Exceptions to ~p based on From:?

est of them that are easily repeatable. How do others approach this problem? Does anyone else think that mutt should have a better solution, like a way to exclude messages from ~p based on their From: field? If so what would that llok like, and how should it interact with lists and subscribedlists, if at all? Thanks. --jh...@mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: [Mutt] Exceptions to ~p based on From:?

ssage. Adding headers seems fine, but modifying the existing ones seems like a line that shouldn't be crossed. In a world where we have DKIM, it seems an especially bad idea, although I don't know if DKIM tends to include the To: header in its crypto hashes). --jh...@mit.edu John Hawki

Re: Mutt -> Compose -> Some kind of alert?

ndreds or thousands of recipients... --jh...@mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: format=flowed

aph. Like this. I'm not particular proud of this, and it's incompatible with quoting, so I put hard line breaks when I quote text, and it's somewhat annoying to compose (I use emacs' M-x visual-line-mode to do so), but it certainly wraps properly in most clients. --jh...@mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Going GUI...er

flowed, but there seem to be technical difficulties making that work reliably, so it's an OK substitute. > Insisting that the world switch from HTML to plaintext for e-mail is > just tilting at a windmill. I think this view is correct. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Toggling between two values of a string variable?

I guess it's collateral, but I was surprised that I couldn't get :toggle to work with a $my_foo variable. I guess it would not really have helped me make progress, but seemed like it could be a building block in some more complex scheme. Thanks for any thoughts. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: is it possible to set bcc

Setting Bcc and using record have different functions, and although there is a lot of overlap, the former tells you something about the mail delivery infrastructure. I use my_hdr Bcc: jh...@alum.mit.edu to set bcc unconditionally, without a hook. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson Remco

Re: mutt and gmail

tatus#hl=en&v=issue&sid=1&iid=a8b67908fadee664c68c240ff9f529ab Google's alleged "incident report" http://www.google.com/appsstatus/ir/4et50yp2ckm8otv.pdf (linked from the dashboard). You can also monitor Google's appstatus dashboard via RSS at https://www

Re: Deleting Attachments from Index View

The IMAP FETCH command allegedly supports retrieving individual sections of a message, including the headers and parsed sections of the body based on MIME parts. I have no idea what the support for this feature is like. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Using UTC time in Date header

hought it was worth talking about the problem, perhaps as a way to inform...I don't know what, perhaps future development, but probably not. Thanks for listening. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Using UTC time in Date header

clients will convert everything to local time. To put it different, it's not so much that I don't want to the timezone math (although I don't really), it's that I am confident that the people I deal with do not. I'm sure your experience may be different, but those ar

Re: How to execute command (as opposed to function) from the command prompt

Chris Green wrote on Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 13:31:49 EDT in : > How do you execute a *command* from the mutt command prompt? > > So, for example, having hit : to get to the command prompt how can I > do to show/hide the sidebar? :exec sidebar-toggle-visible -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: question/suggestion

forwarding is. Indeed, I sometimes wonder if we'd be better off without the leading "[", but I haven't brought myself to try to save that single character. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 10:24 PM ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote: > 12021/06/39 09:27.23 ನಲ

Re: question/suggestion

ly a one-time cost and sometimes it's easy to argue it's worth it for the greater good, but that's a tough argument to make here. But of course you're free to set your own configuration. Or we could include a sample commented line in the muttrc labelled "# Make forwarding look like Outlook's" or whatever. But I think a much more compelling case is required to change the default. Of course, others may disagree. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: how to add domain name to email address (that is different from hostname)

hell.org>: > Have you tried setting hostname=yahoo.com in your .muttrc? I haven't > tried it, but it seems like that would work. Maybe I'm misinterpretting the original request, but I don't think that's what is desired. But maybe so (see above). -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: question/suggestion

he options, current or extent, proposed or in use, are confusing to anyone at all. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Search program that can find an E-Mail with an exact Date: match

rare requirement, although of course many people never do it. It is also, however, out of scope for mutt — mutt isn't a tool for searching multiple mailboxes. Perhaps there's a better mailing list for this sort of question? -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson > Chris Green

Re: muttrc file for aol.com email?

please share some more information so we can figure out how to address it and how concerned to be? Is there supporting information? Is it a rumor? If rumor, what's the provenance? Heard from a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend? From a reliable source you can explain, etc? Thank you. -- jh...@alum.m

Re: Is linewrap dead?

naged to get it to work right. And yes, I toggle M-x visual-line-mode in Emacs while composing, sometimes multiple times, which simulates how the email may be read. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson Tavis Ormandy wrote on Sun, 28 Aug 2022 at 20:28:29 EDT in : > Hello, long time mutt u

Re: Is linewrap dead?

bviously a non-starter when the goal is to interoperate with today's technology as much as possible. > Maybe text/plain format=flowed is a solution. It's displayed correctly by Maybe. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson > software that assumes format=fixed (on a screen that&

Re: Is linewrap dead?

so fortunate. As for standards-compliance, that's a red herring. Long lines are not going to trip up any modern client, they're just not. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Is linewrap dead?

ide a .png on". It could certainly be worse (and it often is), but it's not great. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Is linewrap dead?

so at your own peril, and the rest of us > should not be expected to accommodate you. I don't really think we're flouting the standards. I suppose I should send some 2,000-character paragraph emails as tests to see what happens, but I very much doubt there will be problems as a result. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Is linewrap dead?

what? I am confused what we are discussing. > I could live with that if it were labelled, with a new MIME subtype, but I > agree that a new subtype probably And even more so here. John Hawkinson wrote on Wed, 31 Aug 2022 at 16:38:11 EDT in : > I suppose I should send some 2,000-ch

Re: Is linewrap dead?

r MTAs and MUAs and other mail software. That, of course, speaks to the nuanced and pragmatic analysis. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Identifying messages with no To: or CC: headers?

a better way to do that. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Two doubts about POP3 and IMAP

with the results. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson meine wrote on Sun, 11 Sep 2022 at 15:16:11 EDT in : > > Why isn't there a default binding for the "imap-fetch-mail" function, > > just like 'G' for POP3? I know I can assign it, but was curious > &g

Re: Is linewrap dead? Now: Self hosted SMTP

st people would choose. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: mark as read

ag on the tagged messages. And similarly clear-flag ('W') for the opposite situation. (I don't understand Patrick's reply) -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson > Is there any command that will work with tagged messages to > mark them as read irrespective of their current status or > thread status?

Re: Forward with attachments

ll, I noticed it was taking a little more time to actually send than normal, and then I was horrified to discover it. I'm not sure whether this suggests this is a default in need of attention or clever heuristics (not that mutt is big on this) or what... -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkin

Re: Re: Forward with attachments

mutt to send those kinds of messages, so I'm not sure I would personally find a mutt feature to do this all that helpful. But that's just me.) -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Is there any way to view text/html inline *only if* we think text/plain is not right?

27;j', 'j', RET assuming that it's a normal multipart/alternative with two parts so two down-arrows ('j') get you to the 2nd part. Or alternatively, you could create a macro to do the same, although I'm not sure it's worth the bother? -- jh...@alum.mit.e

Re: Is there any way to view text/html inline *only if* we think text/plain is not right?

s, you can search for html with /html instead of hitting . Honestly I'm not sure this happens enough to be worth automating into a macro, teaching your brain to hit 'jj' is pretty easy and arguably a better and more flexible and adaptive solution. But up to you! -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson

Re: Handing on attempt to send

folder and there's value in setting it to an IMAP folder. -- jh...@alum.mit.edu John Hawkinson