Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-07 Thread Gervase Markham
> Actually, Gerv, they're not required to. Section VI of the NPL: > > IV. Inability to Comply Due to Contractual Obligation. > Prior to licensing the Original Code under this License, Netscape has licensed > third party code for use in Netscape's Branded Code. To the extent that Netscape > is lim

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-06 Thread jesus X
JTK wrote: > Netscape 6 is not an "Open Source" > project in any way, shape, or form. Mozilla may be "Open Source", but > Netscape 6 is a proprietary (as in, "where do I download the AIM > source?") piece of software. In that case. the Linux kernel isn't open either, because I can't download the

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-06 Thread W.
On 06 Jul 2001 15:57:38 -0500, JTK wrote: > Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > JTK wrote: > > > > > > Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > > > > > > No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches > > > > > from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to > >

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-06 Thread JTK
Gervase Markham wrote: > > JTK wrote: > > > > Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > > > > No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches > > > > from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to > > > > 6.x are added/refined, etc. > > > > > > That's not tru

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-06 Thread Gervase Markham
JTK wrote: > > Gervase Markham wrote: > > > > > No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches > > > from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to > > > 6.x are added/refined, etc. > > > > That's not true; > > That is 100%+ true and you damn wel

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-05 Thread jesus X
JTK wrote: > > Netscape should, if we read the license, > *IF*. You should do this, as I demonstrate below. > So where's the code for that sweet AIM program? Yeah. AIM is not part of the browser, thus would not be required to have available source code, even if NS were required to release thei

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-05 Thread jesus X
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches > > from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to > > 6.x are added/refined, etc. > > That's not true; Netscape should, if we read the license, be making source > releas

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Gervase Markham wrote: >> >> No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches >> from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to >> 6.x are added/refined, etc. > > That's not true; Netscape should, if we read the license, be making

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-05 Thread DeMoN_LaG
JTK wrote: > Gervase Markham wrote: > >>>No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches >>>from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to >>>6.x are added/refined, etc. >>> >>That's not true; >> > > That is 100%+ true and you damn well know it M

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-05 Thread JTK
Gervase Markham wrote: > > > No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches > > from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to > > 6.x are added/refined, etc. > > That's not true; That is 100%+ true and you damn well know it Mr. Markham. Do not

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-05 Thread Gervase Markham
> No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches > from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to > 6.x are added/refined, etc. That's not true; Netscape should, if we read the license, be making source releases (at the same time it makes binary r

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-05 Thread Greg Miller
Bren.. wrote: > i'd wait.. i'm sure netscape will throw out another release in a month. Saw a comment on a Bugzilla bug that indicated that NS planned to build the first NS6.1 RTM candidate this past tuesday. Won't be very long now until 6.1 is released. -- http://www.classic-games.com/

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread Jay Garcia
ZZT wrote: > Jay Garcia wrote: > > >>Mozilla is the "Mozilla Open Source Project" being developed by >>engineers connected to Mozilla.Org as well as contributing >>engineers/programmers outside of the Mozilla infrastructure. Netscape 6 >>is a co-branded version of Mozilla being developed by eng

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread Bren..
Edwin Overmeer wrote: > Hi, > > See subject... > personally i prefered netscape's PR1 release over the then current mozilla release 0.9.1. however, as always the latest release contains a few things that make it worth using over older releases. if you don't have anything better to do and the

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread Christopher Jahn
And it came to pass that ZZT wrote: > Jay Garcia wrote: > >> Mozilla is the "Mozilla Open Source Project" being >> developed by engineers connected to Mozilla.Org as well as >> contributing engineers/programmers outside of the Mozilla >> infrastructure. Netscape 6 is a co-branded version of >> M

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread Henri Sivonen
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ZZT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I don't understand, how mozilla 0.9x and Netscape Navigator 6.x > coherent. Netscape 6.1 PR1 is Mozilla 0.9.1 without Chatzilla and with Netscape Instant Messenger, bundled plug-ins, Netscape partner stuff, branding and mar

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread ZZT
Jay Garcia wrote: > Mozilla is the "Mozilla Open Source Project" being developed by > engineers connected to Mozilla.Org as well as contributing > engineers/programmers outside of the Mozilla infrastructure. Netscape 6 > is a co-branded version of Mozilla being developed by engineers employed > b

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread Jay Garcia
ZZT wrote: > > Edwin Overmeer wrote: > > > See subject... > > in my opinion yes, because I have the impression that bugs are removed faster. > > What I don't understand, how mozilla 0.9x and Netscape Navigator 6.x coherent. >Somebody here who can tell me more about the philosophy behind this

Re: Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread ZZT
Edwin Overmeer wrote: > See subject... in my opinion yes, because I have the impression that bugs are removed faster. What I don't understand, how mozilla 0.9x and Netscape Navigator 6.x coherent. Somebody here who can tell me more about the philosophy behind this 2 productlines? bye

Is it better to replace Netscape 6.1 PR1 with Mozilla 0.9.2 ?

2001-07-04 Thread Edwin Overmeer
Hi, See subject...