Re: HP PA-RISC / IA64 hardware platform for Linux Debian, Gentoo, NetBSD, OpenBSD and HP-UX Unix

2022-10-07 Thread Jesse Dougherty
gt; wrote: Hi, I'm Jesse at Cypress Technology Inc. We at Cypress sell HP hardware. Below are some links to HP PA-RISC and IA64 boxes that support the Linux Debian, Gentoo, NetBSD, OpenBSD Linux and HP-UX Unix platforms. If you are in need of systems, feel free to email back

Re: HP PA-RISC / IA64 hardware platform for Linux Debian, Gentoo, NetBSD, OpenBSD and HP-UX Unix

2022-10-07 Thread Tom Smyth
Oct 2022 at 13:16, Jesse Dougherty wrote: > Hi, I'm Jesse at Cypress Technology Inc. We at Cypress sell HP hardware. > Below are some links to HP PA-RISC and IA64 boxes that support the Linux > Debian, Gentoo, NetBSD, OpenBSD Linux and HP-UX Unix platforms. If you > are in need of system

HP PA-RISC / IA64 hardware platform for Linux Debian, Gentoo, NetBSD, OpenBSD and HP-UX Unix

2022-10-07 Thread Jesse Dougherty
Hi, I'm Jesse at Cypress Technology Inc. We at Cypress sell HP hardware. Below are some links to HP PA-RISC and IA64 boxes that support the Linux Debian, Gentoo, NetBSD, OpenBSD Linux and HP-UX Unix platforms. If you are in need of systems, feel free to email back with any question or requests

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-31 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Toni Mueller said that Although JCR calls it FUD, my personal opinion is that HP-UX is quite dead, with today's commercial Unices being AIX or Solaris. The latter imho has the best prospects of surviving, now that IBM is also shipping it. it's

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-31 Thread Karl Sjödahl - dunceor
On 8/31/07, frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm, on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Toni Mueller said that Although JCR calls it FUD, my personal opinion is that HP-UX is quite dead, with today's commercial Unices being AIX or Solaris. The latter imho has the best prospects

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-30 Thread Henning Brauer
* Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-29 23:48]: On 8/29/07, Jussi Peltola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:17:11PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial,

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-29 Thread Bryan Irvine
snip In general the only truly fair test data you'll find is in the various presentations made by Theo and other developers over the years which compares OpenBSD to itself, with and without specific security features enabled. It can give you a rough idea of the performance cost of the various

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-29 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:45:01PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This might be a serious problem if the LDAP system is to handle network-wide logins...

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-29 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
2007/8/29, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:45:01PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This might be a serious problem if

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-29 Thread Marc Balmer
Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote: 2007/8/29, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:45:01PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-29 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:17:11PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This might be a serious problem if the LDAP system is to handle network-wide logins... This doesn't stop you

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-29 Thread Darren Spruell
On 8/29/07, Jussi Peltola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:17:11PM +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This might be a serious problem if the LDAP system is

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-28 Thread Marc Balmer
Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: We run an OpenLDAP installation on OpenBSD that is fully synchronized on two servers (one master, one slave) for the public schools here. ~15'000 accounts and all important systems (email, fileserver, even the ~80 firewalls, login, etc.) pull their data from it.

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-28 Thread Nick Holland
Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Travers Buda wrote: *snip* Just tell him that OpenBSD in the stead of HP-UX will be cheaper, faster to setup, and easier to maintain (because of your experience with Open.) Both OpenBSD and HP-UX can do LDAP, yes, but it's yourself that makes

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-28 Thread Joachim Schipper
and decided to use other OSes instead. How was your adventure?? Can you be more specific?? I know the cost part...obviously it is more cheaper run OpenBSD that HP-UX. But i need more...something really heavy like I tried to install an OpenLDAP with HP-UX and the system load with 2000 users

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-28 Thread Marc Balmer
Joachim Schipper wrote: P.S. One more issue: you *do* realize that getting OpenBSD to authenticate against LDAP is not entirely trivial, right? This might be a serious problem if the LDAP system is to handle network-wide logins... OpenBSD can not authenticat against an LDAP server. Well,

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Travers Buda wrote: *snip* Just tell him that OpenBSD in the stead of HP-UX will be cheaper, faster to setup, and easier to maintain (because of your experience with Open.) Both OpenBSD and HP-UX can do LDAP, yes, but it's yourself that makes the difference here. Oh, and you have much more

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
say nothing about HP-UX, but OpenBSD surely is a stable foundation for an OpenLDAP server. - Marc Balmer, micro systems Thanks in advance, alvaro

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Travers Buda wrote: *snip* Just tell him that OpenBSD in the stead of HP-UX will be cheaper, faster to setup, and easier to maintain (because of your experience with Open.) Both OpenBSD and HP-UX can do LDAP, yes, but it's yourself that makes the difference

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
you be more specific?? I know the cost part...obviously it is more cheaper run OpenBSD that HP-UX. But i need more...something really heavy like I tried to install an OpenLDAP with HP-UX and the system load with 2000 users rise to the sky...but the same number of users with OpenBSD had

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread Jason Dixon
On Aug 27, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Travers Buda wrote: *snip* Just tell him that OpenBSD in the stead of HP-UX will be cheaper, faster to setup, and easier to maintain (because of your experience with Open.) Both OpenBSD and HP-UX can do

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
about the advantages of OpenBSD over HP-UX. But...i have hope yet...he does not close the door to the OpenBSD possibility. He wants probes...only i need to find a heavy argument. For example...the developers that port OpenBSD to HPPA and HP300 platformsmaybe they have benchmarks between

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
think, the main point for my boss and his not understanding about the advantages of OpenBSD over HP-UX. But...i have hope yet...he does not close the door to the OpenBSD possibility. He wants probes...only i need to find a heavy argument. For example...the developers that port OpenBSD to HPPA

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-27 Thread Darren Spruell
On 8/27/07, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travers Buda wrote: *snip* Just tell him that OpenBSD in the stead of HP-UX will be cheaper, faster to setup, and easier to maintain (because of your experience with Open.) Both OpenBSD and HP-UX can do LDAP, yes, but it's

OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-22 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
information about the HP-UX skills doing this role. The price for the solution (HP-UX or OpenBSD) does not matter this time, so the argument OpenBSD is OpenSource and the other is a propietary Unix $$ is not an acceptable argument. Anyone have experience with this two OS?? Is there any heavy

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-22 Thread Marc Balmer
this two OS and there is a poor information about the HP-UX skills doing this role. The price for the solution (HP-UX or OpenBSD) does not matter this time, so the argument OpenBSD is OpenSource and the other is a propietary Unix $$ is not an acceptable argument. Anyone have experience

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-22 Thread Travers Buda
doesn't show a truly comparative between this two OS and there is a poor information *snip* Just tell him that OpenBSD in the stead of HP-UX will be cheaper, faster to setup, and easier to maintain (because of your experience with Open.) Both OpenBSD and HP-UX can do LDAP, yes, but it's yourself

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-22 Thread J.C. Roberts
a truly comparative between this two OS and there is a poor information about the HP-UX skills doing this role. The price for the solution (HP-UX or OpenBSD) does not matter this time, so the argument OpenBSD is OpenSource and the other is a propietary Unix $$ is not an acceptable argument

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-22 Thread frantisek holop
doesn't show a truly comparative between this two OS and there is a poor information about the HP-UX skills doing this role. The price for the solution (HP-UX or OpenBSD) does not matter this time, so the argument OpenBSD is OpenSource and the other is a propietary Unix $$ is not an acceptable

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-22 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
this two OS and there is a poor information about the HP-UX skills doing this role. The price for the solution (HP-UX or OpenBSD) does not matter this time, so the argument OpenBSD is OpenSource and the other is a propietary Unix $$ is not an acceptable argument. Anyone have experience

Re: OpenBSd or HP-UX?

2007-08-22 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wednesday 22 August 2007, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: tried to take a bit of a side adventure and get HP-UX going on a PA-RISC machine and it's no walk in the park. for cost, support, compatibility and simplicity reasons i've abandoned the project and decided to use other OSes instead.