[mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-08 Thread monxton
I'd like some clarification please, about Duos and their representation in NGS. I do a lot of editing of traditional folk music, and in this world there are many duos. It's always been something of an exercise of judgement to decide which to enter as collaborations and which as groups, but I tr

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-08 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:16 PM, monxton wrote: > I'd like some clarification please, about Duos and their representation > in NGS. > > I do a lot of editing of traditional folk music, and in this world there > are many duos. It's always been something of an exercise of judgement to > decide which

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-09 Thread Alex Mauer
On 06/08/2011 09:16 AM, monxton wrote: > "This (collaboration) relationship type is only intended for short-term > projects consisting of independent artists, who move on after the > collaboration is finished. If the target artist was not this type of > project, then Member Of Band Relationship

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-09 Thread monxton
On 09/06/2011 16:35, Alex Mauer wrote: > On 06/08/2011 09:16 AM, monxton wrote: >> "This (collaboration) relationship type is only intended for short-term >> projects consisting of independent artists, who move on after the >> collaboration is finished. If the target artist was not this type of >>

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-09 Thread Nikki
monxton wrote: > You'll have noted Nikki's response where he says that the distinction > between collaboration and member-of-band has not changed with NGS. > Short-term or one-off projects are collaborations. I'm not the same person as Nicolás. ;) Nikki

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread Alex Mauer
On 6/9/2011 10:57 PM, monxton wrote: > Now I know nothing about metal, but I don't see why you say a short term > collaboration between Motorhead and Girlschool would not be a good > example of a collaboration. I wouldn't; it absolutely *is* a collaboration. I'm not talking about collaboration r

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread monxton
On 10/06/2011 05:08, Nikki wrote: > monxton wrote: >> You'll have noted Nikki's response where he says that the distinction >> between collaboration and member-of-band has not changed with NGS. >> Short-term or one-off projects are collaborations. > > I'm not the same person as Nicolás. ;) Excuse

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, monxton wrote: > On 10/06/2011 05:08, Nikki wrote: >> monxton wrote: >>> You'll have noted Nikki's response where he says that the distinction >>> between collaboration and member-of-band has not changed with NGS. >>> Short-term or one-off projects are collaborati

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread monxton
On 10/06/2011 08:24, Alex Mauer wrote: > I'm not talking about collaboration relationships here, OK. Look in the corner of the room. See that big grey thing with the flappy ears? > I'm talking about situations where it is appropriate to > use artist credits instead of creating separate artists

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread Alex Mauer
On 06/10/2011 11:38 AM, monxton wrote: > Now we have NGS, which is the happy state towards which the stopgap was > put in place. So, if all the editors did the right thing, then the > groups joined by a collaboration relationship should be precisely those > to be split using ARs, and those by a

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread monxton
I'm done with this thread unless another editor has new points to make. If you're still here, thanks for reading so far. ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrai

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread Nikki
monxton wrote: > Now we have NGS, which is the happy state towards which the stopgap was > put in place. So, if all the editors did the right thing, then the > groups joined by a collaboration relationship should be precisely those > to be split using ARs, and those by a member-of-band relation

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread Lemire, Sebastien
all this arguing over collaboration credits. Say we have a collaboration of Charles Aznavour and Frank Sinatra. Why can't the following artist credits: - Charles Aznavour - Frank Sinatra - Charles Aznavour & Frank Sinatra (if they've collaborated long enough or if it's clear enough from the album c

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-10 Thread Nikki
Lemire, Sebastien wrote: > all this arguing over collaboration credits. Say we have a collaboration of > Charles Aznavour and Frank Sinatra. Why can't the following artist credits: > - Charles Aznavour > - Frank Sinatra > - Charles Aznavour & Frank Sinatra (if they've collaborated long enough or >

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-11 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2011/6/11 Nikki > Lemire, Sebastien wrote: > > all this arguing over collaboration credits. Say we have a collaboration > of > > Charles Aznavour and Frank Sinatra. Why can't the following artist > credits: > > - Charles Aznavour > > - Frank Sinatra > > - Charles Aznavour & Frank Sinatra (if they

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-11 Thread monxton
On 11/06/2011 01:35, Nikki wrote: > The collaboration relationship is still needed in some cases - if the > collaboration has its own name. I suppose we could theoretically merge > it with the member relationship (removing the distinction between long > term projects and named short term projects)

Re: [mb-style] NGS and Duos

2011-06-11 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:35 PM, monxton wrote: > On 11/06/2011 01:35, Nikki wrote: > >> The collaboration relationship is still needed in some cases - if the >> collaboration has its own name. I suppose we could theoretically merge >> it with the member relationship (removing the distinction betw