Re: [netmod] data tree

> On 09 Sep 2015, at 08:28, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Andy argued that the proposed new definition of data tree looks like it >> is a big tree containing everything, so here is another try, >> improvements are welcome: >>

Re: [netmod] data tree

Hi, Andy argued that the proposed new definition of data tree looks like it is a big tree containing everything, so here is another try, improvements are welcome: o data tree: An instantiated tree of any data modeled with YANG, i.e., one of: configuration, state data, combined configuration

[netmod] minutes of the NETMOD 2015-09-07 virtual interim meeting

Hi, attached are the minutes of the 2015-09-07 virtual interim meeting. Please let me know if something needs fixing. You can find all the virtual interim meeting minutes next to the YANG 1.1 issue list in the NETMOD WG subversion repository:

Re: [netmod] data tree

Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi, > > Andy argued that the proposed new definition of data tree looks like it > is a big tree containing everything, so here is another try, > improvements are welcome: > > o data tree: An instantiated tree of any data modeled with YANG, i.e., > one

Re: [netmod] WebEx meeting invitation: NETMOD Interm meeting on OpenConfig: tomorrow meeting

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 10:16:06PM +0200, Benoit Claise wrote: > 2. The requirements. > If there are still clarifications needed around the requirements in > draft-openconfig-netmod-opstate-01 section 4, or around the requirement > that the YANG models need some sort of hierarchy >

Re: [netmod] Motivations for Structuring Models

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Benoit Claise wrote: > Andy, > > [taking on excerpt, out of context, to make a point] > > 1) As a consumer of YANG models, how do I identify the set of models that >> provide a set of functionality? How do YANG model writers ensure that their >>

Re: [netmod] minutes of the NETMOD 2015-08-31 virtual interim meeting

On 04/09/2015 18:54, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 09:29:53AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: Hi, Is there a WEB page that lists all the upcoming virtual meetings? This would really help people remember without scanning lots of ietf-announce email. The official list of

Re: [netmod] Tomorrow's Interim Meeting Details

Since the meeting is only an hour, I think it is unrealistic to think we are going to cover both Ops-state and model structure tomorrow. Thanks, Acee From: netmod > on behalf of Kent Watsen >

[netmod] Tomorrow's Interim Meeting Details

I wanted to set things up for the interim meeting tomorrow. To frame the meeting, we want to achieve two main goals: 1) close on requirements around a requirement to define a structure for IETF models and the requirements around ops state/models 2)

Re: [netmod] Tomorrow's Interim Meeting Details

Hi, This email and the one from Benoit do not mention any sort of problem scope. IMO it would be useful to know if the scope includes all YANG modules, only IETF YANG modules, or perhaps only IETF routing modules. As the scope gets wider, the probability that "1 size fits all" goes way down.

Re: [netmod] WebEx meeting invitation: NETMOD Interm meeting on OpenConfig: tomorrow meeting

Juergen, It sounds like you are agreeing with the requirements but not the solution. I think this is a valuable distinction, i.e., that it's possible to agree with one but not the other. I'd also like to point out that the first part of the discussion is limited to requirements only so we

Re: [netmod] Y26 again, sorry

> On 09 Sep 2015, at 17:25, Robert Wilton wrote: > > Hi Andy, > > On 07/09/2015 18:41, Andy Bierman wrote: >> >> Your example shows the YANG conformance problems fairly well. >> Clearly the IETF (and others) want to use advanced design patterns >> in which conformance to

Re: [netmod] Y26 again, sorry

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 09 Sep 2015, at 17:25, Robert Wilton wrote: > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > On 07/09/2015 18:41, Andy Bierman wrote: > >> > >> Your example shows the YANG conformance problems fairly well. > >> Clearly

Re: [netmod] WebEx meeting invitation: NETMOD Interm meeting on OpenConfig: tomorrow meeting

Dear all, There is a lot of passionate debates around YANG these days, which shows how important YANG became. After the last IETF meeting, the openconfig group requested a call with me. During that call, these operators re-explained their problem to me. Let me decompose this into three

Re: [netmod] NETMOD WG YANG 1.1 virtual interim meetings

[sorry for the delay. August vacation] See in-line. On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:22:41AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: Lets please not mix YANG 1.1 work with other discussions at this point in

Re: [netmod] WebEx meeting invitation: NETMOD Interm meeting on OpenConfig: tomorrow meeting

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Benoit Claise wrote: > Dear all, > > There is a lot of passionate debates around YANG these days, which shows > how important YANG became. > > After the last IETF meeting, the openconfig group requested a call with me. > During that call, these

Re: [netmod] Motivations for Structuring Models

Andy, [taking on excerpt, out of context, to make a point] 1) As a consumer of YANG models, how do I identify the set of models that provide a set of functionality? How do YANG model writers ensure that their models are as easy to deal with as possible by having consistent