Hi,
>I'm sure a good programmer knows how his trick works, but I think this
>"hiding" is especially important for demo-programmers (sorry Mark :) but
>I think that's the way it is) because a demo is usually nothing more than
>a technical trick.
Absolutely true...
> That's what you're selling, a
On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:01:56 -0200, Leonard Silva de
Oliveira wrote:
> Ohter thing Why you want to hide your VDP handling
>routines ?
>
> I just don´t know why the good programmers don´t want to
> show how to do that incredible VDP tricks to the beginer
> proggramers
> I´m sure
:) sometimes
> > Ohter thing Why you want to hide your VDP handling routines ?
> > I just don´t know why the good programmers don´t want to show how to do
> > that incredible VDP tricks to the beginer proggramers
>
> Ah, a good magician never gives away his tricks ;-)
> Another thi
At 04:19 PM 9/30/98 +0200, you wrote:
>I'm sure a good programmer knows how his trick works, but I think this
>"hiding" is especially important for demo-programmers (sorry Mark :) but
>I think that's the way it is) because a demo is usually nothing more than
>a technical trick. That's what you're
ot true. It is just a lack of imagination, if
you can't get new ideas. (In that case you could try a bottle of vodka,
that can help pretty much of designing new effects.) :-)
If someone can fiqure out, how this trick part was made by using
PAUSE-key, it does not make it any worse. If this guy
::) sometimes
:
:> > Ohter thing Why you want to hide your VDP handling routines ?
:> > I just don´t know why the good programmers don´t want to show how to do
:> > that incredible VDP tricks to the beginer proggramers
:>
:> Ah, a good magician never gives away his tricks ;-)
:> Anot
:That's why demo groups usually have an expert for every task. Only Mark can
:do everything (code, gfx, music) ;).
Mark who???
Anyway, you're forgetting Cas Cremers.
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At 02:07 PM 10/1/98 +0300, you wrote:
>Usually is right word, and I agree, but good demo effect is not just a
>trick. Good demo effect is :
>
>Really good idea, nice trick and cool graphics all together.
And don't forget music [*]. A demo with well synchronized music is much
better than one that
> > We (Mayhem) used a custom BIOS in RAM, but still the PAUSE key worked!
>
> Of course the PAUSE key worked!!! This key is hardware implemented! I saw
> it in a Panasonic FSA1WSX (MSX2+) and the PAUSE key access a circuit that
> controls the clock flow. But this demands
wanted to, because pressing PAUSE gave away all our line interrupt tricks.
> >
> >Select RAM to addresses 0-#3FFF and put RETI command to #38. I bet you
> >don't have probblems after that. (Atleast, if you don't try to use BIOS
> >commands.)
>
> We (Mayhem) u
>Of course the PAUSE key worked!!! This key is hardware implemented! I saw
>it in a Panasonic FSA1WSX (MSX2+) and the PAUSE key access a circuit that
>controls the clock flow. But this demands a special refresh circuit, which
>I couldn't found, but I know this has to exist.
A
x27;t try to use BIOS
> > >commands.)
> >
> > We (Mayhem) used a custom BIOS in RAM, but still the PAUSE key worked!
>
> Of course the PAUSE key worked!!! This key is hardware implemented! I saw
> it in a Panasonic FSA1WSX (MSX2+) and the PAUSE key access a circuit tha
On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Of course the PAUSE key worked!!! This key is hardware implemented! I saw
> > it in a Panasonic FSA1WSX (MSX2+) and the PAUSE key access a circuit that
> > controls the clock flow. But this demands a special refresh circuit, wh
Dal Poz,
> Anyway, are there others MSX that have this PAUSE key, except FSA1ST and
> FSA1GT (both TURBO-R)?
Some japanese MSX models has gadgets like it. I believe that MSX2+ from
SONY and SANYO has PAUSE keys, but I don't know if it uses the same
conecpt/idea/circuit.
. So it should be able to catch the pause-key. But
anyway, I already knew that the pause-key couldn't be catched on a MSX2+ but
that it could be catched on a turboR... However, I didn't know it couldn't
be catched in Z80-mode.
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> Ohter thing Why you want to hide your VDP handling routines ?
> I just don´t know why the good programmers don´t want to show how to do
> that incredible VDP tricks to the beginer proggramers
Ah, a good magician never gives away his tricks ;-)
Another thing may be that the code to get
> complete control over the machine. The complication lies within the
> following: in R800 mode the PAUSE key does NOT work, but in Z80 mode
> the PAUSE key DOES work. So while the R800 mode hints at a software
> implementation of the PAUSE key, the Z80 mode on the contrary hints
> at
Alwin Henseler wrote:
>>Giovanni dos Reis Nunes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I know that SONY HB FS-XDJ (MSX2+) and FS-XmkII (MSX2) has a speed
>> controler. I call it "fMSX for MSX" :) Using it you can reduce the
>> clock speed (ideal for games).
>
>I might be mistaken, but aren't you talking
of everything we heard so far.
>
> So how does this pause key work on the Turbo-R?
It all makes sense now...
The Z80 of the turbo R is part of the MSX engine. That explains the
hardware pause option in Z80 mode.
The R800 is a seperate IC, so the engine pause hardware doesn't
direc
complication lies within the following: in R800 mode the
> PAUSE key does NOT work, but in Z80 mode the PAUSE key DOES work. So while the
> R800 mode hints at a software implementation of the PAUSE key, the Z80 mode on
> the contrary hints at a hardware implementation...
> So disabl
] >Of course the PAUSE key worked!!! This key is hardware implemented! I saw
] >it in a Panasonic FSA1WSX (MSX2+) and the PAUSE key access a circuit that
] >controls the clock flow. But this demands a special refresh circuit, which
] >I couldn't found, but I know this has to exi
] directly affect it. So the turbo R designers had to find a different
] way of implementing the pause key in R800 mode, and they chose to do
] it in software.
They could also have come up with a hardware solution. But luckily for us,
they came with a software solution instead :-)
Kind
] Are you sure that there's no way to enable the PAUSE key in R800 mode?
] Supposing hardware implementation, it's possible that there's a bit in a
] certain port that enables or disables the PAUSE key in R800 mode.
In R800 mode, the pause button is connected to a set/reset flipflo
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