Re: SV: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Foo JH wrote: > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> Foo JH wrote: >> >>> Yes! It's really (in)famous! :) The more detailed error message seems to >>> be captured in the Event Application log instead. I wonder why error.log >>> wasn't more verbose on this one. >> >> Because, once it crashes it's no lon

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
CC-ing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the hopes that someone (**cough**wrowe?**cough**) might shed some deeper insight into why things were/are done the way they are, and what, if anything, would be needed to be done to make things better. I don't think that the problem is mod_perl, as much as the wi

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Issac Goldstand wrote: > CC-ing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the hopes that someone > (**cough**wrowe?**cough**) > might shed some deeper insight into why things were/are done the way > they are, and what, if anything, would be needed to be done to make > things better. > > I don't think that the prob

Re: SV: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Stephane GUIBOUD-RIBAUD
Philip M. Gollucci wrote: Its been about 6 years since I've tried anything mod_perl windows related, but I recall that some of the startup.pl files of that time loaded LibXML and related by default. You might have been loading it and just not using it. The related problem on windows is that m

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> Keep in mind, using the official build of httpd you have .pdb debug >> files that can be downloaded that exactly match the .exe/.dll's/.so's >> that we ship. That means you can -debug- these segfaults. > Am I able to make these from UNIX ?

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Mladen Turk
Issac Goldstand wrote: I don't think that the problem is mod_perl, as much as the winnt MPM in Apache2. The bottom line is that if anything goes wrong, you need the singleton child process to recycle itself, and very often in the case of mod_perl that can take a long time. There is experim

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Keep in mind, using the official build of httpd you have .pdb debug files that can be downloaded that exactly match the .exe/.dll's/.so's that we ship. That means you can -debug- these segfaults. Am I able to make these from UNIX ? Where can I read about this? Randy

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Foo JH wrote: > > By 'bad code' you're referring to code written by app developers? I > suspected I fall into that category, but even when I throw in all the > eval traps, the .dll errors still come to crash (and automatically > restart) apache. By bad code, I mean flaws in apr, httpd, modperl, p

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Foo JH
Hey Stephane, Thanks for zeroing in on the problem libraries. I don't remember using LibXML, but I'll see if I can replicate the problem as well, in a simplified model. Stephane GUIBOUD-RIBAUD wrote: I had a similar issue one year ago with mod_perl 2.0.0-RC4 and perl 5.6.1 (same issue with p

Re: SV: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Foo JH
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Foo JH wrote: Yes! It's really (in)famous! :) The more detailed error message seems to be captured in the Event Application log instead. I wonder why error.log wasn't more verbose on this one. Because, once it crashes it's no longer logging? Yet it is abl

Re: SV: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Foo JH
In the list of all modules you are using in your application, are you sure that all modules are thread-safe ? If only one is not thread-safe, you may encounter an error at a time while running your application ? For my part, I use mainly CPAN libraries. This includes: HTML::Template DBI DBD::

Re: SV: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Foo JH
Henrik Schak Hansen wrote: Hi All, I think we are a lot of windows users experiencing the same problem with mod_perl/apache: "The famous 3221225477 exit status". My company will also be willing to donate some money If it will help solving the problem. Yes! It's really (in)famous! :) The more d

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread Stephane GUIBOUD-RIBAUD
I had a similar issue one year ago with mod_perl 2.0.0-RC4 and perl 5.6.1 (same issue with perl 5.8). The problem was due to the use of LibXML (which is the fastest xml parsing library I found to parse large XML files) with mod_perl and apache in a multi-threaded environment. I also had some i

Re: SV: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Foo JH wrote: > Yes! It's really (in)famous! :) The more detailed error message seems to > be captured in the Event Application log instead. I wonder why error.log > wasn't more verbose on this one. Because, once it crashes it's no longer logging?

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-19 Thread Issac Goldstand
We were originally using 5.8.3, but reproduced the problem with both activeperl 5.8.8.819 with mod_perl-2.0.3-dev (from your PPM repository) as well as our own built perl + mod_perl 2.0.3-rc2 Randy Kobes wrote: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Foo JH wrote: > >> Issac Goldstand wrote: >>> YES! While it's

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-19 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Foo JH wrote: Issac Goldstand wrote: YES! While it's acceptable for light and smallish applications, I've never found it to be really usable once you're serving concurrent connections. On that note, I have a contract (job) offer for anyone who knows their way inside Per

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-19 Thread Foo JH
This is a disappointing piece of news. Perl itself is very useful on the Windows environment. If modperl cannot be reliably deployed on Windows, how can we expect the Windows developers (which form the majority of developers) to consider adopting perl/ modperl for the enterprise? I hope we can

Re: JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-19 Thread Foo JH
Why don't you post the error message here, and see if anyone has seen it before? Issac Goldstand wrote: YES! While it's acceptable for light and smallish applications, I've never found it to be really usable once you're serving concurrent connections. On that note, I have a contract (job) o

JOB [CONTRACT] + Re: Windows + MP2 in a production environment

2006-11-19 Thread Issac Goldstand
YES! While it's acceptable for light and smallish applications, I've never found it to be really usable once you're serving concurrent connections. On that note, I have a contract (job) offer for anyone who knows their way inside Perl (5.8) and mod_perl (2) enough to help troubleshoot a win