Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-16 Thread Jeff
That's not entirely true. Debian Sarge (stable) and Ubuntu Hoary both include packages for Apache 1.3.33 and Apache2 (2.0.54?). Sarge has a mod_perl2 package but it's based on a late 2.0RC, though it is post-rename, IIRC. Actually, the Debian Stable aka Sarge has 1.999.21-1 which is

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-16 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff wrote: That's not entirely true. Debian Sarge (stable) and Ubuntu Hoary both include packages for Apache 1.3.33 and Apache2 (2.0.54?). Sarge has a mod_perl2 package but it's based on a late 2.0RC, though it is post-rename, IIRC.

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-15 Thread Jens Gassmann
Hi, I don't think this changes your situation any. CGI is not really fast enough to use, so you still need mod_perl or FastCGI. Because the current crop of linux distros came out before mod_perl 2 but couldn't use mod_perl 1 (since they are using apache 2), they have poor mod_perl support in

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-15 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 18:07 -0700, David Christensen wrote: and tentatively plan to use the Debian 3.1 stable apache-perl package (Apache 1.33 and mod_perl 1.29). That sounds like a good plan. There may still be issues with their apache compile, but it's definitely better than using a

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-14 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 22:50 -0700, David Christensen wrote: If I understand it correctly, Catalyst can run under Perl/CGI, Apache/ mod_perl CGI emulation layers (Apache::Registry, FastCGI?, others?), Apache/ mod_perl, Apache2/ mod_perl2 CGI emulation layers (?), and Apache2/ mod_perl2. It's

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-14 Thread Justin Luster
] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:46 AM To: David Christensen Cc: modperl@perl.apache.org Subject: RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey) On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 22:50 -0700, David Christensen wrote: If I understand it correctly, Catalyst can run under Perl/CGI, Apache/ mod_perl CGI

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-14 Thread Frank Wiles
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:51:35 -0700 Justin Luster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Rackspace for my Unix hosting and support. They install Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and 4 that both have beta versions of Mod_Perl installed (ModPerl 1.99_16). Are these not recommended for use on a production

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-14 Thread David Christensen
Perrin Harkins wrote: I don't think this changes your situation any. CGI is not really fast enough to use, so you still need mod_perl or FastCGI. Because the current crop of linux distros came out before mod_perl 2 but couldn't use mod_perl 1 (since they are using apache 2), they have poor

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Perrin Harkins wrote: enough to use, so you still need mod_perl or FastCGI. Because the current crop of linux distros came out before mod_perl 2 but couldn't use mod_perl 1 (since they are using apache 2), they have poor mod_perl That's not entirely true. Debian Sarge

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-13 Thread Jeff
Perrin Harkins wrote: I hear you, but I think anyone who is building a serious web app is better off compiling the important parts (apache, perl, mod_perl) themselves. The options that the packagers choose are intended to meet the needs of the largest cross-section of users, not to work well

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 07:12 +0100, Jeff wrote: Debian provide a tested, stable environment, usually with added security factor. We rolled our own once to solve the libc6 2.7 memory bugs that hit Perl, to be bitten by intermittent and obscure interaction bugs (MySQL/Perl mid-query dropping db

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 15:22 -0700, David Christensen wrote: My goal is to be able to write Apache2/ mod_perl2/ MySQL applications and then sell and/or give them away with the instructions it works under *nix distribution X version Y.Z with packages A, B, C installed. If you want to sell it,

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
David Christensen said: Also, I prefer using binary packages for a given *nix distribution -- it's not my goal to develop Apache2 and/or mod_perl2, I want to *use* them to build web applications. I hear you, but I think anyone who is building a serious web app is better off compiling the

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-11 Thread David Christensen
Perrin Harkins wrote: I hear you, but I think anyone who is building a serious web app is better off compiling the important parts (apache, perl, mod_perl) themselves. The options that the packagers choose are intended to meet the needs of the largest cross-section of users, not to work well

RE: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-11 Thread David Christensen
Philip M. Gollucci wrote: What version of mp2 comes with Sarge packages ? 1.9922 or higher I hope. Thanks for your reply. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache showpkg libapache2-mod-perl2 | head -n 3 Package: libapache2-mod-perl2 Versions:

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-11 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache showpkg libapache2-mod-perl2 | head -n 3 Package: libapache2-mod-perl2 Versions: 1.999.21-1(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_ main_binary-i386_Packages)(/var/lib/dpkg/status) EW! I'd recompile and update... using the

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-10 Thread David Christensen
Carl Johnstone wrote: Sounds like a good idea, and if we point people in the right direction to get updated versions/backports for their distro that might help with the rest. As a Debian user I'd like to move to mod_perl2 proper, however I don't want to have to compile it for myself. So I've

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-10 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
David Christensen wrote: Carl Johnstone wrote: option of using the version in Sarge, and figuring our where I differ What version of mp2 comes with Sarge packages ? 1.9922 or higher I hope. When I try to port my Eagle book modules to mod_perl2, I trip over the very first step: [EMAIL

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-01 Thread Anton van Straaten
Carl Johnstone wrote: I think a great first-place to start for advocacy is to work with the various linux/bsd/*nix distributions out there to make sure that they have a modern, compatible version of mod_perl 2. As a user, I don't want to maintain my own perl/mod_perl build tree - I want my

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-01 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Anton van Straaten wrote: Carl Johnstone wrote: I think a great first-place to start for advocacy is to work with the various linux/bsd/*nix distributions out there to make sure that they have a modern, compatible version of mod_perl 2. As a user, I don't want to maintain my own perl/mod_perl

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-01 Thread Malcolm J Harwood
On Thursday 01 September 2005 04:26 pm, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: If people want to start emailing in what has what, I'll at least maintain the list until we figure out how best to use it and where to put it. Mandrake/Mandriva 2005LE (the last release) has perl 5.8.6, httpd 2.0.54, mod_perl

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-01 Thread Stef1
Philip M. Gollucci wrote: Anton van Straaten wrote: Carl Johnstone wrote: I think a great first-place to start for advocacy is to work with the various linux/bsd/*nix distributions out there to make sure that they have a modern, compatible version of mod_perl 2. As a user, I don't want to

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-09-01 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Anton van Straaten wrote: Carl Johnstone wrote: I think a great first-place to start for advocacy is to work with the various linux/bsd/*nix distributions out there to make sure that they have a modern, compatible version of mod_perl 2. As a user, I don't want to maintain my own

Re: *nix distro compatibility (was Re: survey)

2005-08-30 Thread Carl Johnstone
I think a great first-place to start for advocacy is to work with the various linux/bsd/*nix distributions out there to make sure that they have a modern, compatible version of mod_perl 2. As a user, I don't want to maintain my own perl/mod_perl build tree - I want my distro to do the right