RE: mail operators list

2007-11-01 Thread michael.dillon
The idea of dividing into specialties seems to upset a few people. I'm not sure if that's because they're afraid they'll miss some discussion, or if it's because they're afraid somebody will miss them discussing something. If the former, specialty lists shouldn't cause them any problems

RE: mail operators list

2007-11-01 Thread michael.dillon
I wonder whether a better solution might be to create a second NANOG list for all the non-core operational issues from mail to P2p to botnets. People who are only interested in the traditional NANOG core, can stay away. People who are interested in broader operational issues can join the

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-31 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Joe Abley wrote: Mail seems to be one of those topics which is of interest to many nanog subscribers, but simultaneously annoying to many (presumably different) nanog subscribers. Given that observation, creating a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for the discussion of e-mail

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Andy Davidson
of a mail-operators list ( agenda time for a mailops bof, since a lot of networks are small enough to mean that netops and sysops are often the same guys) if it's deemed to be offtopic on nanog-l.

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 13:09 -0400, Joe Abley wrote: On 30-Oct-2007, at 12:55, Andy Davidson wrote: I would support the creation of a mail-operators list ( agenda time for a mailops bof, since a lot of networks are small enough to mean that netops and sysops are often the same guys

RE: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-nanog- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Popovitch Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:27 AM To: nanog-futures Subject: Re: mail operators list On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 13:09 -0400, Joe Abley wrote: On 30-Oct-2007, at 12:55

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Daniel Senie
. I would support the creation of a mail-operators list ( agenda time for a mailops bof, since a lot of networks are small enough to mean that netops and sysops are often the same guys) if it's deemed to be offtopic on nanog-l. I guess my preference would be for NANOG as an organization

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 10/30/07, Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30-Oct-2007, at 12:55, Andy Davidson wrote: I would support the creation of a mail-operators list ( agenda time for a mailops bof, since a lot of networks are small enough to mean that netops and sysops are often the same guys) if it's

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 10/30/07, William B. Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/30/07, Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/30/07, Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30-Oct-2007, at 12:55, Andy Davidson wrote: I'm trying to understand your point here - you believe that it will be a more

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Sean Figgins
Martin Hannigan wrote: What would work is for people to post on topic so that the list is interesting and relevant. Since what people want to talk about is mostly off-topic for the nanog@ list, does this mean that NANOG itself is no longer interested in being the venue for network operators

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Randy Bush
Mail seems to be one of those topics which is of interest to many nanog subscribers, but simultaneously annoying to many (presumably different) nanog subscribers. what large subject does not fall in this category? this is just life when you have a large community. randy

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Randy Bush
The NANOG mailing list has never been in good order. The NANOG meetings have always had complaints. The NANOG community is composed of disparate parties with disparate interests, each convinced that their interests are the only ones of operation relevance. it would all be so much simpler