Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Metyl Methylius
Sorry, but this is closing eyes with such an answer, I dont have upload for that, my DSL connection has 256kbit uplink. Pulseaudio throughtput will be at leas 1387 Kbits. Thats 5 times more than I could afford. metyl On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Avuton Olrich avu...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2009/10/24 13:58, Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer stefr...@stefreak.de wrote: I had that idea yesterday for a server to server connection - if an mpd server could connect to another you could distribute your music on different computers - if you have your notebook and your pc for example and

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Avuton Olrich
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Metyl Methylius the.me...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, but this is closing eyes with such an answer, I dont have upload for that, my DSL connection has 256kbit uplink. Pulseaudio throughtput will be at leas 1387 Kbits. Thats 5 times more than I could afford. Then

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2009/10/26 14:47, Avuton Olrich avu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Metyl Methylius the.me...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, but this is closing eyes with such an answer, I dont have upload for that, my DSL connection has 256kbit uplink. Pulseaudio throughtput will be at

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Metyl Methylius
Yes, you're right the httpd will do that, but its also transcoding the data which is unnecessary and damages the quality. I'm looking to implement a way of streaming without reducing quality of record. metyl On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Avuton Olrich avu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 25,

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer
Hello :) I thought a bit further now and I think i'll design a very simple protocol (like music exchange protocol or smth. like this) which is for exchanging the music database and the raw music files (mp3, ogg, etc.). After designing the protocol a simple c library should be made to make it easy

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:15:07 +0100 Max Kellermann m...@duempel.org wrote: The standard MPD protocol is good enough for providing read-only access to the database. If it is not, extend it. Yes that's correct, the MPD protocol would be very good for doing that. This was my initial idea. If it

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2009/10/26 16:35, Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer stefr...@stefreak.de wrote: But if MPD will not accept a change to it's protocol and/or it's source i think a fork is not the best way. Then i would design an own protocol. You're free to do so. Good luck with your fork. - most protocols are

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:37:46 + Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote: There is already daap, and there are standalone daap servers, perhaps mpd could act as a daap client rather than inventing a new protocol. daap is proprietary and i think we don't want to get issues with apple because of

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Matt Wheeler
2009/10/26 Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer stefr...@stefreak.de: snip daap is proprietary and i think we don't want to get issues with apple because of it's licensing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio_Access_Protocol#Description). Further we had to look at itunes regularly if the

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:09:48 + Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote: Yes, I'm not certain this is the best solution at all, just thought it was worth mentioning as a possibility. Yes, thank you, it is interesting. I am not certain either because i have not looked at it enough :)

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-26 Thread Demian Martin
I think Steffan's proposal is interesting. At first I couldn't figure out what he was proposing but its clearer now. However it may be more complex and have some hidden issues that need to be well understood. Avuton's points are also very valid, there are many ways to do most of what Steffan

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
That's the point though. Why introduce this complexity when it's unnecessary? Let's state a much simpler way without complicating how things currently work. I agree that the underlying functionality is already provided in enough ways. But maybe MPD could provide a bit of help here and there

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-25 Thread Avuton Olrich
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: That's the point though. Why introduce this complexity when it's unnecessary? Let's state a much simpler way without complicating how things currently work. I agree that the underlying functionality is already

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-25 Thread Avuton Olrich
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer stefr...@stefreak.de wrote: On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:12:17 -0700 Avuton Olrich avu...@gmail.com wrote: Point is MPD can /easily/ do what you're looking for without reworking a wheel. No that's not true. You can _not_ do it easily,

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-25 Thread Metyl Methylius
Hi *, I have the same problem about mpd. I need a transparent access to my setuped instance of mpd anywhere on the network (i like to listen music from my collection from work. No decoding and encoding only transparent data transfer. Only then the quality of the record stays same as was in the

Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-25 Thread Avuton Olrich
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Metyl Methylius the.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi *, I have the same problem about mpd. I need a transparent access to my setuped instance of mpd anywhere on the network (i like to listen music from my collection from work. No decoding and encoding only

[Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection

2009-10-24 Thread Steffen 'stefreak' Neubauer
Hello ;) I had that idea yesterday for a server to server connection - if an mpd server could connect to another you could distribute your music on different computers - if you have your notebook and your pc for example and you have music on your notebook which isn't on the pc you could hear the