Re: X-Mailer header

2002-04-01 Thread David T-G
Thomas, et al -- ...and then Thomas Hurst said... % ... % is better because it saves a single character. I personally find % quoting without a space after the quote more irritating than any of the % exotic quote strings I've come across, with the possible exception of: % % C=This is quoted

Re: update encoding?

2002-04-01 Thread David T-G
Sadiq -- ...and then Sadiq Al-Lawatia said... % % Hello Everyone, Hello! % % I have been using mutt for abour 4 years now. Very happy with it I % must say. Anyways, my system adminstrator had just updated mutt to % 1.3.24i (2001-11-29) and since then, everytime I send a message either I'm

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-04-01 Thread John Buttery
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04- 1 01:03:29 -0700]: Alas! John Buttery spake thus: So, while I'm definitely interested in following the standards, there doesn't seem to be one. It's not a formal standard in any sense of the word standard; it's more like a deeply rooted

message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
hi all. just a quick question from a newbie. i usually sign all my emails but one of the lists i write to complains that it will not accept emails with attachments due to the fact that they don't want to spread msft viruses. now it is my understanding that when you sign an email you are

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Dave Smith
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 09:09:38AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all. just a quick question from a newbie. i usually sign all my emails but one of the lists i write to complains that it will not accept emails with attachments due to the fact that they don't want to spread msft viruses.

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Dave Smith said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:33:36PM +0100: You could succumb to the non-standards-following world and use the pgp_create_traditional variable. There are also other ways of signing My two cents: Succumb. Inline sigs are annoying, and when you get a

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread David T-G
Peter, et al -- ...and then Peter T. Abplanalp said... % % hi all. just a quick question from a newbie. i usually sign all my Welcome! % emails but one of the lists i write to complains that it will not accept % emails with attachments due to the fact that they don't want to spread Yeah,

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:33:36PM +0100, Dave Smith wrote: You could succumb to the non-standards-following world and use the pgp_create_traditional variable. There are also other ways of signing messages that have been used in the past, and many discussions have taken place here, and

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:37:49AM -0700: just wondering why the non-standards-following option contains the word traditional. Because usage of PGP predates the establishment of standards. helpfull and it sort of relates to mutt...what is the

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 12:42:19PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: If you're using GnuPG, see the lsign option. ok. just to see how things work, i lsigned the key that i got from the keyserver when i opened the email i am responding to. presumably your key and email ;-). now when mutt invokes

Tab to new messages, of another folder?

2002-04-01 Thread Bo Peng
Hello, everyone, Tab key is used to go to next new message within a mailfolder. Can it jump to new messages of another mailfolder like pine does? I am sorry if I missed something in the manual. Thanks. Bo Peng Department of Statistics Rice University

OT: web of trust [was Re: message signing]

2002-04-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 01:00:39PM -0500, Peter T. Abplanalp wrote: ok. just to see how things work, i lsigned the key that i got from the keyserver when i opened the email i am responding to. presumably your key and email ;-). now when mutt invokes gpg, i get the same message of good

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:51:00:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Well, every high school in north america would have you think that without a start button, a computer is completely useless and broken. I'm pretty sure that the school I went to still has those 286 Siemens machines with

Why is http address attachet to header?

2002-04-01 Thread Patrik Modesto
Hi! I use Mutt 1.3.27i (2002-01-22) from Debian testing. I create new message, then to the first empty line under header i write http://www.something.com and send this mail. This address is send as a part of email's header and body of this mail is empty. Why? Is this correct? Patrik

Re: Optimizations?

2002-04-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:15:07PM +, Simon White wrote: So, I have PuTTY for SSH, will look into the options and check that out tonight. In the PuTTY configuration window, click on Connection-SSH in the treeview; there's an Enable compression checkbox, and it's off by default. Checking

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:03:38:AM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100: Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my prompt to 'user@machine' it says that only root may run 'uname'. My response: 'exit'. Did you

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:17:05:AM -0500 David T-G wrote: Matthew, et al -- ...and then Matthew D. Fuller said... % I think he actually means 'hostname', not 'uname'; hostname, on any sane % system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set I agree so far, but

Re: Changing Groups in Mutt/NNTP

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:25:18:AM + Sean Rima wrote: Sorry should have said but yes it is the vvv patch, so thanks a million :) No problem. Pressing '?' for help every now and then will list which key is currently available with description. Rocco msg26478/pgp0.pgp

Re: Command expansion

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:18:15:AM -0500 David T-G wrote: ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % The following doesn't work, too: % % set record='`date +/tmp/%H%M%S`' Oh, I get it -- $record is only parsed once, so it will only be set once, no matter what. Exactly. % What I thought

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:49:32:AM -0600 Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:08:50AM + I heard the voice of Dave Smith, and lo! it spake thus: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:12:56:AM -0500 David T-G wrote: Eh? Who the heck set up your box? An administrator, maybe. ;-) Rocco msg26481/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

subscribing imap folders doesn't work

2002-04-01 Thread Manuel Hendel
I can't subscribe imap folders. It's no problem to unsubscribe but I can't subscribe. Does anyone has a hint for me? Manuel -- Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success

Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:07:07:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus: Rob, your X-Uptime header shows even the no. of hundreds odf seconds; I think Rocco ironically suggests that it perhaps could be more specific - meaning that he thinks it is _very_

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:14:23:PM -0500 David T-G wrote: ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % There's more than one keyserver network. So it seems. Are there just one or two, or are there a bunch, or does anyone really know? Do the servers in a given network synchronize with each

smime_keys

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hey, I finally had some time to left to set up S/MIME with Mutt 1.5.0 on Debian and FreeBSD. According to the documentation, I initially try to run 'smime_keys init'. The sample smime.rc is sourced in .muttrc, OpenSSL is installed on both systems. In fact, on FreeBSD (and this is extraordinary

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:17:46:PM -0500 David Collantes wrote: [ Mutt doesn't set X-Mailer ] This is just a kind of advertising. If you'd like you can create one with a simple my_hdr command like this one: folder . my_hdr X-Mailer: Mutt/$version How to grep the version number out of

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 04:58:17PM +0100: My mistake. Same here. Solaris doesn't like the '-s' switch for hostname. So I have to use 'hostname | cut ...' the get the short form. uname -n Works on both Linux and Solaris. msg26487/pgp0.pgp

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:51:34AM -0500, Rocco Rutte wrote: hostname, on any sane system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set it (requiring root at THAT point) when it has args. Yes. And Solaris is sane in this fashion. Solaris assumes that you're always

Re: Why is http address attachet to header?

2002-04-01 Thread Michael Elkins
Patrik Modesto wrote: I create new message, then to the first empty line under header i write http://www.something.com and send this mail. This address is send as a part of email's header and body of this mail is empty. Why? Is this correct? Are you using 'set edit_headers' ? If so, you

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
Something isn't configured properly in your GnuPG. It sounds like it doesn't trust YOUR key. entirely possible but i think everything is set up correctly. here is what i get when i run a check on my key: pub 1024D/7D224574 created: 2002-01-09 expires: never trust: -/u sub

Re: Command expansion

2002-04-01 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-27 16:35:14 +0100]: Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:18:15:AM -0500 David T-G wrote: ...and then Rocco Rutte said... I try it onces more. What I thought of is functionality which would lead up this: *all* variables of type 'path' are handled

Re: Tab to new messages, of another folder?

2002-04-01 Thread David T-G
Bo -- Please don't simply reply to any random message and start a new thread. Start a new thread with a fresh message instead! ...and then Bo Peng said... % % Hello, everyone, Hi! % % Tab key is used to go to next new message within a mailfolder. Can it jump % to new messages of another

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 11:25:20PM +0100: ... but it doesn't help at all if people don't submit their key because of paranoia. What's most annoying are the folks who not only don't submit their key, but they also don't put it on their web page, or they

Re: Command expansion

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:13:16:PM -0500 David T-G wrote: Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... By the way, I find myself wondering how you tell mutt to not quote blank lines as you have here. Or do you have an editor startup command that changes all '^ $' to '' for you?

Re: Command expansion

2002-04-01 Thread David T-G
Rocco -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hello! % % On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:13:16:PM -0500 David T-G wrote: % Rocco, et al -- % ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % By the way, I find myself wondering how you tell mutt to not quote blank % lines as you have here. Or do you

Re: Command expansion

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 09:38:46:PM +0200 Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-27 16:35:14 +0100]: [...] So, as I said, a general solution. Sounds nice, at least to me. But $signature is of type path. You can use a pipe there right now, but the behaviour

Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Will Yardley
Rocco Rutte wrote: At least it was the smiley after your question which confused me. As I read you use a linux from scratch. Are you sure it looks professional advertising uptimes of 1 or 2 hours? ;-) he has to reboot every 3 hours to put on a kewl new linux kernel. -- Will Yardley

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:07:58:PM -0500 ShRen McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 11:25:20PM +0100: ... but it doesn't help at all if people don't submit their key because of paranoia. What's most annoying are the folks who not only don't

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:02:23PM +0200: Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:07:58:PM -0500 ShRen McMahon wrote: ^ Is that a stylistic choice, or is your config broken? msg26501/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 12:54:17:PM -0800 Will Yardley wrote: Rocco Rutte wrote: At least it was the smiley after your question which confused me. As I read you use a linux from scratch. Are you sure it looks professional advertising uptimes of 1 or 2 hours? ;-) he has to

Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:20:32PM +0200: It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of them

[OT] Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.04.01, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:29:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:02:23PM +0200: Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:07:58:PM -0500 ShRen McMahon wrote: ^ Is that a stylistic

Re: Irony getting in the way

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:26:05:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote: It'd be easier to just make /proc/uptime writable... Yeah, but you would have to ... (Yes, I'm aware that requires a code change, not just chmod. Every time I say this I get some idiot pointing this out to me, like I didn't

Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
--WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: he has to reboot every 3 hours to put on a kewl new linux kernel. =20 It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys

Re: Irony getting in the way

2002-04-01 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:08:37:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Didn't that happen on this mailing list? If not, I must be

Re: Tab to new messages, of another folder?

2002-04-01 Thread Bo Peng
Please don't simply reply to any random message and start a new thread. Start a new thread with a fresh message instead! I realized my mistake after I sent my email. Sorry. % Tab key is used to go to next new message within a mailfolder. Can it jump % to new messages of another mailfolder