[mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-12 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
Hello everyone! I don’t recall seeing this subject mentioned, but I wasn’t always along for the whole discussion on RFV2-294. I’ve been looking through Sortname Style and I don’t notice any specific mention of punctuation; there’s only the general rule about “stylized names”. So as far as I can t

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-12 Thread Paul C. Bryan
(' == ’) or limit the characters that should be used. Paul -Original Message- From: Bogdan Butnaru Reply-to: MusicBrainz Style Discussion To: MusicBrainz Subject: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:52:55 +0100 Hello everyon

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-12 Thread jacobbrett
n regards to apostrophes (’ preferred, ' acceptable). Paul C. Bryan-2 wrote: > > Paul > -Original Message- > From: Bogdan Butnaru > Reply-to: MusicBrainz Style Discussion > > To: MusicBrainz > Subject: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sor

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-12 Thread Nikki
In my opinion, it's a problem with the music player if it can't sort unicode characters properly and I would just use what's in the artist name. We already permit a huge range of characters (mainly accented ones) which would be problematic for something which doesn't know how to sort non-ASCII

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-12 Thread caller#6
Thoughts off the top of my head: 1. I’m generally in favour of changes that makes our guidelines less ambiguous. 2. I’m of the opinion that apostrophes used with personal names should be removed in sort names. Example: “John Smith’s Awesome Orchestra” would ideally become (IMHO): “Smith, Joh

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-12 Thread SwissChris
While I don't see a real problem here (I never actually saw such a case, which – if necessary – can easily be resolved by one simple edit replacing the ASCII character in the sortname by the typographically correct one ;-) we do have a more acute problem with sortnames. Right now the guidelines ask

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-14 Thread Thomas Tholén
Problem. In swedish Å, Ä and Ö are not diacritics, thery are individual letters on their own right that are at the end of the alphabet. ...XYZÅÄÖ, ...xyzåäö (please note that they are not in the ascii order, which I believe is ÄÅÖ). In german however, they (ä and ö anyway) are considered diacritic

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-14 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:54, Thomas Tholén wrote: > Problem. In swedish Å, Ä and Ö are not diacritics, thery are > individual letters on their own right  that are at the end of the > alphabet. ...XYZÅÄÖ, ...xyzåäö (please note that they are not in the > ascii order, which I believe is ÄÅÖ). In g

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-22 Thread abarnert
Nikki-3 wrote: > In my opinion, it's a problem with the music player if it can't sort > unicode characters properly What does it mean to sort properly? See http://unicode.org/reports/tr10/ for the official Unicode answer. It's probably not what you think it is. And, more importantly, I doubt an

Re: [mb-style] Typographically-correct punctuation and sortname style

2011-01-23 Thread Nikki
abarnert wrote: > > Nikki-3 wrote: >> In my opinion, it's a problem with the music player if it can't sort >> unicode characters properly > What does it mean to sort properly? > > See http://unicode.org/reports/tr10/ for the official Unicode answer. It's > probably not what you think it is. And,