RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Beth
By that very comment Argyle Park is then indeed a project. I would be more than happy to give you more indepth information, since I hadn't yet covered that one. However, once more, I think you will find a lot in the mailing list archives that will clarify some of the others. In truth, I don't

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Beth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cristov Russell Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:03 AM To: 'MusicBrainz style discussion' Subject: RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project Secondly, in reference to your comment about what people

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Cristov Russell
I skimmed some of the emails but in actuality I don't think it would make much difference since I disagree with the general concept altogether. IMO the approach is wrong. Can you point out what in my comments would have been argued by the thread? Cristov (wolfsong) If you had

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Cristov Russell
By that very comment Argyle Park is then indeed a project. I would be more than happy to give you more indepth information, since I hadn't yet covered that one. Ummm are you saying the name of the release is Argyle Park? I'm not familiar with this. Cristov (wolfsong)

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
well, try google then. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Argyle+Parkand the release http://www.discogs.com/release/257385 On 7/5/06, Cristov Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By that very comment Argyle Park is then indeed a project. I would be more than happy to give you more indepth information,

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Cristov Russell
In that case, you completely misread my comment. I said the term project describes the release not the artists. Cristov (wolfsong) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefan KestenholzSent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:55 AMTo: MusicBrainz style

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Cristov Russell
Perhaps you should reread my email because I have stated the reasons why I do not like the idea. Also, I did not mention artist attributes, I mentioned attributes for groups specifically. Cristov (wolfsong) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
well, its an album, official released by a project with founder(s) x, yand participants(s) a, b, c On 7/5/06, Cristov Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case, you completely misread my comment. I said the term project describes the release not the artists.

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Beth
Because I perhaps misread the email, trying again. To state why your argument cristov in my opinion is invalid and you should read the mailing list instead of going mainly off the wiki and skimming the mailing list for your thoughts to be supported (which is what It feels as if you did.)

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Cristov Russell
Again, you're not reading what I said "To me, a project is a release by a group of artists; not the artists themselves". What does that haveto do with whether it's "album, official"or it's founders? I'm saying the resulting work is the project. Cristov (wolfsong) From: [EMAIL

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
Second, from an interface stand point what we have today with Person orGroup should remain as is. What people are describing as collaborations and projects are still groups (more than one person) so these terms really arejust group descriptors. If we want them then we should have group

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Lauri Watts
On 7/5/06, Beth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_project A wiki page on Artist/musician projects. I note none of those commented on in this discussion seemed to be on it. Maybe all of our ideas on what makes a project is flawed? I stayed out of this discussion

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
in that case, maybe we should consider about introducing Project, and rename the Group type to Band as well, to get rid of the ambiguous part of the Group type. Is that a validdeduction? I think its fair to try classifying artist types into Projects and Bands(Groups), because again this

RE: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Beth
If you change group to band, then you need to look at adding artist type collaboration, or am I incorrect in this conclusion? I do like the thought of record label, producer and such, but I imagine that will gain a lot of argument, and perhaps its not knowing any personally, but again

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
yes, actually i'd like if we added Collaboration as well as changed Group to Band actually. i think it would be useful duplication of data to have Type: Collaboration in the artist box. Humans are visual beings, and looking at the relationships is a machine-like way to figure out if its a

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Chris Bransden
On 05/07/06, Lauri Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I agree more or less with Don (at least, if I understood him right). If the choices were Person or Band then I could see a case for covering things which are more than one person, but are not a band. The choices are Person and Group

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Lauri Watts
On 7/5/06, Stefan Kestenholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, actually i'd like if we added Collaboration as well as changed Group to Band actually. i think it would be useful duplication of data to have Type: Collaboration in the artist box. Humans are visual beings, and looking at the

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
On 7/5/06, Stefan Kestenholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, actually i'd like if we added Collaboration as well as changed Group to Band actually. I'm not sure what the exact meaning of the word band; English is not my native language. Band works quite well for rock groups and such, but what

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New Artist Type: Project

2006-07-05 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
On 7/5/06, Bogdan Butnaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Band works quite well for rock groups and such, but what happens withsymphonic orchestras and string quartets and choirs and such? Is 'band' general enough for those? good point, browsing wikipedia for definitions of artist types turned up