your word for it. Speaking of flash drives, I recently realized again that the OpenBSD CVS repository isn't all that big by todays standards: about 4 GB,

Re: Flash drives (was: Re: help needed with laptop hdd)

2007-09-20 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 19:02:23 +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: I need to look at the options for fitting a compact flash as an ATA drive into a normal PC. There are lot's of adapters. Some examples can be found here: http://www.pcengines.ch/cflash.htm Maurice

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-20 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/20 10:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of a flash drive for regular use anyway. This depends very much on what your regular use is. They're a lot tougher than common knowledge would have you believe.

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-20 Thread rcopsey
- Original Message - From: Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:29 pm Subject: Re: help needed with laptop hdd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org On 2007/09/20 10:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of

Re: Flash drives (was: Re: help needed with laptop hdd)

2007-09-20 Thread Nick Nauwelaerts
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:20:49 +0200 Maurice Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 19:02:23 +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: I need to look at the options for fitting a compact flash as an ATA drive into a normal PC. There are lot's of adapters. Some examples

Re: 2 internet connections on 1 router

2007-09-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:43:29PM +0200, Marian Hettwer wrote: However, the old DSL provider tries to get on my ass, and I figured, okay boys, if you don't let me outta this contract, I'll use your uplink to the max 24/7 (while true; do wget -O /dev/null http://something.iso; done). If you

Re: FW: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 11:13:48AM -0400, stuart van Zee wrote: There is no such thing as Solving Security. It does not exist. It could only exist in a perfect world and as you know, or at least should know, this is NOT a perfect world. I have one absolutely secure computer. Actually I

Is AMD64 page out of date about W^X?

2007-09-20 Thread rwaite1
According to: http://www.openbsd.org/amd64.html W^X will not work on Intel's 64 bit chips. I for one chose to go with i386 on my Core 2 because of this fact alone. Then I saw this: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20041011182310.html and scores of other pages that refer to the XD bit.

Re: Is AMD64 page out of date about W^X?

2007-09-20 Thread Darren Spruell
On 9/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to: http://www.openbsd.org/amd64.html W^X will not work on Intel's 64 bit chips. I for one chose to go with i386 on my Core 2 because of this fact alone. Intel produces 2 families of 64-bit processors; the EM64T and an AMD64

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread chefren
On 09/19/07 13:07, Die Gestalt wrote: On 9/19/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think in German, it's call Chaise or something very close to that I believe, but I am absolutely sure the spelling is not good. .. ScheiCe? Merde? Using non-ASCII characters in e-mail is also:

Re: Is AMD64 page out of date about W^X?

2007-09-20 Thread Ted Unangst
On 9/20/07, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to: http://www.openbsd.org/amd64.html W^X will not work on Intel's 64 bit chips. I for one chose to go with i386 on my Core 2 because of this fact alone. the early chips

Re: Is AMD64 page out of date about W^X?

2007-09-20 Thread rwaite1
I am not so sure of that.If you go here: http://processorfinder.intel.com/Default.aspx and then select Core 2 Duo or some such... then filter by Execute Disable Bit under supported features... you will see a bunch of Core 2s. The Core 2 is ia32e. It is not EM64T. According to some sites... if

isakmp phase 2 negotiation failed

2007-09-20 Thread n0g0013
having a nightmare getting two openbsd (one 3.8, one 4.0) boxes to setup a tunnel. finally got the phase 1 negotiation going (or so i believe from reviewing the logs) but it appears that the phase two starts and is just abandoned. my best guess is that the default definitions for

Re: Is AMD64 page out of date about W^X?

2007-09-20 Thread Ted Unangst
On 9/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not so sure of that.If you go here: http://processorfinder.intel.com/Default.aspx and then select Core 2 Duo or some such... then filter by Execute Disable Bit under supported features... you will see a bunch of Core 2s. The Core

Re: Is AMD64 page out of date about W^X?

2007-09-20 Thread rwaite1
Well I'll be durned.. apparently ia32e is EM64T(Intel's marketing name for it). I was thinking it was the itanium arch which is actually ia64. But either way... EM64T is supposed to run on AMD64... the only question is will OpenBSD respond accordingly when NXE is present during dmesg. And if

Re: isakmp phase 2 negotiation failed

2007-09-20 Thread Daniel Ouellet
n0g0013 wrote: having a nightmare getting two openbsd (one 3.8, one 4.0) boxes to setup a tunnel. finally got the phase 1 negotiation going (or so i believe from reviewing the logs) but it appears that the phase two starts and is just abandoned. This may not be the best advise, but there have

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:26:14 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of a flash drive for regular use anyway. Flash and super dense mag drives seem fine for use if write/erase only happens occasionally (i.e. embedded/mp3 etc...) The next step: The next

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-20 Thread rcopsey
- Original Message - From: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:50 pm Subject: Re: help needed with laptop hdd To: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:26:14 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of a

Re: Skype on OpenBSD 4.1 using Fedora RPM

2007-09-20 Thread Siju George
On 9/20/07, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody successfully using skype on OpenBSD 4.1 using Linux emulation? If so which RPM are you using? O.K with the help of Martynas Venckus I got Skype running on 4.1 had to copy libasound.so.2 = /usr/lib/libasound.so.2

Re: help needed with laptop hdd

2007-09-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:25:40 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess they are great and I'm an idiot, nuff said... No. I don't think so. There are lots of things (in techy stuff particularly) that are true at some point. Later on that thing becomes no longer true but the meme hangs around and

OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-20 Thread Josh
Hello there. We have a bunch of obsd firewalls, 8 at the moment, all working nice and so forth. But we need to add about another 4 in there for new connections and networks, which means more machines to find room for. So basically I have been asked to investigate running all these firewalls

Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-20 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sep 20, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Josh wrote: Hello there. We have a bunch of obsd firewalls, 8 at the moment, all working nice and so forth. But we need to add about another 4 in there for new connections and networks, which means more machines to find room for. So basically I have been

Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-20 Thread Nick Holland
Josh wrote: Hello there. We have a bunch of obsd firewalls, 8 at the moment, all working nice and so forth. But we need to add about another 4 in there for new connections and networks, which means more machines to find room for. So basically I have been asked to investigate running

Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-20 Thread bofh
On 9/20/07, Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 20, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Josh wrote: Can someone please inform me if this is a really bad idea or not, ideally with some nice reasoning? What type of throughput is required between each segment? If you've been around here much, you've

Re: Shutdown script (derived from Simple startup daemon's on boot question?)

2007-09-20 Thread Siju George
On 9/19/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007/09/19 14:48, Tomas wrote: Watching the thread about startup script I thought of a question about shutdown script. Is it necessary to shutdown certain services when machine goes down? Like for example mysql, dovecot, clamav,

Re: OpenBSD firewalls as virtual machine ?

2007-09-20 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sep 20, 2007, at 9:53 PM, bofh wrote: On 9/20/07, Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 20, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Josh wrote: Can someone please inform me if this is a really bad idea or not, ideally with some nice reasoning? What type of throughput is required between each segment?

Re: Forward traffic on incoming port help

2007-09-20 Thread Jake Conk
Yes the PF setup appears to be very easy to setup and I've tried doing it but I can't get it working like the OpenBSD website describes which is why I'm looking for another solution... I added this rdr rule to my pf.conf: rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port ftp - 192.168.10.9 port ftp

Re: Forward traffic on incoming port help

2007-09-20 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sep 20, 2007, at 10:17 PM, Jake Conk wrote: Yes the PF setup appears to be very easy to setup and I've tried doing it but I can't get it working like the OpenBSD website describes which is why I'm looking for another solution... I added this rdr rule to my pf.conf: rdr on $ext_if proto tcp

Re: FW: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread The One
On 9/21/07, stuart van Zee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone can solve security, whether it is with Leopard or in the future, Apple definitely can. In my opinion, Apple performs 100% in the software field, and 90% in the hardware field, which is due

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Lars Hansson
On 9/20/07, The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry but I am just disagreed with Theo saying that OS X is buggy and insecure. Who gives a shit? This tread is more then FIVE months old and didnt even belong here in the first place. Just stop. --- Lars Hansson

Re: Microsoft gets the Most Secure Operating Systems award

2007-09-20 Thread Sean Darby
Many people are in agreement over this. Is it possible for someone in charge of the list to either ban or somehow stop The One [EMAIL PROTECTED] from continuing this particular thread/subject? Thank you! On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:36:34AM +0800, Lars Hansson wrote: On 9/20/07, The One [EMAIL

OpenBSD misc gets most fed Trolls award....

2007-09-20 Thread Bob Beck
Lemme give you a big whack with the old cluestick guys.. Trolls only work if you *respond*. If you don't feed it. it goes away. Please just stop feeding the trolls.