Re: [mb-style] DVD in album titles

2006-02-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
mud crow wrote: I think you are all looking at this from the wrong angle. If I own a DVD I can simply type the track details into MB, no need to rip anything or copy anything, exactly as I do with vinyl or tape. Or I could enter more precise data and rip the dvd and add times to the tracks as

[mb-style] chorus master / orchestra types

2006-02-17 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hello, I've found a few more problems with the current AR types. (Again) :) First of them is that I think link phrases "has {additional} chorus master performed by" and "performed {additional} chorus master" sound a bit odd and also I'm not sure why it's a subtype of the "performer" type. IMO,

Re: [mb-style] chorus master / orchestra types

2006-02-17 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Don Redman wrote: I do not think I understood the first one, and the second one seems absolutely obvious to me. IIRC it was even proposed before. I don't know, maybe it's just a problem of my English and I just don't know what exactly "chorus master" is. But I think "chorus master" == "choir c

Re: [mb-style] What does primary artist really mean?

2006-02-28 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Cristov Russell wrote: I'm not arguing that someone can be a guest on an entire release [1] but I would still say by definition this was a collaboration not a guest appearance. k.d. land was involved in the choice of songs and arrangements which fits the definition of collaboration. It's still

Re: [mb-style] request: "cover of" album-album relationship

2006-03-04 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Brian Gurtler wrote: "cover of" should be an option and should go under the existing sub group "covers or other versions" Charlie Hunter Quartet - Natty Dread [1] _is a cover of_ Bob Marley - Natty Dread [2] I've opened a ticket for this at http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1097 http://w

Re: [mb-style] New AR Type: Remastered by

2006-03-04 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Don Redman wrote: Now I, too, have a request for a new AR type. Artist "remastered" Album/Track Album/Track "remasterd by" Artist I suppose this shuld be either a sibling or a child of mastered. Comments, anyone? What about an attribute? "was {additional:additionally} {remastered:re}mastere

Re: [mb-style] New AR Type: Remastered by

2006-03-05 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Don Redman wrote: Or (recalling my meta-thoughts) are these the wrong questions? Should I just try it out on test on monday, ask you to play around with it, request a veto and then move it over to the main server? This testing of new AR types, IMHO, doesn't work. There is not too much people

Re: [mb-style] request: "cover of" album-album relationship

2006-03-05 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Don Redman wrote: But let me gather what seems to work and what does not: Brians first post can be seen as a "request for comment". You (Fuchs) have suggested that the requestor should wait a week for comments. Then Brian could issue a "request for veto", wait another 24 or 48 hours (whatever s

Re: [mb-style] request: "cover of" album-album relationship

2006-03-05 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
derGraph wrote: The only reason why we didn't add an album-album version of the cover type was, that we couldn't come up with an example. I guess I should have been here last year... http://musicbrainz.org/album/50b60c72-e11b-42f0-ac62-2798b8529048.html Needless to name the original album. ;-

Re: [mb-style] Instrument/vocal member of on TEST

2006-03-14 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Simon Reinhardt wrote: Misunderstood. :) I mean: how would you realize that with AR? Can you give me the definition how to implement that with one relationship? With a little bit of Perl code. ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@list

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Ok, I've added this and http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1228 to the instrument tree. Some people will probably disagree, so please tell me, I'll ask someone to remove my link editor privs and won't do it anymore. Lukas Brian Gurtler wrote: yes it's true. i am not making this stuff u

Re: [mb-style] Evil overlord speaks on DVDs (was: WTF DVD?)

2006-04-10 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Robert Kaye wrote: > 1. We will store DVDs in MusicBrainz and we'll start doing this by using > the existing album structure. So, now people can add DVDs to the database. Perhaps it's time to update/change http://musicbrainz.org/style.html#styleguide-data-track (and corresponding http://wiki.music

Re: [mb-style] Video on data tracks vs. DVD-Video vs. VCD vs. SACD vs. DVD-Audio

2006-04-11 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Alexander Dupuy wrote: > No, I don't think we want to do this. Video "tracks" on audio CDs can > be stored in a number of different, incompatible, and not widely used > formats. However, in all of these formats, one common factor is that if > you put the disc into an audio CD player, the extra tr

[mb-style] [RFV] MySpace AR request

2006-04-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
I think this AR type proposal is quite obvious and can be "fast-tracked". Anyone against adding it? Beth wrote: > With MySpace's growing popularity. There are some artists now using it in > conjunction with their official websites, and even some using it as their > website. > > Therefore I felt i

Re: [mb-style] Video on data tracks vs. DVD-Video vs. VCD vs. SACD vs. DVD-Audio

2006-04-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
derGraph wrote: > IMO, it is. The "data tracks" in most cases actually are not extra > tracks, but extra sessions. This is what I don't like. In case of DVDs we are talking about track listings printed on the cover. In case of CDs it's about track&sessions. > Also, if all you want to do is to pro

Re: [mb-style] change 'Recording Engineer' to 'Recorded By'

2006-04-16 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Chris Bransden wrote: > requesting vetos on this one. anyone? > No veto within four days => changed! ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style

[mb-style] background vocal -> backing vocal

2006-04-16 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, mo has changed "background vocal" AR attribute to "backing vocal" [1]. I personally think this is wrong, and as there was no discussion about this I've changed it back. So I'm asking for opinions, should it stay as "background vocal" or was mo's change correct? [1] http://musicbrainz.org/sho

[mb-style] Re: [RFV] MySpace AR request

2006-04-17 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Lukáš Lalinský wrote: > I think this AR type proposal is quite obvious and can be "fast-tracked". > Anyone > against adding it? Okay, 48 hours and no veto => added. Can somebody (don, shepard, zout?) post a short announcument on blog.mb.org, please? I think blog is bett

[mb-style] proper capitalization in AR types

2006-04-21 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, I want to do a few trivial changes to AR type phrases, but I'd like to check here if nobody disagrees. * has amazon asin -> has Amazon ASIN * from amazon belongs to -> from Amazon belongs to * has a wikipedia page at -> has a Wikipedia page at * is a wikipedia page for -> is a Wikipedia page

Re: [mb-style] Re: [RFV] MySpace AR request

2006-04-22 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
dj empirical wrote: > is it possible to auto-detect that AR once the URL is pasted in, as > the others (ASIN, Discogs, etc.) do? Done. Will be included in the next server release. ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.or

Re: [mb-style] very early composers

2006-04-25 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Nathan Noble wrote: > If this is the wrong place for this, feel free to kick > me in the right direction... I think is more a technical server issue, so http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/newticket ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.mus

Re: [mb-style] missing accents on Jarre's songs

2006-06-01 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: >> I'm surprised that your not asking where his hyphen >> is. that missing bugs me. > > Which hyphen? > Jarre's official name is "Jean-Michel Jarre". However on most of early and ALL current releases and official materials it's written as "Jean Michel Jarre" (without h

Re: [mb-style] missing accents on Jarre's songs

2006-06-01 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > What I would like is that a MB user who has these albums takes the > time to open his cd and look how it is written inside (hoping it is > written somewhere in lower case)... Thus we would be sure. Is any Jean > Michel Jarre fan reading this? > Yes, and as I said *eve

Re: [mb-style] "(album version)"

2006-06-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On 6/20/06, Don Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Against doing it now: - SameTrack ARs will get entered much more frequently if the TaggerScript uses them. We will probably need a Style change in this area anyway. If Picard 0.8 comes out within a month, then would be two consecutive changes. (th

Re: [mb-style] RFV: IMDbRelationshipStyle

2006-06-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On 6/20/06, Jan van Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hereby request IMDbRelationshipStyle[1] to be made official. The content of this guideline is already widely applied. Why link only to the earliest release? l. ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list

Re: [mb-style] RFV: IMDbRelationshipStyle

2006-06-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On 6/20/06, Jan van Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/20/06, Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why link only to the earliest release? The listed rationale is "Reducing duplicated content/effort." Yep, I read that. But why? :) From database point of view,

Re: [mb-style] RFV: IMDbRelationshipStyle

2006-06-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On 6/20/06, Jan van Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To be honest; I didn't write that page, I just thought it was mature enough to be made official ;) Can I conclude you issued a veto? No, not yet. I know azertus is subscribed to mb-style, so I'm hoping he can explain the point #2 - "Reducing

Re: [mb-style] "(album version)"

2006-06-22 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Robert Kaye wrote: > Agreed 100%. If anyone needs any _more_ reason than that, I can put my > evil overlord hat on. Between TaggerScript becoming a reality and this > reasoning, there is no logical way to support the removal of (Album > version). Period. Can I take as a final decision and update t

Re: [mb-style] RFV: IMDbRelationshipStyle

2006-06-22 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Jan van Thiel wrote: > Hi, > > I hereby request IMDbRelationshipStyle[1] to be made official. The > content of this guideline is already widely applied. > > If you strongly oppose it, please post a veto. Ok, veto: Linking to only the earliest release makes no sense if we compare it to usage of

Re: [mb-style] Re: RFV: new AR 'Artist X wrote the liner notes for release Y'

2006-09-18 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Mangled wrote: > Ok... so... All went well I guess. > RFC, bug in trac, wiki page change (thanks Simon), RFV that is now 3 > days old quiet. > > Got the chocolate to bribe the link editor. > > Now... what do I do? > Do I need to summon a moose who will add the link? :D > Done. -Lukáš

Re: [mb-style] Re: RFV: new AR 'Artist X wrote the liner notes for release Y'

2006-09-18 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Mangled wrote: > ah heu... just a question... > > Is this really the right way round? Yes, now it is. I was trying to reverse the phrases for the album-artist one, but somehow I managed to reverse them two times. :) http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5609417 -Lukáš __

Re: [mb-style] Re: [mb-users] Featuring artist revisited...

2006-09-25 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Don Redman wrote: > All I want to say is that the FeaturingArtistStyle is guideline with a > long and winded history. You can start to change it, but please do not > do so by just setting up a conflicting editing practice. Do so using the > paths established in the MB community. And be prepared tha

[mb-style] Fwd: Purevolume URL Relationship Missing

2006-10-04 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
This was mistakenly posted only to Nabble, so forwarding it also here: http://www.nabble.com/Purevolume-URL-Relationship-Missing-tf2383447s2885.html -Lukáš ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbra

[mb-style] ARs for labels

2006-11-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, I'm working on adding support for labels/catalog numbers. Now that I have implemented adding ARs for labels, I started thinking about possible AR types we will need. I can think only of these two:. label--label: * parent label * is a parent label of * is a sublabel of of label--u

Re: [mb-style] ARs for labels

2006-11-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Olivier wrote / napísal(a): > Some more ideas: > > I - How will we deal with the concept of "Collections". > Some are not officially "sub-labels", or "divisions", but they may be > used extensively by the label as a "label name". > See for example what Fantasy did with its Original Jazz Classics

Re: [mb-style] ARs for labels

2006-11-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Lauri Watts wrote / napísal(a): > My comments: > > Some record labels have more than one parent at a time, this needs to > be a many to one. ARs are always many to many. ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http:

Re: [mb-style] ARs for labels

2006-11-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Olivier wrote / napísal(a): > I guess I forgot LabelSortName: will we have sortnames on labels? I've actually just removed it. Is it useful for labels? > Some "curiosity" questions: > - will we be able to list all releases for a given label? Yes, including subscribing to labels and getting noti

Re: [mb-style] ARs for labels

2006-11-04 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Don Redman wrote / napísal(a): > Just to be sure: Labels will be linked to Releases by a core > relationship, that is why you are not listing label--release ARs, right? You mean release events, right? Then yes. -Lukáš ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing lis

Re: [mb-style] ARs for labels

2006-11-08 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Age Bosma wrote / napísal(a): > Lukáš Lalinský wrote: >> >> Release even will contain: >> - date >> - country >> - label >> - cat# > > I might become too technical already but what did you have in mind for > the format? Are you plannin

[mb-style] AbbreviationStyle and [trad.], [anon.]

2006-11-13 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, is there some reason why are these "artist" names abbreviated? I think they should be renamed to [traditional] and [anonymous]. I actually wanted to just do it a non-autoedit, but mo conviced me to ask before doing it. :) -Lukáš ___ Musicbrainz-s

Re: [mb-style] AbbreviationStyle and [trad.], [anon.]

2006-11-13 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
azertus wrote / napísal(a): > P.S.: I suggest you don't look at the number of users using our format > :p [3] Off-topic, but... this is mostly caused by the fact that Last.fm now rejects anything that starts and ends with parentheses or brackets. There is no way to submit such tracks, AFAIK. __

Re: [mb-style] AbbreviationStyle and [trad.], [anon.]

2006-11-13 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
azertus wrote / napísal(a): > 2006/11/13, Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> azertus wrote / napísal(a): >> > P.S.: I suggest you don't look at the number of users using our format >> > :p [3] >> >> Off-topic, but... this is mostly caused b

[mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Music Editor

2007-01-23 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, I'd like to add a new AR type for music editors. Details are on http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicEditorRelationshipType Any comments? -Lukáš signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Mu

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Music Editor

2007-01-23 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-01-23 at 13:41 +0100, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > What does edited mean. How is it different from arranged? I guess it something between composing (but not the initial composing) and arranging (but not arranging of a final composition). A lot of soundtrack liner notes use this termin

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Music Editor

2007-01-23 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-01-23 at 13:51 +0100, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > > Ok. I suggest that someone who is reasonably sure of the definition > should state this in the wiki. Or else, we will have arrangements > stored as editings and editings stored as arrangements. Looks like I was wrong. But hey, we a

Re: [mb-style] Suggestion: Has Tribute Album AR

2007-01-31 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On St, 2007-01-31 at 05:44 -0800, drsaunde wrote: > I just entered a "tribute album" EP, and I know tribute album compilations > exits. Doesn't this phrase go against our current terminology? Shouldn't > the AR phrase be "has tribute release(s)"? You can simply replace album with release everyw

[mb-style] RFV: New AR Type: Music Editor

2007-03-02 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, any objections against adding this AR type I proposed some time ago? http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicEditorRelationshipType -Lukáš signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-

Re: [mb-style] Albums compiled by artists

2007-03-09 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2007-03-09 at 09:50 -0800, Kerensky97 wrote: [...] > Plus all the added bonus of not further cluttering Relationship lists, > Avoiding using VA as a dumping ground for anything that isn't completely by > 1 artist, and still leaving a pretty accurate description that the album was > organized

Re: [mb-style] Fwd: Purevolume URL Relationship Missing

2007-03-09 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Sorry for replying to this old thread, but needed a Purevolume AR type just now... On Št, 2006-10-12 at 15:22 -0400, Alexander Dupuy wrote: [...] > What about the missing indie911 URL relationship? And the ones for > "mp3.com or The Podsafe Music Network or garageband.com" (to quote your > mess

Re: [mb-style] RFV: New AR Type: Music Editor

2007-03-09 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2007-03-02 at 10:27 -0800, Kerensky97 wrote: > I still think "editor" is ambiguous enough to cause alot of confusion like I > mentioned in the RFC, even labels use it in different ways; but I guess it > could be solved if there's a really good definition of what specifically an > editor is i

Re: [mb-style] Fwd: Purevolume URL Relationship Missing

2007-03-10 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On So, 2007-03-10 at 15:35 -0500, Aaron Cooper wrote: > On 3/10/07, Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We already have an AR type for MySpace and the main argument for it was > > that it's big enough. I think Purevolume is big enough as well *and* > > it

[mb-style] RFV: Purevolume URL Relationship

2007-03-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On So, 2007-03-10 at 08:54 +0100, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: > We already have an AR type for MySpace and the main argument for it was > that it's big enough. I think Purevolume is big enough as well *and* > it's specialized to music. So, I'm proposing these changes: >

[mb-style] Re: ARs for labels

2007-03-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, there was an old thread about new AR types for labels, but no final decision have been made. Back then, Olivier created a great documentation [1], but there were also some additional requests ([2], [3], [4]), which are not documented yet. So, my question is, is anybody willing to make a summa

Re: [mb-style] Re: ARs for labels

2007-03-21 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On St, 2007-03-21 at 09:55 +0100, Olivier wrote: > Yes. > I'll take a look at the tickets and complete the missing doc + links > on the wiki. > I can also do a summary by mail. Thanks a lot! > What do you mean by "directly on the test server"? Editing the links? Yes, I thought it might be easier

Re: [mb-style] Re: ARs for labels

2007-03-23 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Št, 2007-03-22 at 17:29 +0100, Olivier wrote: > - the add of a new "format/media" field There is some discussion on: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2565 The current list of formats in on: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ReleaseFormat Is there any _important_ format (not subtypes like CD-enh

Re: [mb-style] Re: ARs for labels

2007-03-23 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2007-03-23 at 22:42 -0400, Rob Keeney wrote: > I know I'm showing my age here but Tape formats should include > reel-to-reel as there were many very nice recordings released in that > format back 'in the day' before cassette and 8-track. Also, I would > like to see more categories of 'Vi

Re: [mb-style] forthcoming albums and their tracks.

2007-03-29 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Št, 2007-03-29 at 20:57 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think there are two related questions, but please shout if I'm overlooking > something. > > 1) should forthcoming albums be allowed into the DB before their release date? > > 2) should individualy released tracks off of forthcoming a

[mb-style] Serbia & Montenegro

2007-03-30 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, I think there isn't much to discuss here, but I'm posting it to the mailing list instead of a private mail. Rob, can you please add Serbia and Montenegro to the list of countries? * Name: Serbia ISO code: RS * Name: Montenegro ISO code: ME and probably also rename "Serbia and Monten

[mb-style] Re: Serbia & Montenegro

2007-03-31 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
It seems there were a few more changes to ISO 3166, I think we should keep our list updated. The red rows in this table indicate the changes: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ReleaseCountry On Pi, 2007-03-30 at 18:58 +0200, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: > Hi, > > I think there isn't much t

Re: [mb-style] Serbia & Montenegro

2007-03-31 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On So, 2007-03-31 at 08:34 -0700, Alexander Dupuy wrote: > I don't see much point in changing St. to Saint in St. Helena and St. Pierre > and Miquelon, but don't really care either way. The official ISO list uses 'Saint', so I though it would be a good idea to change it. > I would omit the month

[mb-style] RFC: Move PublisherRelationshipType from Artist to Label

2007-04-04 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Aaron's email on mb-users reminded me of something... I think the "publisher" AR [1] should be moved from "artist" to "label". It isn't exactly the same as a record label, but we use labels also for holdings or distributors, it should be definitely closer to reality than using artist entries for t

[mb-style] RFC: "has a blog at" AR

2007-04-08 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Oops, I mistakenly sent this to myself, not to mb-style... :/ -- Preposlaná správa -- Od: Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Komu: Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Predmet: RFC: "has a blog at" AR Dátum: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:44:51 +0200 No veto in more than two

[mb-style] RFV: "has a blog at" AR

2007-05-02 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-05-01 at 23:12 +0200, Don Redman wrote: > This proposal from Luks has not gotten any response. Maybe because it is > so trivial and clear? > > Please clarify: Do you want to add this as a subtype to "community page" > or as a sibling to it. I'd say a sibling, but the placement rea

[mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Programming

2007-05-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi, I think having "programming" under instruments is, well... not so obvious. Programming is more a production task, than performance. Plus, it would be nice to have a way to specify _what_ did the person program. So, I propose that we remove programming from the instrument list add a separate AR

[mb-style] RFC: Conductor AR Changes

2007-05-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
I'd like to solve two issues at once here: 1. Mainly on non-classical releases does ' conducted ' sound a little strange, because e.g. the artist conducted only a string orchestra which is only used in some parts of the song. 2. Wording of the chorus master AR is _ugly_ - "performed chorus ma

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Programming

2007-05-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Št, 2007-05-03 at 09:25 +0200, Lauri Watts wrote: > For electronic music and it's subgenres, programming is as much an > instrument as anything else, and is an integral part of the > performance, even live. I've been to more than one concert where > there's a singer and two guys with laptops on

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Conductor AR Changes

2007-05-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Št, 2007-05-03 at 10:32 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > Classical users are so used to "chorus master" that we might be a > little annoyed at losing this term, OTOH, "x conducted choir on y" (or > is it "choirs"?) seems better than "x performed chorus master on y" to > me! > > Can you expl

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Programming

2007-05-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Št, 2007-05-03 at 10:36 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > 2007/5/3, Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Plus, drum programming also includes producing drum loops, > which I > really can't imaging doing as a part of performance. > Either

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Conductor AR Changes

2007-05-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Št, 2007-05-03 at 10:50 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > Ha! As usual, my question was not precise enough. As I said, I like > "conducted choir" better than "performed chorus master". > > In your first post, you spoke of a "first idea" then of "another > idea". I was trying to understand wha

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Conductor AR Changes

2007-05-03 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Št, 2007-05-03 at 19:13 +0200, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: > ... and it's backward compatible obviously. Er, it's *not* backward compatible. -Lukáš signature.asc Description: Toto je digitálne podpísaná časť správy ___ Musicbrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Programming

2007-05-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Ok, here is the complete version of the proposal: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ProgrammingRelationshipType Any comments about it? If not, I'd like to issue a RFV and (hopefully) add it. :) -Lukas signature.asc Description: Toto je digitálne podpísaná časť správy _

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Type: Programming

2007-05-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-05-15 at 19:13 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > How would a Programming AR appear with an instrument? I mean, what > would be the link phrases? > {instrument:has %|was} {additional:additionally} programmed by {additional:additionally} programmed {instrument:% on} -Lukas signatu

Re: [mb-style] RFV: New AR Type: Edited By

2007-05-16 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On St, 2007-05-16 at 14:37 +0200, Age Bosma wrote: > Judged by the descriptions on both pages [1][2] and in particular the > part 'It can also involve streamlining a longer track to around the 3 > minute mark in order to make it suitable for radio play (a "radio > edit")' I'd say there isn't rea

[mb-style] RFC: PublisherRelationshipType for labels + new label type "Publisher"

2007-05-16 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
I sent here a mail about moving PublisherRelationshipType from artist to labels some time ago, but since then I noticed at least one case where having this AR for artist still makes sense. For example release Aero by Jean Michel Jarre: - tracks 2,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,13,14,15 published by Jean Michel

[mb-style] RFV: New AR Type: Programming

2007-05-16 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Ok, so, I'd like to issue a RFV: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ProgrammingRelationshipType * {instrument:has %|was} {additional:additionally} programmed by * {additional:additionally} programmed {instrument:% on} If nobody will veto it, I'll add the new AR this weekend and start editing the exi

Re: [mb-style] "Composed by" AR

2007-05-19 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2007-05-18 at 20:13 +0100, Cadalach wrote: > Hi folks, > > Here's, hopefully, a quick question that cropped up again today: > Thinking mainly about classical composers, is it really worth adding a > "composed by" AR to record that, say, JS Bach composed his stuff? > > On the one hand, it s

Re: [mb-style] RFV: New AR Type: Programming

2007-05-19 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Added and the wiki page is updated. If somebody is bored - http://195.168.234.26:5580/~lukas/tmp/programming-ar.php :) Lukáš Lalinský wrote: > Ok, so, I'd like to issue a RFV: > > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ProgrammingRelationshipType > > * {instrument:has %|was} {add

Re: [mb-style] RFV: New AR Type: Edited By

2007-05-19 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Done. Would be nice to have a separate wiki page with some example for it, though. On So, 2007-05-19 at 19:27 +0100, Chris B wrote: > ok - i'd say this veto period has passed now. could someone with The > Power please add this relationship? I'll remove the 'proposed' parts > in the wiki once it's

[mb-style] RFV: PublisherRelationshipType for labels + new label type "Publisher"

2007-06-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
I somehow forgot about this one, but now I needed the AR again. So... RFV? On St, 2007-05-16 at 17:23 +0200, Lauri Watts wrote: > On 5/16/07, Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I sent here a mail about moving PublisherRelationshipType from artist to > > labels som

Re: [mb-style] RFV: PublisherRelationshipType for labels + new label type "Publisher"

2007-06-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2007-06-15 at 12:56 +0200, Lauri Watts wrote: > On 6/15/07, Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I somehow forgot about this one, but now I needed the AR again. So... > > RFV? > > Well, nobody vetoed it last time, so it's technically already passed

Re: [mb-style] RFV: PublisherRelationshipType for labels + new label type "Publisher"

2007-06-18 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Ok, part 1 (ARs) is done, the new label type will be added when Robert updates the server from SVN. On Pi, 2007-06-15 at 12:56 +0200, Lauri Watts wrote: > On 6/15/07, Lukáš Lalinský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I somehow forgot about this one, but now I needed the AR again

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change Default Data Quality

2007-06-19 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-06-19 at 22:40 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > 2007/6/19, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > BTW, Brian, would you know what percentage of edits are accepted > without any > > > vote? > > > > No idea. However, your question did inspire me to go do some > further research

Re: [mb-style] SoundtrackStyle

2007-08-06 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
(This is a combined reply for this mail and http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7299704) On Po, 2007-08-06 at 04:04 -0400, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > Anyone have any thoughts? First of all I have to say that I don't like the idea to treat soundtrack differently. Soundtrack on it's own is not

Re: [mb-style] SoundtrackStyle

2007-08-13 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-08-07 at 23:36 +0100, Barry Platt wrote: > Contrary to the opinion of some others in this discussion so far, I feel > that there *is* a need for a document with official status to replace > SoundtrackStyle. Not as a specific style in its own right, but as a > pointer to the appropriate

[mb-style] RFC: new vocal type - "rap"

2007-08-15 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Hi all, this was discussed two weeks ago on mb-users, I think it's time to actually do it. Currently we have four top-level types of vocals: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/relationships/link_attrs.html I propose we add new option "Rap" under "Other". I think in it's common enough to have two voca

[mb-style] RFV: new vocal type - "rap"

2007-08-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Okay, any vetoes? On St, 2007-08-15 at 21:21 +0200, Kuno Woudt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:50:16PM +0200, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > this was discussed two weeks ago on mb-users, I think it's time to > > actually do it. > > > &g

Re: [mb-style] RFV: new vocal type - "rap"

2007-08-21 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-08-21 at 12:06 +0100, Chris B wrote: > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AdvancedVocalTree - see my discussion > there. i just did a search of my emails and i think i've disagreed > with this proposal on 4 seperate occasions :) sorry i didn't > participate in RFC - i figured everyone knew my

Re: [mb-style] RFV: new vocal type - "rap"

2007-08-21 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-08-21 at 15:48 +0100, Chris B wrote: > It might be obvious to people who know rap/hip-hop music > scene. And even > if you do, you can have rappers signing and non-rapper > vocalists > rapping. With this addition, it would be clear who did what.

[mb-style] Re: RFV: "has a blog at" AR

2007-08-21 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
No veto in almost 4 months -> added. Thanks for your cooperation. :) On Št, 2007-05-03 at 08:57 +0200, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: > On Ut, 2007-05-01 at 23:12 +0200, Don Redman wrote: > > This proposal from Luks has not gotten any response. Maybe because it is > > so

Re: [mb-style] RFC: IMDb AR change

2007-09-05 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On St, 2007-09-05 at 00:32 -0400, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > I'm not sure what I would suggest using for the current IMDB, AR, but > for the Wiki one, what about "has a wiki/wikia page at" rather than > "has a Wikipedia page at"? Wikipedia is a well-known encyclopedia, "wiki" is just a technology

Re: [mb-style] OGLA is no more, suggesting the AR be deactivated, if not remove

2007-09-22 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On So, 2007-09-22 at 05:36 -0400, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > Considering that 17 days have now passed since my last email on this > topic, I am now formally requesting a RFV on this proposal that the > OGLA AR be removed, as the site itself is no longer in existance. Please add RFV to the subject

Re: [mb-style] At which level do we enter AR's

2007-11-02 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2007-11-02 at 11:22 +0100, Bram van Dijk wrote: > But anyway, I already changed the vocal credit to an album level one > especially because of something zout said in the discussion: "the > design of the website is the limitation here, not the information". > And I do agree that we shouldn't

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add AR "has wiki(a) page at"

2007-11-16 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2007-11-16 at 17:27 -0500, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > One of two AR proposals going out today. :) > > This one's simple enough I didn't think it needed a wiki listing. If > anyone thinks otherwise, though, I can create one for the proposal. > > Change: Add a new AR: "Has wiki(a) page at"

Re: [mb-style] RFC: dialogue style

2007-11-20 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ut, 2007-11-20 at 06:20 -0500, Brian Schweitzer wrote: [...] > Perhaps luks can shed some light on what the internal variable for > vocal performance ARs ought to be? I can, but not on mb-style, because when I see that somebody is using Picard or any other tagging tool as a reason/excuse to cha

Re: [mb-style] "is the same track as"?

2007-11-25 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ne, 2007-11-25 at 12:52 -0500, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > > And yes, I do think we can use these even if the release date is the > > same -- the "earliest release" thing is just a trick to avoid link > > clusters, so arbitrarily selecting a "canonical" first among those > > released on the same

Re: [mb-style] [RFC] vocal arranger AR

2007-12-30 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Ne, 2007-12-30 at 20:28 +0800, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > Request for comment on the addition of vocal arranger AR as per > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ArrangerRelationshipType : > > "With the VocalRelationshipAttribute you can specify for which vocal > the person did the arrangement." > > I

Re: [mb-style] Composition/Performer/Production ARs at Release or Track level?

2008-01-02 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On St, 2008-01-02 at 09:44 -0500, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > Once everything is said and done, I will suggest also that I can, with > FauxFaux's help getting the data (and a lot of time to process them > all into the database), use my script to "devolve" release level ARs > down to track-level ARs,

Re: [mb-style] What real-world entity does a Track represent?

2008-01-18 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2008-01-18 at 07:46 +0100, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > Please, IMO a track should be a track. You know, those chunks of > music which cd players number so conveniently while playing them and > which are usually listed on the back of the sleeves :-) If we need > another (more or less relate

Re: [mb-style] What real-world entity does a Track represent?

2008-01-18 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On Pi, 2008-01-18 at 10:36 +0100, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > What about "audio track" or "master track" instead of just "track"? > Once again, if we use common or ambiguous terms for technical/abstract > concepts, we confuse users and potentially even developers. It's not technical or abstract

Re: [mb-style] minder: decision to add "Parody" attribute to Cover AR type

2008-02-06 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
On St, 2008-02-06 at 04:26 -0800, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > Boy, it's nice to have a http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/report/8 style issues > list . > > http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3424 Ticket #3424 , plus a careful > reading of the mb-style archive, tells us that a proposal was made to create > a

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