Re: [mp2] win2000 + Apache::DBI + Oracle

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 01:45, Stas Bekman wrote: mp2+winFU => winnt MPM => no forking, only threads => Apache::DBI is useless there. not only useless, but also wasteful, since it's going to do work that has no added value. But how is this any different from separate proces

Re: [mp2] win2000 + Apache::DBI + Oracle

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 01:45, Stas Bekman wrote: > mp2+winFU => winnt MPM => no forking, only threads => Apache::DBI is useless > there. not only useless, but also wasteful, since it's going to do work that > has no added value. But how is this any different from separate processes really? Each

Re: [mp2] win2000 + Apache::DBI + Oracle

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 21:02, Stas Bekman wrote: Paul Simon wrote: So, according to the docs, http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/performance/mpm.html#Work_with_DataBases_under_Threaded_MPM, using Apache::DBI doesn't do anything under mp2+windows2000 ... That's correct. Sinc

Re: [mp2] win2000 + Apache::DBI + Oracle

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 21:02, Stas Bekman wrote: > Paul Simon wrote: > > So, according to the docs, > > http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/performance/mpm.html#Work_with_DataBases_under_Threaded_MPM, > > using Apache::DBI doesn't do anything under > > mp2+windows2000 ... > > That's correct. Since

Re: [mp2] make test fails with 1.99_10-dev sources on redhat

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:55, Haroon Rafique wrote: > Now onto serious stuff. /usr/bin/perl here is the system-wide perl install > that came bundled with Redhat. Just a thought: did you fix the locale on that machine? Most of CPAN won't compile on Red Hat 8 and 9 because of the broken UTF8 locale

ANNOUNCE: Embperl 2.0b9

2003-06-09 Thread Gerald Richter
The URL ftp://ftp.dev.ecos.de/pub/perl/embperl/Embperl-2.0b9.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/G/GR/GRICHTER/Embperl-2.0b9.tar.gz size: 654860 bytes md5: 3a4836d15100feb2bf9c37e9470a1d1d While development has continued all the time, there was a long time no release o

testing your CPAN modules with Apache::Test and both mod_perl generations

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Just in case you didn't know, you can use Apache::Test for testing your code with both mod_perl generations. It certainly helps to automate the testing. For example I use the following simple smoker script to run the test suite on Apache::Peek with different versions of perl and mod_perl. Kudos

Re: modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
speeves wrote: Stas Bekman wrote: [...] http://search.cpan.org/src/STAS/Apache-Peek-1.01/t/response/TestApachePeek/basic.pm That did it!!! Thank you so much for your patience and help with all that I am working on here. After I test these changes on modperl 1 tomorrow, I should be able to upl

Re: modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread speeves
Stas Bekman wrote: Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 13:57, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: To answer your original question, Apache::Peek on CPAN now works with both mod_perl versions. And while it uses separate implementations for each version, the test suite

Simple DAV Server?

2003-06-09 Thread Trevor Phillips
I'm quite suprised at the limited amount of custom DAV server uses. I mean, here's a protocol for editing content over HTTP, which to me screams as an ideal solution for, say, editing full HTML content within a DB/CMS. I mean, I've been working as Technical Support at a uni for Web Services, and

Re: [mp2] win2000 + Apache::DBI + Oracle

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Paul Simon wrote: So, according to the docs, http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/performance/mpm.html#Work_with_DataBases_under_Threaded_MPM, using Apache::DBI doesn't do anything under mp2+windows2000 ... That's correct. Since Apache::DBI does per-process pooling, and apache 2.0 on winFU, runs o

[mp2] win2000 + Apache::DBI + Oracle

2003-06-09 Thread Paul Simon
So, according to the docs, http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/performance/mpm.html#Work_with_DataBases_under_Threaded_MPM, using Apache::DBI doesn't do anything under mp2+windows2000 ... What is the status of DBI::Pool? These modules deal mainly with persistent database connections. Is that corre

Re: PerlOptions Clone/Parent in mp2

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Marc M. Adkins wrote: However I think it is possible to make the architecture more flexible to allow pools sharing across specific vhosts, or even location containers (if the scope is set to be only for the handler). e.g. something like: #base server # parameters # parameters PerlUseTiPool A

RE: PerlOptions Clone/Parent in mp2

2003-06-09 Thread Marc M. Adkins
> However I think it is possible to make the architecture more > flexible to allow > pools sharing across specific vhosts, or even location containers (if the > scope is set to be only for the handler). e.g. something like: > > #base server > > > # parameters > > > # parameters > > > > PerlUse

Re: Compling mod_perl as a static module....

2003-06-09 Thread Ged Haywood
Hello again, On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Referring back to my original post, it with the options I specified, the > compile process still insists on compiling mod_perl as a DSO. Even if I > explicitly set USE_DSO=0 -- I wonder if one of the other flags (like > EVERYTHING=1)

Re: [mp2] make test fails with 1.99_10-dev sources on redhat

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Haroon Rafique wrote: On Saturday at 9:22am, SB=>Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SB> I think the issue is very simple: @INC had system libraries dirs SB> before the freshly build ones, so dumping @INC contents prior to libs SB> loading should aid the debug. But please use the latest cvs, si

Re: PerlOptions Clone/Parent in mp2

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Marc M. Adkins wrote: wrt Apache 2.0, mod_perl 2.0... I'm not using Clone or Parent at the current time, but I was re-reading the documentation on them for an unrelated reason and started thinking about how they would work. Suppose I want to set up five virtual hosts with modules A - E. Then I wa

Re: modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 13:57, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: To answer your original question, Apache::Peek on CPAN now works with both mod_perl versions. And while it uses separate implementations for each version, the test suite uses the same code to

Re: modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread Shannon Eric Peevey
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 13:57, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: Yeah, I've been messing with that, but it seems to me that I need something similar to a preprocessor directive, where I can load the appropriate "use MODULE" lines into the module bases upon which version of modpe

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 15:24, Perrin Harkins wrote: > [ Please keep it on the list. ] > Sorry about that! > On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:12, Ryan Muldoon wrote: > > > Ryan, can you post a more complete code example? > > > > > > - Perrin > > Here it is: > > > > package Apache::AuthNx509; > > > > use

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
[ Please keep it on the list. ] On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:12, Ryan Muldoon wrote: > > Ryan, can you post a more complete code example? > > > > - Perrin > Here it is: > > package Apache::AuthNx509; > > use strict; > use Apache::Constants qw(:common); > use Text::ParseWords qw(quotewords); > use

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
Actually, upon flushing my browser cache and checking again, I can in fact read the MOD_PERL environment variable just fine. But still no luck on any mod_ssl related variables. --Ryan

Re: Mod_perl 1.99 spawning processes causing major performanceissue

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
Thanks for using REPORT! On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:07, George Bagley wrote: > On Apache 1.3, when I do a ps -ef, I cannot see the cgi script running. > I assume this is because Apache is NOT spawning a separate process to > satisfy the request. > > On Apache2, there are hundreds of the cgi scripts

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Geoffrey Young
Ok, removed. Thank you very much for the in-depth replies. It is very useful. Unfortunately any variable-reading continues to elude me. But I really appreciate all the help! well, it sounds like you are having a larger problem that just mod_ssl-based variables. since you mention you're inter

Mod_perl 1.99 spawning processes causing major performance issue

2003-06-09 Thread George Bagley
-8<-- Start Bug Report 8<-- 1. Problem Description: Hi I have ugraded from apache1.3 to Apache2 and I am having a performance problem with a cgi script. Hardware Dell 2550, Dual Proc, 2GB RAM, RedHat Linux 9.0 On A

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 15:35, Geoffrey Young wrote: > no, I wasn't saying that :) subprocess_env() from the main request is the > right way to go. I was just trying to let you know that it has nothing to > do with %ENV really. I wouldn't go that far. %ENV does get populated with that stuff, ju

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:35, Geoffrey Young wrote: > Ryan Muldoon wrote: > > Geoffrey, > > > > Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, I think I am still a little > > unclear as to how to proceed. If I understand you correctly, my first > > method is completely wrongheaded. > > :) > >

Re: Mod_perl spawning processes

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 15:34, George Bagley wrote: > CONFIG redhat linux 9.0 > apache 2 I'm afraid that's not enough info to guess what you're doing. Please read http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/help/help.html#Reporting_Problems > I have ugraded from apache1.3 to Apache2 and I am hav

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
>From what I understand, what you outline *should* work. It just doesn't for me for some reason. I really appreciate everyone's help though. (And as an aside - I learned how to program in Perl from your books - many thanks) --Ryan On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:23, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
I'm trying to do this as a PerlAuthenHandler, so it should be well past mod_ssl's involvement, but before the fixup stage. Trying to print out MOD_PERL either through a subprocess or ENV fails. So maybe I'm in bigger trouble than I thought? --Ryan On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:26, Issac Gold

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
I didn't. But I just set that, and it didn't seem to make a difference --Ryan On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:16, Randy Kobes wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Ryan Muldoon wrote: > > > Geoffrey, > > > > Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, I think I am > > still a little unclear as

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Geoffrey Young
Ryan Muldoon wrote: Geoffrey, Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, I think I am still a little unclear as to how to proceed. If I understand you correctly, my first method is completely wrongheaded. :) (I tried this because it is how the "Writing Apache Modules with Perl and C" does

Mod_perl spawning processes

2003-06-09 Thread George Bagley
Hi CONFIG redhat linux 9.0 apache 2 I have ugraded from apache1.3 to Apache2 and I am having a performance problem with a cgi script. On 1.3, when I do a ps, I cannot see the cgi script running. On 2, there are hundreds of the cgi scripts running. The cgi makes a connection to a mys

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Randy Kobes
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Ryan Muldoon wrote: > Geoffrey, > > Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, I think I am > still a little unclear as to how to proceed. If I understand > you correctly, my first method is completely wrongheaded. (I > tried this because it is how the "Writing Apache

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Issac Goldstand
Ryan, Ust out of curiosity, at what stage in the request chain are you doing this? If you are doing anything before mod_ssl populates its environment variables (which I seem to rembmer being at Fixup, although I may be confusing with something else), you wouldn't be able to access them. You *sh

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
PerlSetEnv works fine. I can't, however, put PerlPassEnv inside either a Location or Directory block, if that makes any difference. Apache says it is a configuration error to do so (though PerlSetEnv works fine). I've tried every way that I can think of to do $r->subprocess_env('VARIABLE'), an

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Ryan" == Ryan Muldoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ryan> Geoffrey, Ryan> Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, I think I am still a little Ryan> unclear as to how to proceed. If I understand you correctly, my first Ryan> method is completely wrongheaded. (I tried this because it is

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
Geoffrey, Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, I think I am still a little unclear as to how to proceed. If I understand you correctly, my first method is completely wrongheaded. (I tried this because it is how the "Writing Apache Modules with Perl and C" does it. p.327) So it so

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:49, Ryan Muldoon wrote: > I tried that as well (and just re-tried). My understanding is that the > %ENV hash only gets updated in the fixup stage, so the mod_ssl > environment variables can't be accessed that way. Thanks for the > suggestion though! Okay. And you're cert

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Geoffrey Young
Ryan Muldoon wrote: I'm not able to get *any* variables out from the apache server environment. ok, first off, this is a two step process for Apache. the first step is that modules (like mod_ssl) populate the subprocess_env table with various values. then, modules like mod_cgi and mod_perl

RE: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
I'm using mod_perl 1. But I'm setting the handlers in httpd.conf. I sent a message to the list on thursday ("problem with pulling variables from mod_ssl") that more fully describes my situtation. --Ryan On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:31, Marc M. Adkins wrote: > IF you're using mp2...in your h

RE: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Marc M. Adkins
IF you're using mp2...in your httpd.conf are you setting up the handlers with modperl or perl-script? The former doesn't provide any environment variables: http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/config/config.html#C_SetHandler_ I don't believe this applies to mp1. mma > -Original Mes

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
I tried that as well (and just re-tried). My understanding is that the %ENV hash only gets updated in the fixup stage, so the mod_ssl environment variables can't be accessed that way. Thanks for the suggestion though! --Ryan On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 13:41, Perrin Harkins wrote: > On Mon, 20

Re: getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:29, Ryan Muldoon wrote: > I'm not able to get *any* variables out from the apache server > environment. Did you try the normal $ENV{'VARIABLE'} approach? - Perrin

getting *any* variables out of the server environment

2003-06-09 Thread Ryan Muldoon
I'm not able to get *any* variables out from the apache server environment. As you might be able to imagine, this is extremely frustrating, and inhibits my ability to do anything of use with mod_perl. My basic technique has been: my $uri = $r->uri; return unless $r->is_main();

Re: modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 13:57, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: > Yeah, I've been messing with that, but it seems to me that I need > something similar to a preprocessor directive, where I can load the > appropriate "use MODULE" lines into the module bases upon which version > of modperl they have insta

Re: modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread Shannon Eric Peevey
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 12:12, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: PS Am having problems with the compile time loading of modules depending on the existence of either modperl1 or 2... "use" dies and "require" is not importing the symbols correctly at runtime... If you read th

Re: Compling mod_perl as a static module....

2003-06-09 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Ged, This is what the make output shows... I've read the docs. Perhaps I need to try compiling mod_perl with a different method (I recall a build option with apxs, outside of the apache src tree). o perl_module uses ConfigStart/End + mod_perl build type: DSO + setting up mod_perl b

Re: modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 12:12, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: > PS Am having problems with the compile time loading of modules depending > on the existence of either modperl1 or 2... "use" dies and "require" is > not importing the symbols correctly at runtime... If you read the docs for "use" (perldo

modules that work with both modperl1 and 2

2003-06-09 Thread Shannon Eric Peevey
Hi! Just wondering if anyone knows of a perl module that is coded to work with modperl1 and 2? I am hitting a wall in getting my module to do that, and want to cheat a little off of someone who already has... ;) thanks, speeves cws PS Am having problems with the compile time loading of modules

Re: PERL/java interface available?

2003-06-09 Thread Mark Hawkes
At 07:34 2003-06-09 -0600, you wrote: Would anyone happen to know if there is a PERL/java interface where these two languages could talk to each other? Java can call any native function that's packaged in a dso or dll. (But is it possible to compile Perl modules to standalone dso?) Did anyone men

Re: PERL/java interface available?

2003-06-09 Thread wsheldah
I believe there's a Java.pm module on CPAN that will allow a perl program to instantiate java objects and call methods on them. That may or may not be enough intercommunication for what you need. Wes Sheldahl "Charlie Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/09/2003 09:34:04 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: PERL/java interface available?

2003-06-09 Thread Beau E. Cox
- Original Message - From: "Charlie Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:34 AM Subject: PERL/java interface available? Would anyone happen to know if there is a PERL/java interface where these two languages could talk to each other? Charlie

Re: Compling mod_perl as a static module....

2003-06-09 Thread Forrest Aldrich
At 03:26 AM 6/9/2003, Ged Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I want to try compiling mod_perl statically What's the question? 73, Ged. [ ... ] Referring back to my original post, it with the options I specified, the compile process still insists on compiling

Re: [mp2] make test fails with 1.99_10-dev sources on redhat

2003-06-09 Thread Haroon Rafique
On Saturday at 9:22am, SB=>Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SB> I think the issue is very simple: @INC had system libraries dirs SB> before the freshly build ones, so dumping @INC contents prior to libs SB> loading should aid the debug. But please use the latest cvs, since SB> I've messed wi

Re: is anybody using mp2 in production?

2003-06-09 Thread Beau E. Cox
- Original Message - From: "Chris Faust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sreeji K Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:20 AM Subject: Re: is anybody using mp2 in production? > > (Btw, Chris, are you using the worker mpm ? Is it > > stable ? We'd like to g

PERL/java interface available?

2003-06-09 Thread Charlie Smith
Would anyone happen to know if there is a PERL/java interface where these two languages could talk to each other? Charlie -- This message may contain confidential information, and is intended only for the use of the in

Re: is anybody using mp2 in production?

2003-06-09 Thread Chris Faust
> (Btw, Chris, are you using the worker mpm ? Is it > stable ? We'd like to go the worker mpm way & would > like to know if any1 is using it yet in production.) > On our dev server yes, and all seems well - but we haven't rolled it out in production yet. Its one of those things we want to do but k

Re: Fw: [OT] [Perl] HTML::Mason help anyone?

2003-06-09 Thread Issac Goldstand
Ged Haywood wrote: [snip] >>>I have a simple form [snip] >>>The problem is that I only see the values printed when I use the "GET" >>>option in the form above, when I change "GET" to "POST" nothing gets >>>printed... >>POST data can only be read once, if you want to read it again you have >>to save

Re: Fw: [Perl] HTML::Mason help anyone?

2003-06-09 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Issac Goldstand wrote: > Forwarded from the Israeli Perl Mongers mailing list: > > - Original Message - > From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:48 PM > Subject: [Perl] HTML::Mason help anyone? > > > > I

Fw: [Perl] HTML::Mason help anyone?

2003-06-09 Thread Issac Goldstand
Forwarded from the Israeli Perl Mongers mailing list: - Original Message - From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: [Perl] HTML::Mason help anyone? > I have a simple form that looks like so: > > enctype="text/plain"> > >

Re: Compling mod_perl as a static module....

2003-06-09 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I want to try compiling mod_perl statically What's the question? 73, Ged.