Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Fred Moyer
Longer response here. So I'm happy to be another active PMC member still involved. As someone with a growing family, my time is limited, but not too much to review and lend a +1 or feedback. I think that may be the case for a few of the folks on this list. I'd like to see Steve Hay lead the

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Adam Prime
I didn't say there are no developers, I said there is no active development happening. Steve Hay is a developer. Fred Moyer, who replied to this thread earlier this evening, has also made significant contributions to the project. I can dive into the C if I have to, to fix bugs or review code,

mod_perl alternatives

2021-03-17 Thread Jim Albert
Given the recent discussion on the need for mod_perl PMC members and the disclosure that there is no active development on mod_perl this seems like an appropriate time to start a thread on a discussion of mod_perl alternatives inline with the various means of using mod_perl from the low level

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Jim Albert
Sure... I'll start a new thread after I reply here. I don't know about how apache projects are maintained and the logistics, but there are two issues here. Foremost... from your previous response you need a few people to step up and file your described report indicating no new releases, but

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Fred Moyer
Happy to continue being a maintainer. Longer response coming soon :) On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 7:39 PM Adam Prime wrote: > I think if you want to discuss alternatives, then a new thread would be > the place to do that. > > With regards to plug being pulled, I think that it is up to the > community

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Adam Prime
I think if you want to discuss alternatives, then a new thread would be the place to do that. With regards to plug being pulled, I think that it is up to the community if, when, and how that happens. That's what the point of this thread is. If there aren't people that are committed enough to

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Jim Albert
Not that I want to be the guy that says it sounds like we'll be pulling the mod_perl plug at any time the right scenario arises, but is it reasonable to have a discussion here on mod_perl alternatives inline with the various means of using mod_perl from the low level means of interfacing with

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Adam Prime
The projects current state is that no new development happening. This isn't to say that new development shouldn't happen, but it isn't. Apache and Perl both continue to move forward, and we are pretty lucky that the design that Stas, Phillipe, Geoff, etc built mod_perl 2 under is resilient

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Adam Prime
When the roll call was done a month ago it's basically myself and Steve, with Steve really being the only one that has much knowledge of the guts of the project. Up until the last few months gozer (Phillippe Chaisson) was at least around enough to file reports, but has been MIA a few months.

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Steve Hay
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 19:40, Sander Striker wrote: > > Dear community members, > > As projects mature, they will naturally reach a point where activity reduces > to a level such that the project is no longer sustainable. At Apache, > projects reach this stage when there are not at least 3

RE: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread dcook
I am not interested in performing those duties but could you clarify how many active PMC members there are currently? It looks like the list at https://perl.apache.org/about/pmc.html is over 7 years out of date. It’s unclear how up-to-date the list at

Re: [DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Edward J. Sabol
On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Sander Striker wrote: > If you are interested in seeing mod_perl remain an active project, and are > able to help maintain and provide oversight, please respond in this thread > indicating that you are interested in performing the duties of a PMC > member[2]. I

[DISCUSS] The future of mod_perl

2021-03-17 Thread Sander Striker
Dear community members, As projects mature, they will naturally reach a point where activity reduces to a level such that the project is no longer sustainable. At Apache, projects reach this stage when there are not at least 3 active PMC members providing oversight. Projects that reach this