Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-14 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Mark Heath wrote: I wouldn't see that it would be difficult to write a yuvtool to copy the chroma channels into the luma and show the video image this way. Maybe include it in a set of video tools to display more engineering information about a yuv stream... I have written a channel

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-14 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Trent Piepho wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Bernhard Praschinger wrote: Andrea Giuliano wrote: I found this interesting link: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Color_problem_patch that could be of some help. The pictures there show exactly the same problem I get. The author first

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-13 Thread Mark Heath
I wouldn't see that it would be difficult to write a yuvtool to copy the chroma channels into the luma and show the video image this way. Maybe include it in a set of video tools to display more engineering information about a yuv stream... I have written a channel splitter available on

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-13 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo Andrea Giuliano wrote: I found this interesting link: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Color_problem_patch that could be of some help. The pictures there show exactly the same problem I get. The author first thought it was a comb filter issue, but then he proposed a patch

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-13 Thread Trent Piepho
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Bernhard Praschinger wrote: Andrea Giuliano wrote: I found this interesting link: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Color_problem_patch that could be of some help. The pictures there show exactly the same problem I get. The author first thought it was a

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-12 Thread Mark Heath
Hi Andrea, Since you mention that your camcorder, with the 1.2m S-Video cable, produces the same pattern, it is unlikely to be a source of external interference. However you did mention you changed something recently inside your computer? This change could be causing the interference.

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-10 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Trent Piepho wrote: It looks a lot like chroma interference with the luma signal. It could be caused by an incorrect comb filter setup in the video decoder. What do you mean exactly? Is there some v4l configuration I should check? Where is this filter set up? Anyway, thanks for you kind

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-10 Thread Andrea Giuliano
I found this interesting link: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Color_problem_patch that could be of some help. The pictures there show exactly the same problem I get. The author first thought it was a comb filter issue, but then he proposed a patch to cx88-core.c related to a

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-10 Thread Trent Piepho
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Andrea Giuliano wrote: Trent Piepho wrote: It looks a lot like chroma interference with the luma signal. It could be caused by an incorrect comb filter setup in the video decoder. What do you mean exactly? Is there some v4l configuration I should check? Where is

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-09 Thread Andrea Giuliano
No, it wasn't the wireless keryboard. By the way, Mark, can you explain to me how did you split the image into YUV's channels? It's very interesting for me, but I could not find a way to do that, due to my rather low level of practice. Best regards. Mark Heath wrote: I've split this image

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-09 Thread Trent Piepho
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Andrea Giuliano wrote: Okay, you and Burkhard suspect radio interference. But you have not seen the full pictures I sent to Bernhard Praschinger. In those picture you could see that the pattern is not spread all over the frame: the trunks of the trees, and the rocks too,

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-08 Thread Stefan M. Fendt
Hi, Okay, you and Burkhard suspect radio interference. But you have not seen the full pictures I sent to Bernhard Praschinger. Yes, and now I am glad, I have seen one. This clearly is _no_ interference. It is something DCT-related. I currently can't tell you what has happend (to little time,

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-08 Thread Stefan M. Fendt
Here a very small highpass-filtered cutout... Eventually it helps our encoder-/decoder-specialists on the list? Stefan attachment: Pattern.jpg signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-08 Thread Mark Heath
I've split this image into it's Y-U-V channels, There appears to be no noise in the chroma channels only the Luma channel. This could be due to: * the chroma channels being half resolution, not enough resolution to represent the noise pattern. (below the nyquist value) * the interference

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-08 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Dear Mark and Stefan, many thanks for your investigations. I'll do what you suggest and let you know as soon as possible. At present I can only say that: 1) the distance between the source and the card doesn't seem to matter, because the same results are obtained when I try to record from the

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-08 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Well, I made some of the suggested tests, and here are the results. I disconnected from the powerline every device except the monitor and then recorded from the satellite receiver (yes, the one with 35 meter long cable...): same results. I tried with decimation 2: same results. I tried with

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-07 Thread Burkhard Plaum
Hi, Andrea Giuliano schrieb: Stefan M. Fendt wrote: [...] Possibly one of your neighbors has a new Microwave-Oven? Microwave oven works at 2.45 GHz, S-Video bandwidth is below 10 MHz - No interference Next time somone blames the earth radiation Burkhard

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-07 Thread Stefan M. Fendt
Hello Burkhard, Microwave oven works at 2.45 GHz, S-Video bandwidth is below 10 MHz - No interference Erm,... ... Burkhard, have I offended you somehow ??¿¿?? Next time somone blames the earth radiation so why do you offend me? To make you one thing clear: I do not have won my degree

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-07 Thread Burkhard Plaum
Hi, Stefan M. Fendt schrieb: Hello Burkhard, Microwave oven works at 2.45 GHz, S-Video bandwidth is below 10 MHz - No interference Erm,... ... Burkhard, have I offended you somehow ??¿¿?? No. Next time somone blames the earth radiation so why do you offend me? I didn't

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-07 Thread Stefan M. Fendt
Am Freitag, den 07.03.2008, 15:11 +0100 schrieb Burkhard Plaum: I didn't mean to offend you. Someone does not necessarily mean you :) It was more a joke. OK. So, what about outlawing lightnings? SCNR TV != S-Video cable (see below) Yes, of course. Ok but even 50 MHz and it's harmonics

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-06 Thread Stefan M. Fendt
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 05.03.2008, 23:14 +0100 schrieb Andrea Giuliano: For me it looks like it could be radio-interference... The cable are the same I've been using without any problem since I bought the DC30+ back in 2006. I use a 35 meters long composite video 35 meters? *WOW* Could you

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-06 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Stefan M. Fendt wrote: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 05.03.2008, 23:14 +0100 schrieb Andrea Giuliano: For me it looks like it could be radio-interference... Never thought about it, nevertheless you could be right. The cable are the same I've been using without any problem since I bought the

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-05 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo Indeed, I guess you will find rather interesting the picture I'm sending. If you zoom a bit any of them you will see what I mean, and maybe you will find the right words to tell what it is. I have cut out a small sample of one image where I think you can see that problem. Maybe someone

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-03-05 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Bernhard Praschinger wrote: Hallo Also, you will notice, in the picture of the woods, that the trunks of the trees are not affected by the problem. The rocks are less affected than other objects. It seems that it is hard to get a single color on larger areas. Do you also see that problem

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-02-29 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Bernhard Praschinger wrote: Hallo Just a idea, you could upload it to the SF. And treat is like a file release. And I make it aviable afterwards. Take a look here how to upload files to SF: http://alexandria.wiki.sourceforge.net/File+Release+System+-+Offering+Files+for+Download Dear

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-02-28 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo both my miroVideo DC30+ and KWorld DVB-S 100 capture card show on every frame a strange pattern that I never got before. I say zig-zag but I'm not sure is the right expression. The best way to understand what I mean is watching it with your very eyes. I can provide a very short

[Mjpeg-users] Zig-zag pattern on every frame...

2008-02-25 Thread Andrea Giuliano
Hi, both my miroVideo DC30+ and KWorld DVB-S 100 capture card show on every frame a strange pattern that I never got before. I say zig-zag but I'm not sure is the right expression. The best way to understand what I mean is watching it with your very eyes. I can provide a very short sample,