Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread Nick
The thing about MOTs is they are built to a price and have some quirks, e.g. one end of the secondary is connected to the core/ground. If cascading MOTs, generally you would disconnect the wire from the core and daisy-chain the secondaries but that then means that there is suddenly 2000V (or a

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread Jonathan Peakall
I have done a 2X2 series/parallel and a 4 in series. I used mineral oil. There are better oils but I could get 5 gallon buckets of mineral oil from a local feed store. You also usually need to add some current limiting. A small Tesla coil won't hurt anything. :-0 Jonathan On 5/13/2016 3:28

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread gregebert
> > > Plus, series/parallel 'em under oil for a VERY nasty HV power supply. > [...] Curious how many you've cascaded, and what kind of oil you use. I've been tempted to build a Tesla coil for many years, but we live too close to an airport so I'm concerned about the RFI impact on comm &

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread Jonathan Peakall
Ya beat me to it. Plus, series/parallel 'em under oil for a VERY nasty HV power supply. I've run Tesla coils on them and other silly things. But they are QUITE lethal. I grab every big older MOT i see. The new ones, meh. Jonathan A MOT actually IS currently limited using the same stray flux

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread NeonJohn
On 05/13/2016 01:57 PM, gregebert wrote: > NEVER use a microwave oven transformer; they are deadly because there is no > current-limiting, and their voltage is probably too low anyways. A MOT actually IS currently limited using the same stray flux technology as neon transformers. If you look

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread gregebert
Transformers specifically designed for neon signs are perfect because they are intentionally current-limited, and the exact voltage isn't critical. I've lit all sorts of neon tubes with my 5kV sign transformer. I've had mine for 40+ years and never got shocked (only slight tingle). I don't

[neonixie-l] Re: My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-13 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
You are right on the level shifters -- I didn't pick up on the VCC in an earlier post. However, regarding the schematic -- every designer has his/her own purposes in drawing a schematic. If I am drawing a schematic for my own use, I will do it differently than when I am drawing one for my

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: OT: US Customs Service - Delays

2016-05-13 Thread Jeff Walton
Shipping is indeed sporadic. I just received a shipment of tubes from Russia that took 2 ½ weeks from shipment to arrival at my door. The package had a lot of stamps on it (about 20). I was expecting a much longer wait. These entered through New York customs direct to Minneapolis.

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Signs

2016-05-13 Thread Mike Harrison
On Fri, 13 May 2016 09:02:52 +1000, you wrote: >Sorry if this is the wrong group. I have been offered a large quantity of >vintage neon tubes from old signs, "burgers", "restaurant" "cafe", that >sort of thing, together with straight & curved lines. How do I find out the >value? I can test them.

[neonixie-l] Re: My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?

2016-05-13 Thread Niek
"It's not even a schematic error." I disagree: - you want your schematic to be consistent, in this case it's clearly not as most parts display their ground/power pins connected, except the MAX232A. - you want it to be unambiguous: obviously, it's not. - if you work with multiple voltage levels

[neonixie-l] Re: OT: US Customs Service - Delays

2016-05-13 Thread A.J. Franzman
On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 11:11:59 PM UTC-7, jf...@my-deja.com wrote: > > They finally arrived after 12 weeks. Based on the tracking information, > it took about 11 weeks to get to New Jersey, and another week for the USPS > to get it to California. The package was marked "Air Mail" and

[neonixie-l] Re: OT: US Customs Service - Delays

2016-05-13 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 12:10:00 PM UTC-7, jf...@my-deja.com wrote: > > I am not sure who is to blame, but after almost two months, I am still > waiting for some 13-pin dekatron sockets being sent from Russia. > They finally arrived after 12 weeks. Based on the tracking information,