On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:01:19 +0100,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Well, I like all the games that are good, 3D, 2D... 4D?... ;-)
>
>I'll show you all a 53-D game:
>
> DDDDDD D D
>D D D DD DD D
>D DD D D D D DDD
>D D D D D D D D
> DDD D D D D
}:OO
] I totally agree with this last message :
]
] The last fifty games I've seen on PC were good demos but not really
] playable like the msx goldies were and always are...
I can not completely agree on this. Games like Jedi Knight and Diablo are
very playable indeed. They can match any game ever
A game is good/ bad because of the concept on which it is build...
2D or 3D is a way to express the concept, it is not the goal of the game to
be 2D or 3D, it should be fun to play
Just like cartoons and movies with actors, both have good and bad
examples...
Stephan
PS And don't say it is not t
On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:56:10 +0300, Alex Wulms wrote:
>I can not completely agree on this. Games like Jedi Knight and
>Diablo are very playable indeed. They can match any game
>ever released on MSX. Ofcourse, a lot of crap is released on
>the PC. But on the MSX also a lot of crap was
>release
>I think it's time to start talking about eh.. lemme think ...eh...
>politics and coffee in the former USSR, now :-)
X'D
(But, remember, FF7 is an excellent game!!)
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|Toni Burguera Burguera |
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Hi,
[blah-blah hypercubes blah math blah spheres blah etc blah]
> Hmm... this message is completely off-topic...
So what? Final F*ing Fantasy something-between-6-and-8 doesn't run on
any MSX, so the messages in this thread were off-topic from the
beginning...
I think it's time to start
Date sent: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:46:06
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From: Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: FF7 is... really so good?
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> At 15:31 23/08/98 +0200,
On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:40:36 +0200, Konami Man wrote:
>I continue with MSX for many reason. One of these is that WE
>HAVE NOT 3D GAMES, and I hope we will never have it.
I'd like greatly that someone would attemp a 3D vectorial (solid,
please) or at least something like Head over heels, Nights
>Well, I like all the games that are good, 3D, 2D... 4D?... ;-)
I'll show you all a 53-D game:
DDDDDD D D
D D D DD DD D
D DD D D D D DDD
D D D D D D D D
DDD D D D D
Ciao,
Eric
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At 13:46 23/08/98 +0200, you wrote:
>>Sure, MSX is a 2D machine normally, but 3D games can rule! Any more 3D games
>>I've never heard of?
>
>Outrun, for example. And lots of MSX-1 games... (of which I can't remember
>the names right now)
Only a note about Outrun, for MSX 2 (there were a M
Stephan Szarafinski wrote:
>A game is good/ bad because of the concept on which it is build...
>2D or 3D is a way to express the concept, it is not the goal of the game to
>be 2D or 3D, it should be fun to play
That would be true when the goal of the game was to be fun to play it. But
in the PC w
I totally agree with this last message :
The last fifty games I've seen on PC were good demos but not really
playable like the msx goldies were and always are...
I've recently (two days ago) buy an msx2+ and discover again how funny it
was. Today the funnest part on pc games is installing it an
-Original Message-
From: Konami Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: zondag 23 augustus 1998 12:05
Subject: FF7 is... really so good?
>>>Oh peopel, oh peopel, life DOES make sense to me again!!
>>>Why??? Yup, I'
>>I continue with MSX for many reason. One of these is that WE HAVE NOT 3D
>>GAMES, and I hope we will never have it.
>
>Ehm.. Lemme name 3: Feedback, Gunship, F1 Spirit 3D. All of them are nice 3D
>games, and I'm still impressed with the speed of Feedback.
Yeah, but those are not REALLY 3D. Ofco
>>Oh peopel, oh peopel, life DOES make sense to me again!!
>>Why??? Yup, I've bought Final Fantasy VII (for PC)...
>p.s. FF7 is kinda nice yes...
...and everybody happy. Sorry, but I will disagree a little. 8-)
I continue with MSX for many reason. One of these is that WE HAVE NOT 3D
GAMES, a
>>>Oh peopel, oh peopel, life DOES make sense to me again!!
>>>Why??? Yup, I've bought Final Fantasy VII (for PC)...
>>p.s. FF7 is kinda nice yes...
>
>...and everybody happy. Sorry, but I will disagree a little. 8-)
>
>I continue with MSX for many reason. One of these is that WE HAVE NOT 3D
>
On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Randy Simons wrote:
> -Original Message-
> >>>Oh peopel, oh peopel, life DOES make sense to me again!!
> >>>Why??? Yup, I've bought Final Fantasy VII (for PC)...
> >>p.s. FF7 is kinda nice yes...
> >
> >...and everybody happy. Sorry, but I will disagree a little.
>That would be true when the goal of the game was to be fun to play it. But
>in the PC world this is hardly ever the case.
>An example: I know someone from a PC software company and he made a
>incredibly cool 2D shoot'em-up. But the publishers didn't want to release
>it because they were afraid 2D
At 15:31 23/08/98 +0200, you wrote:
>>PS: Peace and 2D for everybody! ;-)
>
>Hm... next step: making 4D games on a 3D display device...
As we are used to talk in Linear Algebra classes: We can't see any
vector space which dimension is above three... Of course, when you have
drunk alcohol
>>Hm... next step: making 4D games on a 3D display device...
>
>As we are used to talk in Linear Algebra classes: We can't see any
>vector space which dimension is above three... Of course, when you have
>drunk alcohol enough, you can see any vector space!
Well... if we can represent 3D
>How to draw a 4D cube in 3D:
>- Draw a 3D cube with corners ABCD EFGH
>- Draw a smaller 3D cube with corners A'B'C'D'E'F'G'H' inside the first
>- Draw lines between A and A', B and B' etc.
>- voila
I knew the method you explain. In the university, a professor explained this
method when talking
>Well... if we can represent 3D objects into a 2D device, the same can be
>done by 4D objects into a 3D device. The problem is that we identify those
>3D objecte (on a 2D device), but we have never seen a 4D object... wow...
How to draw a 4D cube in 3D:
- Draw a 3D cube with corners ABCD EFGH
-
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