On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:12:56 +0100
Philipp Haller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So here it goes...
A colleague at the research center where I work as a grad student has
worked the past 1-2 years on a Object Pascal front end (parser +
semantic analyzer) for a re-engineering tool. He has been using
Alexandre,
Have you asked your colleague if we could use his/her code on our
Pascal Compiler code (I think the name should be discussed here on the list)?
If this code could be used, could we make a fork on his cvs server or
should we try to use another server.
If you
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:54:51 +0100
Willi Krenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alexandre,
Have you asked your colleague if we could use his/her code on
our Pascal Compiler code (I think the name should be discussed
here on the list)? If this code could be used, could we make a
I completely agree that there has to be a Delphi compiler ...
Me too, I would love to see this project idea start to get going.
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Who uses Pascal anymore?
I use it on a daily base.
Hasn't everyone (that's serious) moved on to C++, Java and/or C#?
I also write C# programs. (I leave out Java and C++ in this mail)
Are there jobs in Pascal anymore?
Yes, there are. But most are not plain Pascal, they are Delphi. Ever
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:48:59 +0100
Willibald Krenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
To bring this discussion to an end: We'll neither change the world nor
making an impact in the world; We don't know if we'll ever reach our
goal or even if we'll create something useful - BUT we do think
On 03/15/05 Grant Hess wrote:
Concerning the amount of debate spawned by a simple attempt start this
project, I've come to a couple of conclusions.
1) Very few people care about the project
2) Official support will be limited
This is at best your misinformed opinion.
If by 'official
Edward Wilson wrote:
Why?
Who uses Pascal anymore?
I also use Delphi (commercially $$$) on a daily basis and C#. But I
choose the best language/framework for the job.
With the latest IDE, Delphi2005, I can work in native Delphi.win32, C#
and Delphi.net in the same project group.
Its a
The 'how','what' and 'when' parts still need to be
decided (some
probably next week); Of course we won't do this on
the mono-devel
list, but we'll report back here.
I would like to paritcipate on this project, on my
spare time also ...
Me too. Please include me in future
Willi
Good luck. Have tons of fun. Share the fun when done.
Regards,
Jambunathan K.
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:48:59 +0100, Willibald Krenn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
To bring this discussion to an end: We'll neither change the world nor making
an
impact in the world; We don't know if
I agree with you; however, I am less confident that in 5-10 years Pascal will
still be what it is
today. I would wager that Pascal is slowly loosing mindshare.
-
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Edward Wilson wrote:
Why?
Who uses Pascal anymore?
I also use Delphi
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 00:14, marc hoffman wrote:
It would be great if you are offering to release the source
of this Chrome compiler under an open source compatible
license.
Not likely to happen as long as some of us have to pay for rent and food
;)
Marc, there will always be
Willibald Krenn wrote:
Hi!
Would there be interest in adding a Delphi compatible compiler to Mono?
Somehow I'd like to see support for my pet language.. :-)
Any thoughts?
Willi
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Marc,
Thanks very much for your detailed answer.
Why would it be in the Mono cvs? Chrome is a closed-source commercial
product, it's not open source. I made that clear in my original post.
Of course you made that clear - perhaps I did not explain what /I/ meant clearly
enough: I somewhat missed a
Have you considered adopting boo[1] as the compiler infrastructure?
I'd love to cooperate with you and make sure the boo compiler
infrastructure can accommodate the needs of object pascal.
[1] http://boo.codehaus.org/
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:42:11 -0800, Grant Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant, et al.
A would love to see an Object Pascal (i.e. Delphi compatible)
compiler for Mono.
While not part of the Mono project per se, you might want to take a look
at Chrome, the Object Pascal compiler for .NET and Mono that we
currently are working on at RemObjects Software.
The
Grant,
Some of us have difficulty in trusting commercial products to
provide trustable solutions for software development.
Yeah well...
It would be great if you are offering to release the source
of this Chrome compiler under an open source compatible
license.
Not likely to happen
Willibald,
I did not know that Chrome is so closely bundeled with Mono -
but OTOH why doesn't mono ship with Chrome
For one thing, Chrome isn't released, just yet ;).
if it is
considered to be the standard object pascal compiler for
Mono? Or did I miss something here? Is there/Will
Todd Berman wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 03:08 +0100, Willibald Krenn wrote:
In short, I'm still willing to take the task of doing some open source
Delphi/Chrome/whatever compiler, but only if we have backing of Miguel.
Otherwise this would be wasted time, as it seems that 'alia iacta erat'
Willibald,
But you have the command line preview...
Yes.
Why is it not in
mono cvs, if it's the standard Pascal compiler? Everything's
there, except some Pascal compiler.
Why would it be in the Mono cvs? Chrome is a closed-source commercial
product, it's not open source. I made that
Willibald Krenn wrote:
How do you guys manage to get some work done while at the same time
hanging around in #mono? I can not do that, so I do not monitor #mono.
Willi
I think that it can only go further down from here!
Frankly folks, I see the beauty of an Open Source compiler for managed
Francisco T. Martinez schrieb:
Willibald Krenn wrote:
How do you guys manage to get some work done while at the same time
hanging around in #mono? I can not do that, so I do not monitor #mono.
Willi
I think that it can only go further down from here!
Sorry if this sounded harsh (or even worse) -
Francisco T. Martinez wrote:
I think that it can only go further down from here!
Frankly folks, I see the beauty of an Open Source compiler for managed
Pascal. However, I fail to see how is that adversarial with the folks
form RemObjects. There is plenty of room for all alternatives.
Please
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 04:38 +0100, marc hoffman wrote:
Let me close by saying that i think and hope that there's room here for
open source (Mono) and commercial (Chrome) software to co-exist and
support each other for mutual benefit - rather then working against each
other.
Of course there
Mr. Willibald
I am sorry Mr.Willibald. I have demeaned myself by getting in to
these flaming wars. My bad .
Mr. Hoffman
Upload your source code to svn under some Open Source licence and you
will see patches flowing in (if you are patient enough).
Otherwise I am forced to interpret your calls
Greetings,
A would love to see an Object Pascal (i.e. Delphi compatible) compiler
for Mono.
I would be quite willing to work on such a project (in my spare time),
but I don't have the documentation to do a decent job of it. It seems
to me that the best bet would be to match the language used
I would be quite willing to work on such a project (in my spare time),
Excellent!
but I don't have the documentation to do a decent job of it. It seems
to me that the best bet would be to match the language used by Borland's
products for maximum compatibility.
Yes, of course - this goes
Other than the fact that I don't know what the Delphi.net extensions to
the language spec are, I'd love to begin on this. I've spent almost 10
years working in Delphi (well, I did start with Turbo Pascal 8) ) and
would love to see it available in an open platform.
Comments follow:
Willibald
Grant Hess schrieb:
Other than the fact that I don't know what the Delphi.net extensions to
the language spec are, I'd love to begin on this.
I'll dig into this - basically I think foreach is in, attributes of course and
new visibility identifiers. Then there are co-classes, namespaces
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